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Topic: How to crack open Taureans?
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oddball
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posted November 21, 2005 10:49 PM
 
Everyone says Scorpios are mysterious. I disagree; I think scorpios are relatively easy to figure out- the secretiveness is something that belongs to their personality, not something that describes it, if you know what I mean. In fact I think Taureans are much, much harder to understand, since they talk very little until they get to know you. Even then, they never open up their inner world to other people, and their actions and expressions don't suggest anything about their psyche. I was wondering... how does one understand these people? How do you figure out what makes 'em tick, what makes them happy, sad, angry, whatever. How do you understand these people? I am asking this because I often feel disconcerted around them- I have no idea how to interact with them. I think part of the reason may be that I have no taurus in my chart at all whatsoever, and no planets in my second house. Nothing to suggest taurus-ishness at all. Thanks for your insights...IP: Logged |
lotusheartone
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posted November 22, 2005 01:45 AM
evenballwe are as we appear to be
no lies, Oh we sing it out loud
we are very proud
mystery, no mystery here
we live to BE and we don't hide it, we scream it out loud
then we wait, hehe... patience, is the reward of patience
 and the bull, has been waiting since the beginning, hmm, this isn't much fun... IP: Logged |
SecretGardenAgain
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posted November 22, 2005 02:10 AM
oddball i dont know if this would help u out much at all, but i am very venusian, venus being my chart ruler, in the 7th, plus having a second house prominent moon.... but taurus ppl feel right at home with me, even moreso than libra. i know exactly what ticks them off. in fact, taurus men are some of the most straightforward, sweet men, in my opinion. yes they are reserved but once u start a conversation with them on something that interests them, like politics/philosophy/religion (i find they are often deep thinkers and read a lot), they will snap crackle n pop, baby! they laugh and literally bull-doze u in debates, but they definitely admire people who can justify and argue. ive seen this goes for all the taureans i know, and they really dislike people with ulterior motives, women who are vulgar or crude, oversensitive people (they are ok with the subtle sensitivity), and ppl who are cruel towards anything (be it nature, children, etc). there is a kind of catch 22 involved, if a taurus doesnt feel comfy with u or thinks ur not really friendship material they will never open up. to prove that u are friendship material, u have to make them open up, and trust u. so its a vicious cycle kind of thing. i find i inherently have some sort of trust thing with taureans. in fact one of my taurus gal pals talks sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much that i can usually put the phone down and do my chores and pick it up 5-10 mins later and she'll be chatting along without any input from me. its becoz she trusts me and knows that i understand what shes saying, will never betray or accuse her. be very careful in ur body language at first, taureans like ppl who are decent, friendly, nice, elegant, and feminine. because i have libra rising, most taurus are instantly attracted and feel at home. afterwards also they tend to stay friends for long, except for 2 taurus i have never had bad experiences with any. also, they never forget anything. even more picky with those details than scorpios, believe me Love
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AcousticGod
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posted November 22, 2005 03:14 AM
I have lots of Taurus friends. Some are more accessible than others. My best friend is exactly as you describe, and I too was put off by what seemed to be extreme superficiality. He never opened up about anything deep. Fortunately we connected over music with him singing and me playing to back him up. I probably remained somewhat constant, so maybe he picked me more than I picked him friendship-wise. It was literally years before he started trusting me with more of his deeper emotions. It can be really surprising when they get there. They are worth the wait, though, and not all of them are so reserved. There are a few Sags I know who like to get involved with them romantically. In fact I can think of three Sag/Taurus relationships right off the top of my head. See the other Taurus threads going on to find out why they're so great. IP: Logged |
AcousticGod
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posted November 22, 2005 03:17 AM
quote:
we are as we appear to be
no lies, Oh we sing it out loud
we are very proud
mystery, no mystery here
we live to BE
This is not true of most Taurus'. There is something beyond appearances in most Taurus, and they can hold back the truth if it benefits their situation (which isn't generally attempting to be malicious). IP: Logged |
26taurus
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posted November 22, 2005 03:21 AM
We're hard nuts to crack.IP: Logged |
Gemini Nymph
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posted November 22, 2005 03:37 AM
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There is something beyond appearances in most Taurus, and they can hold back the truth if it benefits their situation (which isn't generally attempting to be malicious).
