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LeylaLeFay
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posted November 26, 2005 12:36 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm giving the whole "Archer and his Aunt" post a run for it's money.

Okay. So. Where to begin...

I'm getting over my ex, when this great guy appears. He's good looking, successful, romantic, comes from an esteemed family.

Mr. Perfect is even into astrology!
I am wooed with breath-taking love letters.
And as a surprise gift, he presents me with a drawing he'd been working on in secret. It's of me, and he made me look so beautiful. He's so talented.

I know there's something wrong with all of them but: HE'S A CROSS DRESSER.

Yes. All true.

He even sends me a pic. I opened up his latest letter to find him in make up and a evening gown with elbow length gloves and his hair all teased up for that "wind blown" effect.

He had pursed lips and his head cocked to the side. A man doing a poor imitation of a female's coy expression.

I could have died, I tell you.

In this same letter he informed me he has venus in libra rising. Which seems to make sense of him.

So, do I just stop returning his letters, or do I phone Jerry Springer?

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future_uncertain
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posted November 26, 2005 01:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for future_uncertain     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Heck, I'd go with it for a while just to see what happens. But I'm attracted to weirdos.

Is it okay to laugh? Not at you, but your story is hilarious! I feel for ya, girl.

Do keep us posted!

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AcousticGod
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posted November 26, 2005 01:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, keep him! Or at least check out your synastry.

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LeylaLeFay
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posted November 26, 2005 02:01 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Keep him? Are you guys serious?

Look at this!

I was using my infamous mind-control tricks, as you might have guessed. Guaranteed to make any man wild for you.

So I wonder: Is this irony, or karma?

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AcousticGod
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posted November 26, 2005 02:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There may not be many opportunities for you to go for a cross-dresser, you may as well.

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Gemini Nymph
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posted November 26, 2005 02:13 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aw, how cute! He's obviously enjoying himself - good for him. I have no issues with people who wish to cross dress. I have issues with people who do this and then heaps tons of shame on themselves. I have bigger issues with people who want to shame others for this, as if they have the right to judge.

My ex-finacee was a closet cross dresser, and he was a Cancer-Libra-Virgo. His moon was conjunct his Uranus, and intercepted int eh 1st house. He had tons of shame about it,but refused to get into therapy. I dumped him because I wasn't going to be with a guy who wanted to make himself miserible.

Anyhow I don't see what is wrong with seeing a guy who likes doing this. If he's comfortable with it, then the only real problem is what other may think about it. I persoanlly am not one who cares about that, but I know it's major issue for others.

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SecretGardenAgain
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posted November 26, 2005 02:19 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
wow leyla that is WEIRD huh. well im so sorry to hear about that what are his sun/moon placements, and where is mars? btw im a libra rising with venus in the 7th opp. my AC, but i never cross dress (avoids suspicious LL stares). really i dont! hehehe. i like wearing collared shirts and jeans a lot, but of the very feminine sort, and with light makeup always, although i prefer knits. well i guess that makeup bit gives me something in common with ur guy huh

i wonder why air men are always so androgynous ? strange .

Love
SG

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LeylaLeFay
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posted November 26, 2005 02:30 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not anti-cross dresser. I just don't think I want to have sex with one.

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sthenri
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posted November 26, 2005 02:46 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Leyla, weren't you with a Taurus? Is he now your ex? I really would avoid any man who writes love letters-I know that sounds unromantic but whenever one does to me, there is something wrong with him-too romantic=unrealistic weirdo.

Love letters, songs, poems, messages and emails of love, especially from someone unavailable-all red flags. Now I demand love in person, as in friendly affection.

Don't believe in romance, it's a waste of time and keeps you from knowing the person.

Good Luck Honey, and cross that one off your list!

Natasha

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LeylaLeFay
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posted November 26, 2005 02:56 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was with an Aries. (Who is now my ex.)

All the romantic letters and drawings were a direct result of using my infamous mind-control tricks. Guaranteed to make any man wild for you. I knew exactly what I was doing. I just didn't know he was a cross dresser.

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sue g
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posted November 26, 2005 03:09 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A woman I know lives with a cross dresser....they are so into each other.....and when they are out, he looks stunning with full makeup and high heels and stuff. She dont wear makeup or fancy clothes.

They have a wonderful love life together and she adores him....they are both SCorpios.

Why is it weird.......go for it.....its not what is on the outside...its the type of guy he is that counts, and it could add to the excitement of the relationship.

My hubbie and I went to a 70s glam rock disco a while back and he wore full makeup, glitter, lipstick, eyeshadow etc and I tell you guys he looked so feminine and horny.....it was one of the best nights we had in a long time. He looked like Marc Bolan....yum yum yum...

Viva la difference people........

xxx

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Charlotte
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posted November 26, 2005 03:13 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I'm not sure how to quote, but here goes...
( LeylaLeFay:
I'm not anti-cross dresser. I just don't think I want to have sex with one.)

I feel for ya! I'm not sure I would want to either, he may have a sexier negligee then I do- ack! and if his shoes cost more then mine, we would have major issues.

Seriously,
I can understand your doubts about going any further into the relationship. I would keep him as a friend though, He seems like a really nice guy.

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LeylaLeFay
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posted November 26, 2005 03:15 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I used to date goth boys in eyeliner and black vinyl pants...but it's differant, they weren't trying to look like women.

I can't have sex with a man while he's pretending to be a woman, and I'm not going to be made to feel guilty about it.

(Thank u for understanding, Charlotte!)

