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LILYGIRL
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posted November 03, 2005 12:51 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
MARS IN AQUA!!!

Anyone here have this and if so, how do you fight with a loved one? How does it affect your passion via romance?

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Gemini Nymph
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posted November 03, 2005 02:32 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mars at 18 Aqua, 6th house, conj NN and Vertex, part of air grand trine.

I avoid fighting with an intimate partner all together. But if I do, it's ugly. I tend to be an intellectual bully and hyper-rationalize everything. I have a very hard time backing down once I'm in "battle modee" and I do not like to say I was wrong.

I can be very passionate, but I can turn it off in a split second and become very detached. Overall, I'm not very romantic or physically affectionate. I prefer demonstrating loyalty, understanding, honesty and mutual respect over romantic gestures.

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nove731
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posted November 03, 2005 08:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nove731     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't fight with people.

I either ignore them, or they get my full attention.

If I'm not getting along with someone, I make myself scarce, so they don't get the opportunity to speak to me.

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shop22much
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posted November 03, 2005 11:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shop22much     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i grew up with someone with a mars in aqua all i can say is = B * T C H....but then again she was a scorpio

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alanabelle86
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posted November 04, 2005 08:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for alanabelle86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
HEY!


i'm a Scorpio with Mars in Aqua. I can be a huge ***** one minute and the sweetest girl you've ever met the next.

When I fight with a loved one, I tend to go into over-explaining and tearing the wrongdoing apart and throwing it back at them another way over and OVER again. I dont lose my temper because there's no way I could control myself if I let my temper go. I always detach myself emotionally/physically when i feel my patience start to wear when i'm in an argument. because i dont like to explode. it even scares ME.


im very head-trippy,guilt tripping, mind-gamey though.

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Libra Rising, Scorpio Sun, Leo Moon

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Sun_Scorpion
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posted November 04, 2005 09:01 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Me too! In 4th. GN and Alana, totally agree!!!
And Shop22much???!! Im a Scorp w/ an Aqua Mars and I ain't a B***!!!

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taurean_scorpion
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posted November 04, 2005 11:44 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i don't want to risk saying anything irrational or regret it so i wait until we all calm down and say the things i wanted to afterwards. but if i truly hate the person, then i'll ignore them; no need to use my energy there.

mars in aqua in 10th house here.

sun in taurus in 12th, moon in scorpio in 6th, mercury in taurus in 12th, venus in gemini in 12th, jupiter taurus in 12th, asc. in cancer.

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LoDriscoe86
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posted November 04, 2005 04:01 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
cool topic

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sanfranciscojim1
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posted November 04, 2005 05:14 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have mars in scorpio and my ex has mars in aquarius, exactly square to mine. it's a very difficult relationship...no room for jealousy whatsoever!!! aquarius seems to like to play to the free love theme and sees it as perfectly normal..which it probably is.....

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sanfranciscojim1
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posted November 04, 2005 05:25 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LILY.....to answer your question.....i think mars in aquarius may like to express anger in a very unemotional (non-verbal) way??...like maybe forget to come home.....??? maybe an emotional confrontation just seems too.....emotional.....after all, we are apes with BIG brains, ain't we?? ring any bells....??

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alanabelle86
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posted November 04, 2005 08:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for alanabelle86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My mars is in the 4th house too Sun_Scorpion

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Sun_Scorpion
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posted November 04, 2005 08:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Firecracker!!

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alanabelle86
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posted November 04, 2005 08:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for alanabelle86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
my boyfriend's mars is in scorpio. boy do we have some F I G H T S. wow, esp. with my first house Pluto, holy crap. We had one today actually. Thank god for my Aqua Mars. Saves me from doing something I really shouldn't. If I had a Scorpio Mars, I'd be in big trouble.

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LILYGIRL
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posted November 05, 2005 09:46 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks guys..SFranJ. that was very funny---yeah yeah...I forgot to come home for dinner when I knew you were making a 5 course meal for my birthday..yeah yeah..