I would agree to that, and I'm not being malicious either. Taurus is fixed and inclined towards its own comfort, and so if truthfulness leads to change or discomfort, well, you can do the math. Truth is *all* the signs are more than capable of dishonesty (so peeps, stop trying to pin it all on Gemini, thank you very much). It's just each sign has its own motivations to lie.
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26taurus
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posted November 22, 2005 03:43 AM
Not just because I am one, but I've also known alot of other Taureans and I'd say theyre one of (if not the most) honest and truthful signs. We like to keep it real and can be blunt. .....most of us anyway. Just what Ive observed. I think you could say that about the other two earth signs as well.It's actually an uncomfortable thing to lie. Isnt it?  ....Neptune = deception, lies....correct? IP: Logged |
Peri
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posted November 22, 2005 03:58 AM
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He never opened up about anything deep.
I've been accused of that too. I think 'to open up or not to open up' is very a personal and even intimate choice. If I don't trust someone or if I think they might hurt me or I just don't feel like opening up - I don't open up; why? to be hurt and disappointed? I am not trying to hide something from anyone I am just trying to protect myself, that's all.
I hate fighting and all kinds of gripe sessions and go for it only in extreme cases so I try to do everything to avoid such situations; that means if I feel I might get offended or I might become offensive, I try to keep my opinions and views to myself. After all it is all about how we look at things and not how they are in themselves. quote:
There is something beyond appearances in most Taurus, and they can hold back the truth if it benefits their situation (which isn't generally attempting to be malicious).
Well, being honest or dishonest is something that depends on a particular individual not their astrosign. quote:
Truth is *all* the signs are more than capable of dishonesty (so peeps, stop trying to pin it all on Gemini, thank you very much)
There are no honest and dishonest signs, there are honest and dishonest people. IP: Logged |
26taurus
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posted November 22, 2005 04:07 AM
Nicely said, Peri.IP: Logged |
SweetCappie
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posted November 22, 2005 10:36 AM
I agree with the majority. In my experience, Taureans will slowly open up once they feel comfortable around you. Some are more open than others. They are not mysterious people, they are pretty straightforward if asked about their opinion on something. If you make them feel uncomfortable, or give them negative vibes, they will not open up no matter how patient you are. I've known my best male Taurean friend for 20 years, and he's very emotionally expressive and open with me. I know him better than all his friends. He doesn't just open up to everyone, although he is friendly and knows tons of people. It does take him a long time to trust others. My other Taurean friend was very hard to figure out in the beginning. I wasn't very open with her neither, I had my guard up. She was kinda quiet around me, and it didn't really help that I was quiet too. 2 years ago when she went through a crisis, she would hang with my best Pisces friend and tell her not to call me to hang with them. I didn't know it until I asked my Pisces friend why they always hang out without me. It hurt me that the Taurean didn't want me around, but I figured it was because she was depressed so she wanted to be around people that made her laugh (I'm so not funny, my wit is dry but I try lol). Then shortly after, they got into an arguement because she felt the Pisces was trying to use her for her car. They both stubbornly didn't want to forgive the misunderstanding. To this day, the Pisces couldn't forgive the Taurean (yep usually its the other way around but the Taurean got therapy and became more forgiving and tolerant). She started hanging out with me more and she did a complete 180 in my presence. She realized that out of all her friends (whom she knew longer), she could count on me to be there for her when everyone else got tired of hearing how depressed she was over her terrible ex. I was there for her and gave her support and empathy. She also admired my honesty. Last year, I didn't speak to her or any other friend for 6 months because I was going through a break-up and didn't feel like putting on a happy face around others. She invited me to her holiday party but at the last minute I decided not to go. She called me up at 12:00 am that night and begged me to go because she had a surpise for me. I still didn't want to go but she told me that everybody was waiting for me to show up and I must come. I felt bad letting her down so I went and she surprised me with a birthday celebration. I never had a friend throw me a birthday celebration before. Every year, 90% of my family forgets that my birthday is on Christmas so the fact that a friend that I haven't spoken to for 6 months remembered and made me feel special, meant so much to me. So that pretty much shows you that if you are real, honest, and dependable, they pretty much never let you down. Many extroverted people say "be careful of the quiet ones", but its a bunch of bull for the most part (no pun intended). It all depends on the individual, I'm quiet and reserved around people that I don't know or who make me feel uncomfortable. Maybe it's an earth sign thing. IP: Logged |
Taurus80
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posted November 22, 2005 10:45 AM
Wow this is the second thread i've seen recently regarding taurus..we must be getting popular lol  i'd have to agree with the opening up part, it takes me a while..and i do tend to size ppl up to see if they are "friend" material. usually if i don't think they are, then i tend to be kinda closed off and quiet. but i'm working on that. i've learned that sometimes just because you don't click with someone on the spot, doesn't mean they couldn't be a great friend. IP: Logged |
Peri
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posted November 22, 2005 10:50 AM
T80  I also noticed these 'popular sign' phases: Scorps, Aquas, Gemini, Pisces, Taurus... IP: Logged |
Planet_Soul
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posted November 22, 2005 11:36 AM
Hey,
I was just thinking about starting a thread on Taurus, how cool to find one already in motion.
