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maklhouf
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posted December 24, 2005 10:47 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Till February. what does it mean to YOU?

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And I will give thee the treasures of darkness
Isiah 45:3

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neptune's mermaid
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posted December 24, 2005 10:53 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I should not visit my hairdresser even tho I need to

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maklhouf
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posted December 24, 2005 11:24 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
your hairdresser?

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MoonPixie
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posted December 24, 2005 01:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonPixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i'm gonna be getting myself in even more trouble than usual, that's what it means, lmao.

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MoonDuchess88
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posted December 24, 2005 02:58 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's going back over my Asc....looking good without even trying...

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nove731
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posted December 24, 2005 03:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nove731     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not sure yet, to be honest.

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let ther b light
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posted December 25, 2005 10:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for let ther b light     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey all
need braces due to very strange reasons.......shud i avoid it untill feb???????

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Cardinalgal
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posted December 25, 2005 06:30 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dunno but I had a horrible row with my bf last night - Christmas eve of all days, and the very day that Venus begins reversing like a maniac!

We made it up (rather beautifully actually) but it's left a really nasty taste in my mouth. Made me feel scared and shaken as if I was out of control and careering towards disaster. Dunno what happens next but roll on Venus direct that's all I can say! Keeping my head down until then!

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let ther b light
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posted December 26, 2005 10:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for let ther b light     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey all
today i had a horible taste of wat venus retro cud do..........MOST TERRIBLE.....im a designer...so i guess it makes a lot of difference to me as venus rules things that concern beauty/ fashion..........my sis had to go fr a weddin.........n i had to make something urgently fr her........so i really had to slog my ass off to get everything organized....the embroidery, dyeing.......stitchin.......i managed really well till the part of emb and dyeing........that was till venus was in forward motion .........i gave the skirt to my tailor..........fr it to be stitched............that was when venus went retro.....v altered the skirt at least 8 times without exaggeration........to no avail watsoevr .....it jus did not fit right.........my sis had to make do with sumthin else.......and the whole days work went down the drain...with the money ........very frustratin

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Rede411
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posted December 26, 2005 11:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rede411     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just think I have to pay extra careful attention to communication with loved ones (matters of the heart) ...that and not get married until it turns forward again (NO chance of THAT happeining)

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posted December 27, 2005 12:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stargazer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lol.. moonpixie!! me too! ... natal venus rx in virgo....

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Cardinalgal
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posted December 27, 2005 04:41 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When in Feb does it go direct again?

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Azalaksh
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posted December 27, 2005 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From: http://www.astralis.it/2005rx_pla.htm

HOW TO CONSTRUCTIVELY USE THE VENUS RETROGRADE PERIOD: Lynn Koiner PMAFA

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From DECEMBER 24 2005 through FEBRUARY 3 2006, the planet Venus will be retrograde. The retrograde motion of an inner planet is an apparent phenomena as viewed from earth in which Venus appears to move backwards in the sky. Every 1 ½ years, when Venus moves approximately 29 degrees ahead of the Sun (in the astrological ephemeris), it will begin to move backwards in the sky until it reaches a point approximately 21 to 29 degrees behind the Sun.

When Venus is retrograde, it provides lessons in evaluating the real worth and value of people and things in our life (Taurus-Libra issues). With existing relationships, this cycle produces experiences wherein it is easier to discern the relative worth and value of these people in your life.

Discrimination is more effective. You become readily aware of any problems, differences or unresolved issues. It is NOT a time, however, to act upon any unfavorable awareness. It is purely a time of evaluation rather than direct action. As little frictions and disagreements crop up, they serve to remind you that the relationship is not perfect. Under the retrograde influence, you must assess the severity of the problem and the "cost-benefit" of the relationship. Only after Venus turns direct should you initiate any alienation if this is deemed necessary.

PERSONAL EXPERIENCES:

* During retrograde period in Gemini, I came to the realization that a woman, whose Moon was in Gemini, only valued my friendship as a paying customer and not a true friend. I did not end the relationship but I placed her in the "acquaintance" category.

* The 2004 Gemini transit was surprisingly favorable for relationships in general but a friend with Venus in Gemini in the 12th felt unloved and unappreciated...until Venus turned direct. An advertisement that I bought at the time was a relative loss and, though over-extending myself with too much relating with others, I was exhausted and contracted the Epstein-Barr Virus.