LOL

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astro junkie
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posted November 07, 2005 12:40 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome LoDriscoe86

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SavageScorpio
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posted November 28, 2005 02:07 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have mars in Aquarius and nothing really ****** me off..I dunno why, I don't like wasting my energy. It's true that if I'm mad or hurt or anything I just completely detach, although naturally I'm kind of detatched..where some people would stick around and fight in some situations I'd just assume move on rather than be with someone who'd push me to that point, etc. Then again I have moon in Leo so I can throw a temper tantrum...usually in defence of my freedom..(mars in aquarius..can't stand to be held down). I only get ****** if someone goes out of their way to interfere with my life, or try 2 control me, but I think people care too much about trivial things, and shouldn't waste their energy being mad..besides to me it's kind of a sign of weakness- to let something trivial consume you.

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Jools
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posted November 28, 2005 05:43 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SavageScorpio, I have Leo Moon and Aquarius Mars Placements too. The oppposition's a bit of a confuzzler, eh?

When it comes to fighting with loved ones, I would say it's coming more from the Leo Moon (loud voices, dramatics, hysterics etc).

When it comes to fighting non-loved ones, I would say it's a battle of wits. Dissecting the arguments, semantics, logic, etc. Emotion is there, but it's poured into mental processes rather than reaction.

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Gemini Nymph
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posted November 28, 2005 09:30 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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i think mars in aquarius may like to express anger in a very unemotional (non-verbal) way??...like maybe forget to come home.....??? maybe an emotional confrontation just seems too.....emotional.....after all, we are apes with BIG brains, ain't we?? ring any bells....??

Remember that Aqua is a fixed sign and thus is very much in keeping things a certain way. Aqua Mars isn't really passive-aggressive, per se, but it is rather controlling. It's also an air sign, so it's overly cerebral for a Mars placement. ANd being ruled by Uranus doesn't make things simple either.

Thus, if an Aqua-martian gets mad they tend to (one, two or all of the following):

1) Take the air route: intellectualize or rationalize. Because Aqua Mars is a peregrine (wandering - lacks essential dignity) placement, when an Aqua-Martian's emotions get heated and they start intellectuallizing them, they tend to "wander" with it. That means overkill, or repeating themselves ad nauseum, or keep missing/going off the point. Sometimes this is pretty funny (just don't say that to a Aqua-Martain when they're really mad!). This doesn't mean they aren't feeling real anger - they do, definitely. It's actually a *very* testy Mars placement, because it's a fixed sign. It's just Aqua hates being controlled by emotions, and so this is a defense mechanism an Aqua-Martian resorts to to keep his or her anger from controlling them (and it usually backfires, which is also pretty funny too).

2) Take the Uranian route: cease all cooperation and assert one's independence. This is when they don't come home. Or don't call. Or go out with their friends instead of keeping a date. Or just ignore you. Again, it's not passive-agressive. In the mind of the Aqua-Martian, the message is loud and clear: I'm my own person and you don't control me. They believe that if they don't want do something (like talk to you), that social conventions (like common decency, politeness, etc) can't dictate to them that they should. However, these very Uranian antics are often mistaken for passive-aggression by other (more sane) people, and unless the other person understands that you just can't push a Aqua-Martian around, then a load of misunderstanding is sure to follow.

3) take the fixed route: be stubborn and/or controlling. This is Aqua Mars at it's nastiest, and it's not that far from a Scorpio Mars in this regard. Aqua mars hates, hates, HATES backing down once it's gotten into a fight. The thought of defeat is inconceivable. This is often when that notorious "authoritarism" of an Aqua Martian comes out to play - they act like they know everything, are always right and absolutely won't stop until they've browbeaten their opponent to near death. (The amusing paradox of Aquarius is that it's very openminded - until someone disagrees with it. Then it becomes, well, very *fixed.*) Because it's an air sign, Aqua attacks mostly on a cerebral level in someway, but it is resourceful and will resort to other tactics if it gets the results. Aqua-Martians can also be manipulative and play some serious mind games. You'd think Aqua's strong sense of ethics would prevent this Mars from sinking to a Scorio Mars' level, but no: Aqua Mars just rationalizes such trreachery as "reasonable".

