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ariestiger
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posted December 17, 2005 01:22 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't we all.

But when I say a MAN, I mean a MAN. Not someone with hang-ups, not s/o with a chip on their shoulder, not s/o who needs to be mothered. Someone who enjoys life and their work and has confidence in bucketloads, and is also very passionate.

At the same time I also realize I need to work on myself emotionally and can't just rest on my laurels. I have been going on dates recently and realize I come over as assertive/aggressive, basically because I won't take any sh*t from anyone any more. The fact that I am pretty much in command of myself and very straightforward about my desires etc. perhaps results in my coming over as slightly cold, and potentially demanding. I have got so detached now (I thought, from having lived with Mr. Aquarius) that I find it very difficult to show warmth. Efficiency, enthusiasm, passion for what I do, but not interpersonal warmth, and I don't know why I'm like this.

Then again, I'd also want someone who took their work seriously and was passionate about it (and me) and was also private with their heart. Why should I settle for second-best?

I've just watched the DVD of "Secretary" and although it's a very, very good film, it's left me thinking that all guys want a submissive woman, or at least, a woman that is needier than themselves; someone who is complete in themselves, they maybe wouldn't be all that bothered with - am I correct in my suspicions? - Or, if the woman WAS complete in themselves, the guy would be looking for a mother.

Now no way do I want any of those scenarios. I want a MAN, who is not approaching any potential relationship with the degree of cynicism (which is what it amounts to) mentioned above. I hope I am not being too cynical here myself! Are there any guys at all out there who are healthy, high-achieving and sane?

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cancerrg
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posted December 17, 2005 01:26 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
I Want a MAN!!!!!

NO PROBS!!
I AM AVAILABLE

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cancerrg
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posted December 17, 2005 01:44 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
it's left me thinking that all guys want a submissive woman, or at least, a woman that is needier than themselves; someone who is complete in themselves, they maybe wouldn't be all that bothered with - am I correct in my suspicions? - Or, if the woman WAS complete in themselves, the guy would be looking for a mother.


NOT NECESARILLY !
cancer men are pretty infamous to be such men but then again i have had a crush on a woman who is much more bossy than what i am

infact that was the first thing that striked me about her .

before i say anything more , let me clarify it , i am not against strong or modern woman , though i am cancerian ( i clarified it bcos i already have had controversy regarding it , i dont want it again)

women and men when defining thier rights tend to go overboard .
try to understand it as a cancer's shell , just bcos i dont want to get hurt , i maintain a hard look on my face and that hard look sometime does irritate people .
its the same with modern women , i feel they have a defensive attitude towards thier rights as they fought for centuries now ,that makes them overtly aggresive at times , thats what needs to balanced bcos its all about balance .

i dont think we have to be aggressive to empahsies our rights . i make this mistake always as i am a short tempered person but then even i take aggression as something wrong .


p.s. : i feel i got lost in between the post, dont worry , i'll be back when i recollect !

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bullhead
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posted December 17, 2005 03:36 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i watch dr.phill the other day talking bout all the myth of guys, and found out no questions ask "most men are intimated by strong women!!!" suprise! LOL
but the trick is us woman to show our strength through being gentle and caring, i know its very hard to find the balance, i could be come on very strong when i hear men acting like a baby but think they are real man! but still, i know it take more courage and strength to be loving then come out in ur face kind of aggressiveness. but hell, dont ever surrender by being sumbssive for their sake, that really sickening me when i see some women do dat. one time, this guy told me," y dont u learn cooking, then i will marry u" i looked at him shockingly, then he said:"u know, then u'll be the total package"
so i said to him "wht u gonna eat if ur wife die? eat garbage??"
i told him dont u ever make that an condition in a relationship, when ppl live together, of course we should take care of each other, but if u make dat an issue or major concern, then i really suspect ur survival skills!
yeah, dont take second best take just who can deserve the real u, and appreciate u.
the rite one will come along, be patient AT. love happens when its least expected
all the best

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WaterNymph
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posted December 17, 2005 03:50 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lol Cancer quiet you
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a man of quality is not threatened by a woman of equality

Who was it that said that?

I can totally relate ariest. But I think, I’ll be my true self. If someone doesn’t like it…then they can stick their “opinion” where the Sun don’t shine

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Happy Dragon
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posted December 17, 2005 04:57 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AriesT

.. on the doorstep ..
.. you have 2 years worth of transiting Uranus conjunctions to your natal
Jupiter / Venus and Moon ... (2005/7)
transiting Uranus is currently squaring your natal Neptune ..
and if the MC deg is correct here .. transiting Neptune is Trine to your Mc/Ic axis ..

.. keep in mind that .. in your chart ..
.. Jupiter /Venus/Moon .. are in square aspect to NEPTUNE ...