I have two sisters, one is a Taurus/Sag the other is an Aries/Cap. The Arian sister is very social, and has lots of friends (we are very close). My Taurus sister is a lot more closed off, and has about two friends whom she's known from childhood. Whenever anyone goes calling to their house, its usually the Arian they are looking for. This hurts the Taurus, but it is how it has always been. The Arian is outgoing, and loves company while the Taurus stays in her room most of the day even when company is around.
Lately, my Taurus sister appears to be depressed. She no longer wants to join the Arian sister, she wants to be inside all day long. All she does is work, sleep, and stay inside. She has not wanted to be with her friends anymore. My Arian sister confided that the Taurus is depressed, because she's 24 years old and hasn't had a boyfriend since Junior High. I asked the Taurus about this, and she said that yes she is very sad about that-she feels ugly, boys always liek the Arian, etc.
I told her she's a very lovely girl, and she should be proud that she is on her way to complete her Master's degree at such a young age. That things happen in their own time, but she still refuses to come out of the house. I am very worried about her, but I don't know what else to tell her, as we have never been close.
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AcousticGod
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posted November 22, 2005 12:03 PM
Just a note of clarification on what I said...I wasn't saying that Taurus' are dishonest, but was more trying to say that Taurus know when to hold their tongue. They might know the truth to be different than whatever the situation is presenting, but if it benefits them to stay quiet, then they will. They don't hold back that information to be malicious, though. They just find that offering the information to be more troublesome than keeping it in. IP: Logged |
pidaua
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posted November 22, 2005 12:48 PM
Taurus ABSOLUTELY has the capacity to be dishonest, but it is not inherent in their Sun Sign. I look at aspects. I was involved with a Taurus for almost 2 years and he was a pathological liar. I worked with a Taurus CEO for 5 years that had no guilt about lying to shareholders or employees.Then again, I have been around several wonderful Taurus people that would never lie or bend the rules. My ex-in-laws are proof in point. I admire their honesty and even though my ex-father in law was not the warmest human being to others, he was very open and kind to me. Sometimes it takes YOU to let them know that you are safe and secure. If they sense that you are open and honest, they will bend over backwards to show you their inner selves. For my ex Taurus - he had several horrible aspects - Moon square Neptune, Moon square Mercury, Mercury opposing Neptune. He also has an addictive personality. Addicts LIE - that is how they hide their addictions. We shared specific synastry aspects that made it impossible to lie to each other, so he was always getting caught. When he couldn't keep up the charade, he made it his mission to hurt me as a way to get back for what I knew. I almost swore off all Bull-men...then... walks in this Taurus man - calm, cool - collected.. and SWEET.. lol.. he doesn't share those aspects with the other Taurus and in fact, we have a wonderful synastry / composite chart. We talk ALL the time.. and we are very open. Maybe that is because he has a Sag moon / Neptune (and I am a Sag with Venus in Sag). Sometimes the hedonistic tendancies can get the best of the Bull (when they are badly afflicted) which leads them down roads that even an Aries moon like me fears to tread. I am still wounded by some of his words / behaviors, but Karma is funny. It brings someone into your life that shows you that not all signs are the same- but you have to take the risk of getting hurt or not getting hurt instead of putting them into a stereotype. Through this other Taurus I am learning that "physical pleasure" isn't the first and foremost item on the agenda and that it isn't used to control the other person. He is gentle whereas the other Taurus was crude and pushy. If I had not taken the chance.. then I would never have known. LOL... Sometimes with Taurus you need to rely on your SENSES not only the spoken words. Yes, they can be complex, but that is only because they too have been hurt before. In almost every Taurus I meet, I can see them as a kid. Trying to hard to show their affections and maybe even being told it was not acceptable. Being with someone that allows them to show their affection / love nature in a safe environment will produce many rewards.. for their mate and for them.
