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Mama Mia
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posted October 31, 2005 10:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mama Mia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My ex-Aqua pulled something this weekend just to talk to me. He has not said anything to me since we split 9 months ago. We split bc of him it was all his fault this is what he claimed he wanted and then all of a sudden he was acting like I wanted this. We see each other in the gym once a week and lately he has dine everything under the sun to get my attention in the gyn but I ignored him almost to toture. But he wanted my attention and he got it this time. :-)

I went into this dept store where my aunt works and he also moonlights as the security guard. We saw each other but I totally ignored his as I do never made a ounce of eye contact towards his way. I felt him though looking at me and grinning trying to figure things out.

So as I am leaving just finish paying for my things I hear over the intercom my name being paged and I look around cause who could be paging me I am by myself. I knew that it was him but why would he page me bc he is right over there. BUT when I turned around he was gone. So what he did was page me and ran out the door as I was approaching the service desk. As I approached the service desk the phone ast the desk was ringing I knew that it was him calling on that phone but no one at the desk answered it. He called twice on that phone too.

I stood there for about a minute no one showed up I thought he was prolly gone come from the back or something. So I say skip it I start heading to my car. I this point I am angry bc I feel like I am a grown as women don't play me. SO I call him on my cell phone which he did not tink I was going to do. And when he answered the first thing I said was UH DON"T PLAY WITH ME he was like huhn I said it again. He ws like I just wanted to say hi. Mind you this was his way I guess of breaking the ice so that we speak to each other in the gym when we see each other. TO be honest I am not sure if he was playing his games or was he really being sincere about wanting to say hi to me and was just to scared and insecure to do it in the mature way which would have been to just say hi in my face..

Hey whatever I am not gone play games with his @$$ if I suspect that he is playing a game I will never speak to him ever again.

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posted October 31, 2005 10:32 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm going to make a wild generalization here (back, back generalization police!), but it seems like fixed signs/fixed influenced peeps can have very real issues with power - more to the point, making sure that they have power in any interaction in any relationship.

At first blush, this feels like he's flashing those colors.

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Peri
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posted October 31, 2005 10:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aqua or not, men or women, we all play power games sometimes. It is only when we muster up courage to face our insecurities that we are able to stop playing games.

quote:
Men become old, but they never become good. - Oscar Wilde

I just love this quote

edited* I think you should try as much as you can and move on MM, there is more strength in letting go than holding on. Every time you are trying to let go it hurts like hell but eventually someone better comes along

Love and strength to you!

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Man needs difficulties; they are necessary for health.
Carl G. Jung

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Mama Mia
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posted October 31, 2005 10:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mama Mia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well he is not going to have any power over me in any type of way that is what the problem was in the beginning. I was comfortable and ok with not speaking or him not speaking to me. And like I said if I find out for sure that he is playing a game I will never speak to him inside that gym nor outside that gym. He can throw himself in front of my car and I will keep it moving.

Proxime: I did blush though after it was all said and done. LOL!!!

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posted October 31, 2005 11:01 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Prox - I keep saying that yet people don't believe me. The very nature of a fixed sign indicates a need to control - contrtol themselves, their environent, other people. And if they can't get that control directly, they get manipulative. That's when they start playing power games.

I've said this here before - I'm saying it again: Taurus will play emotional power games to get you do what they want (and Taurus also often likes to take your stuff to control you too - god, that drives me crazy. This is how ALL my friendships with Taureans have ended). Leo plays ego games and "I can top that" games to make you feel small and powerless, and thus more easily controlled (and my brother, a Leo-Aries-Scorpio, is a black belt in that). Scorpio of course plays psychological games to make you feel insecure and confused, so you're more easily manipulated and controlled. And last, but certainly not least AQUA plays HEAD GAMES - Aqua probably is the worst, because Aqua figures out your weaknesses on a rational, detached level, adn then exploits it. Aqua can belittle your intelligence, manipulate your emotions, prey of your phobias, or attack your ego, hell I once even had an Aqua take my stuff and hold it hostage, just like Taurus would do - and still be able to come across as disinterested and removed, which is part fo the Aqua game. So while you're all in a frazzle over something some Aqua did, they seem completely untouched or unmoved, given them the appearence of being in control.

SO I don't have a problem with that kind of generalization - although I apply it specifically to the signs and not to the natives. Signs are what they are, bad and good, but people have a choice over their behavior. So if you are at a lost to why a fixed type is playing games, just know it's because they've chosen to give into that side of their sign, for whatever reason.

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posted October 31, 2005 03:21 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is my insight. Aquas have feelings of inadequacy, which is part of the reason why they are so aloof. They will open up and become extreme extroverts in a large group of people because they feel that no one can judge them in that situation- everyone is just a face; thats how they see everyone themselves. However, faced in a one-on-one situation, they feel like they are being probed- thats when their insecurities rise. They either teleport somewhere else if they are neutral with you, or they control and belittle you to keep you from probing them, unless you are on established, good terms with them i.e. you are a good friend of theirs. Aquas hate being judged because they feel you should know they are not going to change just because you say so. Their feelings of inadequacy are also why they gravitate towards someone who treats them like $h!+ - they need to know why they're not good enough and prove that they are- but they never say this.