.. i doubt that your love life will be boring over the next 2 years ...
.. plenty of parties this time of year .. ... have a blast ...

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ariestiger
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posted December 17, 2005 05:43 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ahhh, bless you, cancerrg

And you too, bullhead and WaterNymph

Good point abt. parties, HD, my ex wouldn't go to any when we were together, so I think I shall book myself into some Be where the action is.
HD - doesn't Uranus denote instability, though? Is that mollified, or compounded, by its being CJ my Moon, Venus & Jupiter?

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Happy Dragon
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posted December 17, 2005 06:48 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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party time !! ... you have t.Mars (le' guys) sextiling your natal Jupiter(good times) untill the 26th ..
.. youv'e just got thru a merc to pluto aspect .. (deep thought processes etc .. bit of worry maybe) ..
.. men ??? .. are they not to be found at your local football club ?? ..

*** I have got so detached now (I thought, from having lived with Mr. Aquarius) that I find it very difficult to show warmth. Efficiency, enthusiasm, passion for what I do, but not interpersonal warmth, and I don't know why I'm like this.***

.. 'passion for what u do' .. ... in your natal there are a fair ammount of aspects to your MC from the 'personal' planets .. and the current (potential) tNeptune to your MC .. Nept is more about an "Ideal" .. remember to keep reality in mind .. .. but don't loose your dreams regarding your MC or life path ..

.. 'but not interpersonal warmth' .. that's another potenial i think may be in your natal setup to some extent .. however .. .. transits from Uranus are pretty good at getting 'interpersonal warmth ' to take a back seat .. one could think of Urns transits as one of the growth cycles .. like Saturn .. (previous hit for Urns to same placements was 83/84 ) ... so this Urns transit is in one sense fairly new to you ( be every 20 yrs aprox .. that it squares its natal position .. hence the opposition when one hits 40 .. ... and the saying that life starts at 40 ) ....

.. i daresay a Urns transit to natal Neptune could confuse one .. as to .. 'passion (idealism?) for one' versus 'impersonal detachment' for another .. ( give yourself a chance!! .. i mean after your recent mr.aquarius debacle .. who wouldn't be somewhat cynical .. give yourself sometime .. enjoy lifes adventures .. don't get weighed down with emmotional baggage )

.. that Urns transit is likely to give you some 'wake up calls' .. thing is .. Neptune be likely to put you in some sort of idealistic wish state .. ... .. therefore the 'wake up calls' .. unexpected events .. .. may be just a bit more if a shock .. when they occur.

.. whats with the move to London ?? ... plenty of hi achievers there .. per square meter ..
.. take a trip to australia .. nay .. emigrate to australia .. place be made for fire signs ( be a Sag country)
sun sea sand .. men who only drink four-X .. winters are mellow .. sometimes it's party party party ..
.. .. sorry .. thought of 'travel' vis a vis the Urns transit .. u might find yourself doing just that ...
... start dating an airline pilot .. .. could fill the 'want' list .. .. ...

anyhow IF i can figure the 'detachment' bit in your natal .. i'll have a go at explaining ....
.. but look to your Air placements .. and what aspects them ..
(tUrns be 'air' .. .. tNept be 'water' .. or 'detachment' .. vs 'feeling' )
.. by transit your getting a mix ... ...

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hot_ice
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posted December 17, 2005 07:22 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I dont like girls bossing over me,somehow irritates me but It's okay once in a while,at the same time,it's not really nice if the girl is like "yes master",that is too boring too,after sometime,I'll be like,hey girl,get a life....

There has to be a nice balance for me...

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Happy Dragon
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posted December 17, 2005 08:02 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AriesT

*** doesn't Uranus denote instability, though?***

.. yes .. but not neccesarily in a bad way ..
.. eccentricity can be loads of fun .. :-)

ok .. slighty diff scenerio (to yours) .. but i've had/having t.Urns to nMars then to the ASC ..
(i've just realise tUrns is doing a bit of a back/forward dance ) .. over the past year .. plus
a Neptune transit .. .. .. .. ok a few minor mishaps about the house (impatience) ... for some realy
strange reason the bedroom hifi keeps turning on and off on an iregular basis .. all on its own ..
as if it's haunted .. .. music playing or for that matter any sort of art endeavor has entailed
new discoveries .. unexpected at that .. musical accidents .. or press a button in a graphics editor
and wham .. instant wow out of the blue .. .. .. and a sudden realisation as to the process
that made it go Wow ..

.. in essence ... new discoveries for oneself .. usualy unexpected ...

.. .. keep forgetting about boiling water on gas stove'cause am too engrossed in whatever ..
.. left it on overnight (all be totaly out of character ) and woke up to ... oh shyte what's that smell ..
.. then 'thank the lord i didn't burn the house down' ...

