posted November 09, 2005 05:44 PM              

Virgo modifying Venus (relationships) is Venus in the sign of its fall (very challenging energy). Since Virgo is about "daily work" this person tries to create relationships by creating some sort of routine. Unfortunately, relationships need MORE than a routine...they need original, spontaneous action! It is possible that your son hates school because it forces him to have to deal with the challenges of relating to others.

On the other hand, perhaps he has worked out these issues and is fine with relationships...it is SCHOOL he can't stand. When I was a kid, EVERY kid I knew hated school!

Well-schooled,

posted November 09, 2005 06:30 PM              

When I think of school, I think of conformity. And LOL, I loathe it with a vengeance. I think of peer pressure, bullies, stupid a**holes who are popular because they wear the "right" sneakers, teachers who are so dysfunctional I wouldn't want them to potty train my dog. Don't even get me started...

Lol, I do hate it when I get on a soap box, and so does everyone else. I wish I hadn't seen this post, lol!

IMHO -- it is a sign of your son's intelligence that he doesn't like school, and not sweet Venus in Virgo dysfunction.

So much goes into 'school.' It's not just the learning, it's the style of learning that they advocate, where everybody is supposed to CONFORM. But people learn in different ways. Some learn best by LISTENING, others can't absorb what they are hearing, and need to READ it for themselves, still others desperately need INTERACTIVE learning where they can feel and touch things and relate to the material in a concrete way.

Unfortunately, traditional learning only endorses one kind of learning. A talking head at the front of the class room, and the students are supposed to absorb the knowledge like eager sponges and spit it back at the test that's coming up soon. That is not how effective learning takes place for most people. A lot of kids who are "diagnosed" with ADD or learning "disabilities" are really kids that don't fit into the narrow mold of learning. Especially these days when they are all cramming for tests, and not for actual knowledge.

In my case, btw., the fact that I hated school was due to having Uranus and Mercury conjunct the AC, and that my way of learning always involved doing things a little differently.

posted November 10, 2005 12:12 AM              

i have venus in virgo too. yeah i hated school, partly because i didn't fit despite having the right clothes and being pretty, i was shy and insecure and nervously mental (which is very much venus in virgo)

i totally agree with loggerhead regarding the ADD comment.

posted November 10, 2005 11:54 AM              

I also can identify with your sensory issues -- noise and smells just about kill me... (On the other hand, smells and sounds that I love, like Vanilla Shea butter, and wind shimes, can really transport me, lol!)

posted November 10, 2005 12:35 PM              

we have a frangrance-free house, with the exception of natural vanilla and soy candles, lavender/sandalwood are ok with my nose too..and natural flowers like tuberose, lily and roses are fine as long as they are real FLOWERS, lol. & the smell of herbs wafting in from the back yard is a heavenly smell to me.

as far as noise, yep i like absolute silence. it took me years to overcome my frustration with the fan my leo hubby insists are blasting all night. (he needs white noise) not only did the noise bother me, but moving air bothers me too. having a convertable a few years ago was more of a curse because the hairs on my head would blow around and tickle my neck.. it drove me nuts to have the top down unless I had the wind screen up.

posted November 10, 2005 03:32 PM              

I HATED school - BUT - could not WAIT to get to college. I LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE colleges & universities.

Maybe it DOES have something to do with the routine aspect, since in college it's not as predictable. And maybe also has something to do with the "talking head" aspect as well.

And as others have mentioned, I'd look at Uranus, the Sign it's in, the House it's in, and Aspects to it. I've got South Node & MC (Midheaven) in Aquarius, Mars Sextile Uranus, and Uranus Square Ascendant.

ALSO may mean something - I've got two Planets in the 9th House of "higher learning". They are Saturn & Jupiter in Capricorn. This could mean I really place a whole lot of value and credence in higher learning. I'm not about to get fed a bunch of bull from some a-hole teacher. I really take it seriously.

My 9th House Cusp is ALSO in Capricorn.

So look at Planets landing in his 9th House, AND his 9th House Cusp.