~Pidaua
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posted November 22, 2005 01:02 PM
Hey Planet_Soul,sounds like your Taurus sis indeed has depression but also possibly social phobia/social anxiety, another condition which gets triggered by 'foreign persons' being around. (Some other q's that might provide clues are: how long has she been like this, have any traumatic events happened to her in childhood, or maybe at school?) Would you mind sharing your sister's chart with the forum? There are some pretty amazing astrologers here that can probably take a look at it and see if anything's up. Also, if your sister's eliminated pretty much all her friends *and* doesn't seem to care about it, that could be pointing to avoidance as with PTSD/AvPD. I'd recommend talking with her about it and just asking her more specific questions. Good luck!
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Planet_Soul
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posted November 22, 2005 06:20 PM
Now that I think about it, yes there is some family stress going on with my sister. Both of my sisters had been renting an apartment together w one of our cousins. A few months ago, my cousin's psycho bf threatened my sister w a knife. My sister was terrified, and gave our cousin a choice to either move-out or not have her bf dropping by the apartment anymore. My cousin refused, and so my sisters asked her to leave. It caused major drama in our family, with some of our Aunts being upset with my sisters over it. My sister has been having feelings of guilt over it, and trouble sleeping in addition to her continuos isolation. Here is her chart, I do appreciate your concern 
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for Gladys (female)
born on 23 April 1981 local time 10:43 pm
in Fresno, CA (US) U.T. 06+43
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Planetary positions
planet sign degree house motion
Sun Taurus 03°59'49 04 direct
Moon Sagittarius 28°05'26 01 direct
Mercury Taurus 00°06'15 04 direct
Venus Taurus 08°22'21 04 direct
Mars Aries 29°13'53 04 direct
Jupiter Libra 02°05'08 09 retrograde
Saturn Libra 04°23'28 09 retrograde
Uranus Scorpio 29°05'58 11 retrograde
Neptune Sagittarius 24°38'55 12/1 retrograde
Neptune is technically near the end of house 12 and is interpreted in house 1.
Pluto Libra 22°38'59 10 retrograde
True Node Leo 06°11'14 08 retrograde IP: Logged |
LuLu
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posted November 22, 2005 06:41 PM
Well speaking as a Taurus with a Sag. Moon and Cap. Rising, I know I am hard to get to know. I don't trust anyone easily and I really need to feel a person and their behaviors out before letting them in. I had a friend I have known for almost two years tell me recently that she had never really heard me talk about myself or anyone I had dated in the past. I didn't realize I hadn't told her. I assume that I wear my emotions on my sleeve much more than I really do. We had a seminar and speaker at work recently and we all had to take little tests to figure out personality types. The speaker asked me on a scale of one to five how emotional I perceive myself to be. Then he asked a friend of mine across the room to rate me. We didn't even come close to the same number. I am always nervous because I assume people can see right through me. My emotions are always right there on the surface, but apparently I mask it very well. I makes me wonder how many relationships have gone south because I unknowingly shut someone out and didn't let them inside my head. Believe me though... once you get me talking, I can talk to a wall IP: Logged |
SweetCappie
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posted November 22, 2005 07:36 PM
PlanetSoul, Your sister has some reserved placements: Moon conj. ascendant, Taurus Sun, and Moon in the 1st house. I have a 1st house moon and the descriptions are very similar to a Cancer moon. 1st house moon suggests shyness, hypersensitivity, moodiness, and empathy/intuitive to others moods and energies. She also has a 12th house Neptune, Neptune conj. Ascendant, and Moon conj. Neptune that suggests she may have intuitive/empathetic gifts plus sensitivity. She could feel overwhelmed by other people's energies and moods. If she is empathetic and doesn't know how to control it (meditation, staying centered, grounding), it can feel EXTREMELY uncomfortable being around other people. Alot of empaths that don't know how to control the overwhelming sensations, tend to isolate themselves. From what you said, I think she may just be very sensitive, shy, have a lack of self-confidence, low self-worth and low self esteem. It also sounds like an episode of depression. IP: Logged |
sthenri
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posted November 22, 2005 08:35 PM