The blunt truth of Aqua Mars is that it's a very arrogant, even proud placement. Furthermore, because it's peregrine, it lacks a proper focus for its very intense energies and can really overwhelm the native. It requires a lot of self-awareness, maturity and humilty for the native to live well with it. Otherwise, like any difficult Mars placement, it can really be disruptive in the native's life.

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alanabelle86
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posted November 28, 2005 10:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for alanabelle86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I apply to all three of those descriptions!

My mars in aqua in the 4th is a singleton as well as my moon in leo.

imaging living with me for a month!!! I drive my Aqua Moon bf nuts sometimes. With his Aqua Moon/Scorpio Mars vs. my Leo Moon/Aqua Mars


our arguments are quite amusing..

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posted November 28, 2005 05:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nove731     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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2) Take the Uranian route: cease all cooperation and assert one's independence. This is when they don't come home. Or don't call. Or go out with their friends instead of keeping a date. Or just ignore you. Again, it's not passive-agressive. In the mind of the Aqua-Martian, the message is loud and clear: I'm my own person and you don't control me. They believe that if they don't want do something (like talk to you), that social conventions (like common decency, politeness, etc) can't dictate to them that they should. However, these very Uranian antics are often mistaken for passive-aggression by other (more sane) people, and unless the other person understands that you just can't push a Aqua-Martian around, then a load of misunderstanding is sure to follow.

Yup. That's me.

I also have really weird things that set me off. Like people whiping things on me. Or when someone believes they deserve special rights for whatever reason (ie, "I'm a girl!", "I'm gay!", "I'm black/Indian/Native American/Whatever!"). And stealing in general makes me so mad.

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sthenri
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posted November 29, 2005 01:13 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is helpful to me GN, because my Mars is in the progressed 11th house, and I attract a lot of Mars in Aqua people these days.

I do feel really pissy in an intellectual way. And much more proud than usual. I am trying to fight it or channel it into work.

I also get this intense need to get into conversations that resemble arguments.

Natasha

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LILYGIRL
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posted April 29, 2007 08:08 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
...bump....

any other folks with mars aqua?

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posted April 29, 2007 09:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jupitersgirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have mars in aqua. I don't fight much. I try to rationalize things. When I can't find a logical reason for my loved one's behavior, I start a fight. I base my fight upon logic not emotions. Because of that he always says that I'm right.---This is the keyword actually, I don't start a fight with my loved one, unless I'm sure that I'm %100 right. It's because I base things upon logic, I detach myself from the situation and I see things from an objective point of view.
If I think it's pointless to fight with a person, I just don't waste my time and energy, I tend to act detached.

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SLAYER
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posted April 29, 2007 09:28 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mom has Mars in Aqua. She starts a fight when actually there is no reason to fight. She picks up something and tries to explain her own feelings about it which doesnt often fits with mines and that is where the bickering starts. In romance She is full of surprises. She loves to make people surprised with her very original thoughts. Dad and I love her this childlike exciting side.

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aquaspryt69
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posted April 29, 2007 09:52 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Another Scorp with Mars in Aqua. 3rd/4th house. Can you say Super B**ch? lol

At 13 yrs of age I owned a hat that said that.
Fight? No. Argumentative? Damn straight!

I like what Gemini Nymph had to say:

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I avoid fighting with an intimate partner all together. I have a very hard time backing down once I'm in "battle modee" and I do not like to say I was wrong.

I can be very passionate, but I can turn it off in a split second and become very detached. Overall, I'm not very romantic or physically affectionate. I prefer demonstrating loyalty, understanding, honesty and mutual respect over romantic gestures.


Now, mind you, when I drank things got extremely physical. Think slow cooker full of spaghetti sauce learning the art of flying.
The Sag/Aqua drunk I was with for 8 yrs learned that one good punch does not stop me when I have a fifth of whiskey in me. I laid a left-handed round house on his face that left him shaking his head, seeing stars.

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