.. sort of Nept being given a Uranian shock ...

anyhow Urn transit in the 'relationships' department ... and instability ..
well ... folk have a tendency to get 'individualistic' ... 'impulsive' .. 'going their 'own way' .. partner can tag along
if they fancy .. ... like a state of mind ... feeling of 'partnership' can take a backseat in priority ..
.. ( with other transits going on .. this will fluctuate ) ..

i guess all in all what i wanted to point out was .. .. be aware of the 'tinted glasses' that
a Neptune transit can provide ( and re your aspects to same in your natal ) ... Urns is
likely to shatter the lenses now and again over its transit period ..
.. wake up calls are needed now and again ...

i bet the Urns transit will realy boost your art involvement ... good time for that ..
get to work on next years Turner .. ... immerse an old BT phone box in Thames sludge
for the Urns transit period .. .. then remove it .. display as an outdoor loo from leeds ..
.. enter in Turner prize ..

.. to be honest i find the Urns transits a boost .. ... not too kind on ones temperment
.. the outer planet transits .. at first time around can be realy unnerving as they feel 'new' ..
.. after a couple .. one can feel the energy building but there is also a feeling of familiarity ..
in that .. "i remember that feeling .. this time i will know how to harness it " ..

*** Is that mollified*** .. .. :-))))))))) .. well hey .. maybe in a sense .. depends what y'want ..
.. you may find it easier simply to 'be yourself' without too much thought to what others may think ..

actualy if you don't allready involve computer technology in your art ...
Urns transit be a good time to look at it ( computers be related to Urns generaly )
.. or any new modern technology connected to .. or that could be used in your artwork ..

transiting Urns ........
.. think 'electricity' .. .. 'individuality' .. .. 'different' ... 'unexpected' ...
.. could sort of sum it up ...

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ariestiger
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posted December 18, 2005 05:14 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WOW, HD, incredible detailed interpretation, and you are bang on abt.:
1) Merc-Pluto CJ (worry, yes, money-related)- having to streamline & focus on potentially most productive elements...going through a major sea change w/ my way of looking at things, life in general and w/ my art as I'm trying to make it more saleable...did natural history illustration for years and, whilst I've got a book I wrote & illustrated coming out next year from a prominent publisher...I need to make some money!!
2) Involvement of computer-related work in my art. I can see more and more that I am going to have to get myself Adobe Illlustrator at some point. (i.e. SOON). I was thinking abt. this only yesterday.
3) Entering my work for an art prize. Well, funnily enough, I AM going to (just for fun though).

I'm currently on match.com but of course it's easy for ppl to create a good impression online...I don't drink but I definetely need to get out a bit more...over the last few months I've been chasing back & forth trying to get my business going, can't get any state support either, no Jobseeker's Allowance, no Housing Benefit, no nothing. BUT I have got a business loan. I'm hoping our house will sell in the not-too distant future, just hoping Mr. Aqua hasn't decided to stuff fish inside the curtain-rails (wouldn't put it past him)!!!!! Be nice to get that one cleared up.

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Happy Dragon
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posted December 18, 2005 01:36 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ar.Tiger ...

*** Entering my work for an art prize. Well, funnily enough, I AM going to (just for fun though).***

.. just in time to ... .. your first natal position to be hit with the conjunction from Urns .. .. is .. Jupiter .. that is Jan'06 .. .. so don't be suprised if you win a prize or .. there is some unexpected offshoot from having entered in the first place .. :-)

.. looking at your chart .. i.e. transits going back a few years (i was checking what outer planets have been involved ) .. seems like Saturn / Pluto and Chiron were pulling the strings .. they are out of the way now .. .. btw: late 2001 .. looked heavy .. Saturn return plus Pluto on the Mc/Ic ... .. ...

Feb 2007 sees Urns on just the farside of your natal Venus/Moon .. at the same time t.Jupiter conjoins your Ic (i.e opposite your Mc ) ... ... don't know what to make of it .. thought i'd mention it ..

***I'm currently on match.com but of course it's easy for ppl to create a good impression online...I don't drink but I definetely need to get out a bit more...over the last few months I've been chasing back & forth trying to get my business going,***

... start your own agency .. .. be the boss .. .. you have the tools .. your artwork .. so your own advertising designs .. .. astrology to help out with matching folk up .. .. fire sign enthusiasm for those 'singles' parties / outings / events .. .. your MC in Gem should help out loads ... .. .. if you can handle Adobe Illustrator .. then web design / editor / page maker software would be no problem to suss out .. .. .. .. .. i reckon with Urns in your 2nd house .. your means of earning dosh would come from something "a bit out of the ordinary" ...

.. it's FreeZing here at the moment .. ... ... need food urgently ..
.. will try and give you the low down on transit land at somestage .. i.e. when urns be conjoining those three bears .. sorry .. placements .. planets ..

(fish in the curtain rails :-))))))))) .. ..

