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Tula
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posted November 11, 2005 05:42 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What planets/signs/houses/aspects might one associate with a habitual tendency to be a copycat? There is one I work in close proximity with who has been irking me for going on 2 years now: Cancer sun, Aquarius moon, and I suspect Virgo Rising (she's adopted, so it's unlikely that even she knows her actual birth time). In the past I observed that the most impressionable people in my acquaintance had air moons, but I was unable to explore their charts beyond noting the planetary sign placements and aspects for known birthdays. Of course, not all air moons exhibit this inclination, so undoubtedly there must be something more to it. This person seems to lack any identity of her own, and is constantly changing her persona to fit that of whomever she wishes to emulate on a given day. She would make an interesting case study if others knew of and had comparable chart information for folks of similar description.

So who are the copycats/followers/hangers-on in your lives?

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posted November 11, 2005 05:59 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aqua moon sometimes means a "cold" mother or a mother that's not present (John Lennon for instance). So your friend with Aqua moon being adopted makes sense...

What ages are we talking about? One thing is to have an identity crisis at 16 and a different thing is to have it when you're 50...

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Tula
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posted November 11, 2005 06:46 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Aqua moon sometimes means a "cold" mother or a mother that's not present (John Lennon for instance). So your friend with Aqua moon being adopted makes sense...

Yes. Her adoptive mother also fostered a lot of children at a time, as she was growing up; many of whom were severely challenged in one way or another. I know she felt overlooked as a child.

She's 22.

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lioneye68
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posted November 11, 2005 07:33 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a roomate who's a bit of a copy cat. She's an Aries with an Aqua moon & Leo rising. Or, maybe I'm just her hero lol..

We have great synastry, and she's quite a bit younger than me. She's 22 also. But, we have great conversations in spite of the age difference, and I've taught her alot about astrology. Come to think of it, my neice (who I also live with) is a bit of a copy cat as well. She's a Libra with an Aries moon.

This may not be the same as your situation, Tula, because I think in the case of my roomates, the age difference between us may put me in the position of being a bit of a mentor or an adviser to those girls, and they probably just see me as "older and wiser". But, they don't emulate EVERYBODY.

I used to know a Pisces male who took on other people's persona's like a cloak - he would adapt to the style of whoever was the most dominant personality in the room. He didn't really have much of a persona of his own. He was like a chameleon. Terrible temper, though - and a compulsive liar. That guy was a bit of a screw-ball.

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posted November 11, 2005 07:37 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think it must have something to do with neptune = confussion (about own identity) + mask (neptune is the planet of illusion, in the way that many Piscean are actors/ actresses)

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posted November 11, 2005 07:44 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aqua moon= cold mother? Not in my case; my mom is very scorpionic, but I distance myself from her, because she gets extremely worked up emotionally and tends to be extremely possessive, and ends up doing things regretful things in the heat of emotion, so I distance myself from her. Buts she is caring, no means cold...

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posted November 11, 2005 07:48 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To a certain degree the moon shows the way your mother influenced you, not her actual personality. 12 kids with 12 different moons will have a different view of her and she would have left a different mark on each one...

Moon in Aqua often refers to a mother that's very airy, a mother of "ideals" instead of a mother of caress and hugging (more cancerian we could say)

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lioneye68
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posted November 11, 2005 07:55 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would agree, Pop. I have this moon placement, and my mother was more of a pal to me than an authority figure. She didn't really give us (or at least me) that sense of structure that one usually learns from their mother. She was a zany, fun mom, though. And was always letting our friends live with us, if they didn't have anywhere to go, or couldn't get along with their families. She genuinely enjoys people, and could be considered a bit eccentric. Sometimes she would dissappear on us for days at a time, without calling to let us know where she was, or when she'd be home. (that was before she left my dad - when we were quite young) She was affectionate though, and would cuddle and squeeze us half to death sometimes.

My moon is in the 2nd house, the Taurus house, so that may describe a more affectionate Aqua moon mom. (?) (incidently, my moon opposes my sun, and my mom and dad couldn't be more different from one another. Dad's a Taurus. Solid, reliable, predictable, sentimental - great cook. Interesting that my moon is in the Taurus house, hmm?)

My older sister has a Gemini moon, so she experienced the same mom as more of a sibling.

Mom is actually a Sagittarius, with a Libra moon.

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posted November 11, 2005 07:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueTopaz124     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pop...I have moon in Aqua and would have to say my mom and I weren't close, I have always been closer to my father, who also has an Aqua moon. My mom wasn't very affectionate or physically warm, every one just adored her, though, she was Pisces sun. As a Sag sun, we weren't close, kind of like nails on a chalkboard, we just got on each other's nerves and were slightly critical of each other. But, we were more alike than we realized. Both strongly emotional and psychic. I didn't realize this until after she passed away in 1986 how alike we really were and saw the 'distance' more as being like a mirror of each other and not understanding the self, therefore not understanding each other, either...hmmmm interesting.

Laura

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lioneye68
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posted November 11, 2005 08:06 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry, Tula. We kind of went off-topic on you there. Family astrology is just so interesting sometimes.

*tries to get thread back on it's rails*

My Gemini little sister (she's 27) has a Pisces moon, and she often makes her decisions based on what other people do. Or, asks for an opinion on something, then makes it her own opinion. Or, she adopts the same pet peeve as someone else. Gemini's seem to like having pet-peeves though. It gives them something to be animated and dramatic about.

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posted November 11, 2005 08:59 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When Linda describes Pisces (in Love Signs with Aries) she describes a Pisces at a pizza house. The guy asks him/ her what does he/ she wants. Pisces says: "I don't know, what do people ask for?" - The guy says "please chose what YOU want" - Pisces says "No, please, chose one for me... Or make it half and half..." -

Not only that Pisces is indecisive, their Neptunian personality often makes them wonder who they are and what they want... So many times they just follow the trends (in their own way) just for commodity...

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sthenri
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posted November 11, 2005 09:51 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mercury in air houses, learns very fast and likes to adopt traits and routines from others. I do this a lot, mercury in gemini/7th house. I have known a few mercury in aqua, and those with mercury in the 4th house or cancer with these traits you are describing.

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Rede411
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posted November 11, 2005 11:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rede411     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm an Aries w/ Aqua Moon and Gemini rising. I have a similar affliction of what you are describing. I copy peoples lines which I think are very cool and then pass them off as my own. I also call this "Moviequotitus" where any line that comes out of my mouth can be traced back to a movie quote. This drives my friends a little crazy. I have to agree with assesment on the mother. My mother was more of a pal than a mother and thought parenting to be too restictive...once I had a child of my own..I forgave her. You can't blame someone 'til you've walked in their shoes...

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posted November 12, 2005 07:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aquas love experimenting and be different and new all the time (for the sake of shocking others).

Saggs love entertaining others and playing the droll (when they are in a good mood)

Pices can change all the time so that no one catches them or just because of their watery moods.

Virgos may copycat someone if they think that this person can do something better than they can etc.

The lack of identity possible indicators:

debiliated Sun, Saturn, Mars, Pluto in the chart.

dignified Neptune (she becomes what she wants to be), Moon (everything depends on her mood), Venus (she think it will make her better, more attractive etc), Chiron (Janus-faced)

Most planets in cadent houses, mutable signs etc.

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posted November 16, 2005 12:51 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting topic. Maybe what compels one to "copy" is a sense of inadequecy, or wanting to REALLY REALLY fit into a group, or make friends ... something like that ...

What are other examples of being a "copy cat"?

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