Planetsoul, your sister is not depressed. Her senses are shocked by her sister the Aries. Aries and Taurus do not live together well without a lot of understanding. First of all she stays in her room because she can't figure out a way to people please the Aries friends-Taurus has to please it's their nature. Also her kind of friends are probably scared away by the Aries who judges them as not interesting. the Taurus probably goes along and then feels cut off. Taurus is NEVER anti-social, they are too social and too pleasing. your sister resembles me when I lived with my Sag sister before I asked her to move, as she was very outgoing but loud, and drove my friends away because my friends were quiet, libras, or pisces, or virgos who needed a space to come out of their shells and find a retreat from the world. My Sag sister tried to turn our place into a giant Disco Ball every night of the week which REALLy got on my nerves as I like clean and orderly and she liked literally giant glowing disco balls everywhere and christmas lights!! Talk about insulting to the senses. Taurus is right up there with Pisces as sensitive to the environment, I must have peace, and I have learned to be very assertive about getting it whereas before I put up with more crud. My last roomate was an Aries and she would throw parties bring home her airline stewardess friends who then brought home their guy friends and so on..plus Aries is very free with opinions and so I got lots of comments like..your boyfriend is such an AHole right in front of him. So no, the two do not mix if they are both single and looking, not at first. The Taurus has to be very assertive and the fire sign understanding. As for why Taurus is hard to open up Taurus doesn't get as bored with people as other signs do, that's what we are like. We are fascinated with human nature, remember Freud was a Taurus. Being that way we are not fickle and want to pry and dig into you, or vice versa. If you try to crack us open we get very irritated and I have known a few Taurus who had nervous breakdowns after working next to curious signs. Especially Libra, Scorpio, and Aquarius. I once knew a Libra, Scorpio and Aquarius working in an office with me and I had to run-everyday was an inquisition on my personal life-the main accountant was a Taurus and had a nervous breakdown right before Ieft-she said it was personal problems but it was actually the ultra nosy staff who commented on her hair, weight, divorce, etc.. The Scorpio asked me once if charged a $1000 a night for sex because if I did he thought I was worth it. Then another time he asked me if I ever wanted true love or did I just use men? The Aquarius would ask if I liked to be spanked and offered a kinky motel, The Libra wanted every detail on my personal life, the only normal ones were a Sag and a Virgo. Taurus people distrust those who pry and give nothing about their future-your past, your dog as a child, your mother, your issues, are not so important to us as what your future plans are-otherwise we will have to reciprocate and we don't like to talk about the past much. Unless we have Venus in Pisces. Take Care,
Natasha
Taurus/6th house (Double Earth!)
Cancer Moon/8th house (Good Placement)
Aries Venus/5th house
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Happy Dragon
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posted November 22, 2005 08:50 PM
Oddball .. .. re this :** I am asking this because I often feel disconcerted around them .. ( taurus) .. .. just a synastry theory ..
.. some of your placements .. midpoints thereof ..
.. are either potentialy square or opposite to a taurean sun ..
.. together they represent a fair slice of influence accross the second sign ..
.. ( see link ) ..
.. the represented areas are approximate ..
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sdg1844
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posted November 22, 2005 09:30 PM
hmmmmm... I have 2 Taurus males in my family (uncle and cousin). They are 2 of the best ppl I have ever known. Straight up direct and blunt. My uncle had a profound effect on me and I measure most men against him because of the love and attn he gave me growing up. My best friend in H.S. was a Taurus male and I adore him to this day. Tremendous integrity and what you see is what you get w/the Taurus men I know. ------------------
Before you speak, ask yourself, is it kind, is it necessary, is it true, does it improve on the silence?
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Planet_Soul
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posted November 22, 2005 10:04 PM
I called my sister and invited her to go see a movie I want to spend more time with her, so she knows she is loved. Natasha, you are on target about my sister's getting on each other's nerves. They've lived together for two years now, but lately they're personalities have been clashing more and more. My Arian sister loves having friends over and going out to clubs all the time. My Taurus sister used to go along with it, but has outgrown the night club scene. I think things were better when our Libra cousin was still living with them, as she got along good with both of them. Hugs IP: Logged |
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posted November 23, 2005 02:44 PM
pidaua -You and the Sag you were living with did end up breaking up? Last I'd heard, you were thinking that it was heading that way, but were still trying to work things out. ------------------
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