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Mama Mia
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posted October 31, 2005 03:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mama Mia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ooooohhhhhh Oddball that is a great answer and so,so true!!!!

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posted October 31, 2005 04:35 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yees, Oddball, that was the case with my stbx-husband. He could NEVER take a compliment, instead he looked for reasons to confirm his lack of belief in himself.

Aquas are such odd people, mega-talented, but have no real confidence whatsoever. It's perplexing, but it's their problem. Shame, as in their good moments they are excellent fun.

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sandra_b_5
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posted October 31, 2005 07:54 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oddball, what do you mean by ''They teleport somewhere else if they are neutral with you''''. (English isnt my mother tongue) Do you mean they blank you when they are neutral to you (and one on one)?

I hate to generalize about star signs, but it really is striking how many aqua men seem to play these head games - judging by the number of desperate posts in this forum and from experience (sob!)

Classic example, both my best female and my best male friend are aquas. The female is very aloof when interested in a man, but doesnt play these perverse head games as my male aqua friend.

As friend he's what anyone would wish for, I love him to bits, but cant believe how he acts when he's interested in someone. Insecure beyond belief even though everyone thinks he's brilliant, charming, Mr. Wonderful.

Women who have treated him like dirt he's pining after for months/years. However, if she's genuinly interested in him he's playing these stupid games.

For instance latest example, he's started taking me along to this pub on Friday evenings where a young woman helps out. She clearly likes him, he clearly likes her (which unfortunately isnt as obvious to the girl as the friend at his side...) What does he do? After having gone to this pub for weeks alone on Friday evenings /or with male collegues, becoming friendly with this girl in the process, he then starts taking me along.He pretends he and I are a couple and pulls this whole story on her about him needing her advice about how he should ask me to marry him. Next time we are there, there's a guy she seems to be very friendly with, he kisses her on the cheek. My friend freezes, wants us to leave immediately, 'see I told you she really isnt intersted in me, we are never coming back to this place again'.......
I think the fixed sign aspect also plays a negative part in them not listening to anybody when they are 'fixed' on an opinion. I was talking my head off trying to convey this girl's point of view. What did he expect, he was pretending to be engaged to get married, what aspect of the whole mix was acting to attract????

So Mama Mia, the games probably will never stop, because I'm convinced they are convinced they are not playing any games, so what is there to be stopped?

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posted October 31, 2005 08:09 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What I mean is that if you start talking with them one on one and they don't really like you or dislike you, they'll just sorta go "yea...um...yea...(sigh)...sure......." and look down, shuffling their feet, twiddling their thumbs. They're really not paying attention, they've zoned out.

Btw, How do you find that Aqua suns differ from Aqua moons? My moon is in Aqua and most of the time I feel like more of an Aqua than a Sag sun. My rising sign is in cancer, so that might have an effect on bringing this out more...

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sandra_b_5
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posted November 01, 2005 05:34 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
God they really are confusing. So basically when they couldnt care less, in a way, they are displaying signs that other people might show when they are nervous and like or dislike you (but definitely arent indiffernet to you) e.g. little eye contact, closed body language (not facing you, maybe even crossed arms, looking down etc.)????

Well I definitely know where I stand then.

Mama Mia, don't let him bother you that much. If he goes through so much trouble, just to get your attention, you really got under his skin. Is that such an awful thing? If you really want to get him out of your mind, the best thing is to have no contact at all.Maybe a different fitness club, so you dont have to see him? Not seeing the person at all, does help. Something which unfortunately not an option in my case because we work together

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Mama Mia
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posted November 01, 2005 09:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mama Mia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sandra: Uh he cannot bother me I am totally aware of his stuff. What bothered me was that he would page me and run out the door like a 3rd grader or something. He has done numerous things in the last few months to get my attention anywhere from whispering about me to running on the floor while I am workig out. Bottom line is he is so crazy about me he does not know what to do. He hates that he still has these intense feelings for me. 1. He ended it and did think that it would turn out this way, he is still trying to figure out why does he stil have feelings for me and it has been over for us 9 almost 10 months now.

This is true to go out of the way as he has done to get my attention means something. He is the type of person that has a indirect way of talking but I get it as maybe other ppl don't. He owes me an apology for past behavior and he knows it,plus he is going to have to confess to me how he is feeling that is what all this is about it is just a matter of time b4 he does that.

Meanwhile I am going to do what I have been doing enjoying my life and the new peace of mind that I have dealing with my kids and being my happy self. I am going to continue to go to that gym I take a class their that I happen to enjoy so much and I have a gret relationship with the instructor and him and his childish way and the games he is playing will not run me away. It is going to go either way. His way or my way and I do nto play lil childish games he will be playing em by himself. Plus Istart school in January and I won't be able to go to the gym at night anyway.

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posted November 01, 2005 05:22 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Given the circumstances I'd also dig in my heals! Didnt realize he had ended it.

One question, do any of his planets fall in your 8th house or vice versa?

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Mama Mia
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posted November 01, 2005 05:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mama Mia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not quite sure, But he has Venus in the 8th house..

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