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virgo
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posted November 26, 2005 03:59 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Girls can wear jeans, And cut their hair short
Wear shirts and boots....'Cause it's OK to be a boy. But for a boy to look like a girl is degrading. Because you think that being a girl is degrading
Secretly you would love to know what it's like...Wouldn't you?
What it feels like for a girl

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ariestiger
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posted November 26, 2005 04:14 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Leyla, if you don't feel comfortable with it, don't do it. Simple as that.

And no, I wouldn't want to go out with a cross-dresser either.

AT

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JupiterRulesSurely
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posted November 26, 2005 07:22 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
First and most important - I wanna know about your tricks!! (Not that I would EVER try to mindcontrol anyone - we scorpio moons don't do that...! (Very innocent smile))!

I read some of your other wonderful posts Leyla, and you seem to me to be a person who needs a real man - and real aren't cross dressers... Not in my world anyway.

Still it is kinda funny... I feel for you, but I can't help laughing.

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WaterNymph
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posted November 26, 2005 02:38 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can’t believe you posted his picture!!!!!! does that say “tease me”?

Anyway, most important thing is how you feel. If you’re uncomfortable then don’t go for it.

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SecretGardenAgain
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posted November 26, 2005 02:49 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yes i agree leyla it is YOUR choice, and dont let anyone tell u that ur afraid of this or that blah blah. virgo i find ur post both laughable and offensive at the same time. i love how people psychoanalyze others as being afraid, homophobes etc. without realizing that each person has the right to feel a certain way. dont change her feelings. as if YOU dont have any fears or dislikes yourself. not everyone has to like mashed potatoes or meat loaf. its a PERSONAL CHOICE. power to u leyla for deciding what is a turn off for you. if it is a big turnoff, dump the guy. so it goes in relationships.

btw im surprised about the Aries sun thing. maybe because Aries men tend to be so manly-men, u know what I mean? Im with an Aries/Gemini right now, and its freaking me out, better check his closet LOL jk. actually he is very male-male, and sometimes even chauvinistic which i wish i could change. but imma probably do away with him anyways, he is slow in change.

and romance might be strange for other men...but i think it is just regular stuff for aries men. they have an ideal world inside their head. if they think ur their princess they will do anything for u and literally mean anything. i dont think its abnormal for an aries man to do uber romantic stuff at least in the beginning of the relationship. its completely normal.

Love
SG

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Jools
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posted November 26, 2005 03:12 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LeylaLeFay, sorry to hear you didn't like his surprise revelation. What a shame, though, I don't think I'd be too keen on it either. At least you know he thinks he can trust you as it would be a pretty big thing for a guy to reveal, especially to a girl he likes!!! Go gentle cause if he's Aries Sun, he will be cut to the quick by rejection. Good luck.

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WaterNymph
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posted November 26, 2005 03:47 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wasn’t there a thread about Aries guys and cross dressing? well the Aries I went out with wasn’t like that…..as far as I know

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LeylaLeFay
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posted November 26, 2005 05:30 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Virgo- When I cut my hair and wear jeans I am not having a "sexual fantasy" about being a man. Nor do I feel I am a "man trapped in a womans body."

He, however, is pretending to be a woman. If I wanted a woman in bed, I'd go be a lesbian.

(Which might explain the leanings of Sue G's butch friend who lives with a transvestite, yet doesn't wear makeup or fancy clothes herself.)

JupiterRulesSurely- Interesting, because I too am a scorpio moon. I posted my tips under the thread on Aquarius men.

SecretGardenAgain-Jools-WaterNymph
He is not an Aries sun. My ex was the Aries sun. This guy is a Sagg sun. He explains the cross dressing by his venus in Libra Rising.

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sthenri
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posted November 26, 2005 05:45 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Leyla, don't be down, I have an 8th house Cancer moon and many men confide their secrets in me too and it's a pain.
People who are more that what they seem are not really that bad, at least you know the WORST secret he has.

It doesn't say anything about your attractiveness as a woman-he felt you are very female and he could open up to you, I too attract men who have a little of the sensitive side-and they either overreact and become very macho or try to escape.

Do you want to stay friends with him? That is the real question.

Natasha

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virgo
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posted November 26, 2005 07:09 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SecretGardenAgain:

Those were not my words. They were said by Madonna in "What it feels like for a girl".
I posted that because I thought it was funny. I was listening to that song as I was reading this post....so I thought I post it.
When it comes to her situition...I understand what shes saying. I don't think I would ever sleep with one either even though I'm not aganist them.

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LeylaLeFay
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posted November 26, 2005 07:55 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would be friends with him, but he doesn't want to be "just friends." He believes he's in love with me.

He wants to dress up as a woman and serve me, while I mock, degrade, and beat him. This just isn't the kind of sexual experience I'm in for.

I'm not shy to a little expiramentation. I have been known to enjoy playing tie-up and spanking games.

But...this...is out of my territory.

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sthenri
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posted November 26, 2005 08:00 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Leyla, let him know firmly that you do not want to be that kind of friend. To you friendship is being mutually supportive of each other's goals. Let him know he is welcome anytime to talk about his future, but not to be his g/f.

Sounds like he is stuck in the past, or conditioned by some past event and replaying it over and over again. It's not going to help him much to keep reliving this, and it would be very detrimental to your mental health. If he really insists then ask him gently if he has gone to counseling about this or is it a lifestyle? Make it clear it's something that does not support your friendship and you need someone to support your goals and lifestyle too. In fact, that's what you were hoping for. And your lifestyle does not involve non traditional relationships.

See how that goes,


Natasha

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