'till later ..
hd

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ariestiger
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posted December 18, 2005 03:32 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually, the Saturn in Cancer transit was the MOST difficult recent transit for me (last difficult Saturn transit was when Saturn was in Aries). Really bad situation at home from Jan 2003 - Aug 2005, started almost the second Sat. went into Cancer. My natal Saturn is at 29 deg. Gemini but some charts give it as 00 deg. Cancer. So theoretically the last couple of years could kinda have been a mini-Saturn Return for me? What do you think?

Is Pluto done giving me grief? Really done, I mean, not just sort of done?

Uranus CJ natal Venus & Moon I read denotes unconventiality in relationships, but I can't find any info on Jupiter CJ-ing natal IC, except that Jupe is beneficent and IC relates to the 3rd/4th house cusp, which in turn relates to the inner world. You said that you don't know quite what to make of this position: actually I have had a huge crush on somebody for about 2 years now, who says things that are so profound and instinctively knowledgeable that they touch my heart; he seems to understand me completely. He knows I have a crush on him but I'm not sure he really realizes to what extent. In all honesty I can't hope for anything on that score, as he is attached (not married) and I am pretty sure he loves his partner, and probably I am wasting my time adoring him. So whether this transit denotes a wake-up call, or something more, 'twill be interesting to see.

Ah, you picked up on Uranus in my 2nd House - probably what's putting a lot of employers off me!!! Drives my family to the depths of despair - they shan't be ALLOWED to mention it over Xmas, however - I have given them an earful on that score already

Yup, you're absolutely right abt. web design too - costing me an arm & a leg to have my website updated - should learn to do myself - have no choice in the matter, it seems.

How cold is it where you are, I was gonna say, I'm hoping it's not too frosted this week as I need to see some gardening customers (need money).

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astro junkie
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posted December 19, 2005 11:55 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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ariestiger
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posted December 19, 2005 02:42 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ambiguous one, AJ. Love it.

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Happy Dragon
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posted December 20, 2005 11:13 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A.T. ... hi ...

*** How cold is it where you are, I was gonna say, I'm hoping it's not too frosted this week as ... ***

... it changes toooooo often to reply accurately
.. well the freeze feeling was down to wind from the east ( n'owt to do with curries and ale ) .. but it's
changed back to just being coldish and wet .. and grey .. .. i think when the far south had a bunch of snow not too long ago .. so did the far north (although i might be mistaken ) .. ... but here it was .. one day very cold .. next day mild .. ... .. weather in this country is just plain nuts ..

*** ... that I am going to have to get myself Adobe Illlustrator at some point. ***

.. i once in a while .. get around to using vs.6 ..

... i found this book .. by chance .. in a hi-street bookshop ( waterstones ? .. or 'water' something ) .. in anycase ... ... it turned out to be a worth while purchase ... i bought one by the same authors for 'photoshop' .. was loads of help ..

adobe Illustrator "Wow" book http://www.peachpit.com/promotion/2903

... and was having a chat with a cappy mate .. .. just been thru t.Urns squaring his natal Venus for the past 18 months .. i think it came to a 'conclusion' when ( just now ) .. t.Saturn hit his Desc by conjunction .. he got the 'no' answer from a lass .. to a rather serious question .. poor guy was devastated ...

and leonine friend down the street .. is somewhere in the middle of t.Urns to nVenus .. ups 'n downs re romance .. seemingly plenty of sudden new attractions .. but 'nowt steady .. i think his art/music life has had some good events .. i.e. new discoveries for himself .. etc ..

so much for 'up north gossip ...
be well ..

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Lauren
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posted December 20, 2005 11:57 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AT don’t fret ..I'll set you up

So we have..

Bachelor number 1 -

On the bright side, he enjoys climbing buildings and will take you with him.. *yayyyyy*
On the down side, he looks like a bug.. *booooooo*

Bachelor number 2 -

On the bright side he's your classical perfect man and he can fly you of to Paris faster than most planes.. *yayyyyy*
On the down side, he might get cocky.. careful with that evil side, never know when it might pop up.. *boooooo*

andddddd last but not least.. allow me to introduce

Bachelor number 3:

On the bright side, he's tall and has a great smile.. doesn't he? (k so maybe that's just me) *yayyyy*
On the down side, he may kinda umm.. stink a little *yuuuuck*

My apologies to bachelor no. 4 who didn't make the short list, due to suspected vampirical tendencies.. yikes

Sorry Batman, you're still cool, sometimes..


So take your pick schweety, plenty to choose from! lol

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ariestiger
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posted December 21, 2005 04:32 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Thanks, Lauren, I think that's pretty much real life in a nutshell - rest assured I will never look at guys in the same way again

Aha, HD, I see... So maybe I shouldn't expect too much from the Uranus transit (which looks to be another 4 years or so ).

AT

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