* On the day that Venus turned retrograde in Scorpio, I was able to tell a woman, who had greatly angered me in the past, why I was angry with her - that she was always using me and taking advantage of me. It was different from what she expected and she seemed relieved.

* In Scorpio, I observed a friend being very unkind to an elderly family member. I also observed that she has no patience with people who are ill. While Venus was in Scorpio, I was shocked but I said nothing. Later I knew that this is a great friend whom I care about dearly...but I will just not go to her when I am ill!

* When Venus was in Scorpio, I felt resentful of needy, overly sweet and manipulative people.

* When Venus was Retrograde in Capricorn, I was out of control with eating and my self-esteem was non-existent! A man became very angry when I did not teach astrology classes as I had intended. He took it upon himself to call local astrologers and attack my reputation. While this was disturbing, I became aware of people who did not defend me when he attacked me. I learned who I could trust.

* With regard to financial issues, a store credited 40¢ to my account when I actually paid $40. It took months to straighten this out.

* In Virgo into Leo, I was depressed a lot, feeling alone and isolated and feeling sorry for myself for the most part as Venus retrograded back into my 12th House. Health problems became a major issue for a lot of people. With Venus in Leo, we were very aware that our needs were not being met.

* In Aries, it was entirely different! I attended a conference in Serbia. I met some wonderful people who urged me to get on an E-List and this changed my life. I later learned that many people did not size up my personality correctly. As a 12th House person in the midst of outgoing people, I came across as shy and not very knowledgeable. In later meetings, they were amazed that I was not this way at all. I have subsequently become very good friends with many of the people I met in Belgrad.

*Overall, many people contacted me who I had not seen for a long time. Over and over again with each Venus Retrograde, people re-connected from my past!

Sometimes we do experience relationship difficulties and stresses but, if it is a good relationship, the differences will not affect the quality of association. It is important to realize that, in a relationship, the problems that you experience in the beginning of the union will always be there and only get worse in time. These are the basic differences between you and the other person. You should make an evaluation at the time of Venus retrograde to determine if you can tolerate and understand these differences. I have been through many Venus Retrograde cycles and the good relationships are still with me.

While we can readily distinguish the problems in a current relationship, this will not be true of a relationship formed while Venus is retrograde. Because the retrograde motion alters our perspective, we are unable to see the obvious and we can too easily misread the signals. Before eloping or making wedding plans, wait until Venus turns direct to get a balanced perspective. This Venus does not imply deception but rather a distorted perspective and attitude. Faulty presumptions can be easily made. For example, if you meet someone at the tennis court, it does not necessarily mean that the person likes tennis. Maybe that person was simply there to pick up a friend! These presumptions can cause erroneous evaluations and eventual disappointment when we discover that the person of our dreams is not what we thought at all!

Where there are existing difficulties in a relationship, the retrograde Venus period offers an opportunity for a reconciliation. People are often feeling unloved, unappreciated and disappointed while Venus is retrograde. They feel that they should be getting more out of their relationships. This is particularly true when Venus transits the 7th and 12th Houses. When a person is in a mood that makes them feel that nobody cares, it is an excellent time to make a "hat-in-hand" apology to restore a relationship with someone who is hurt. Any sincere apology will be graciously received. During the 2002 Retrograde, I found it easier to have good heart-to-heart talks with friends, something I really needed to do. My new perspective was the depth of kindness in so many of my friends.

Being the natural ruler of the 2nd House, Venus has dominion over certain financial affairs. This is NOT a good time for investing or starting new financial activities. The value of the product or commodity is often inflated or over-valued so that losses will occur when Venus turns direct. Splurging on substitutes for feeling loved can be costly and paying for this with Capricorn dollars can be difficult! A Capricorn friend has a predilection for making investments while Mercury or Venus are retrograde. Needless to say, the only benefit that he has received is a hefty write-off on his taxes for his losses.

While Venus is retrograde, it is not a time to purchase any so-called luxury items. You will be motivated by impractical considerations so that, what looks gorgeous in the store, may turn out to be the ugliest thing you have ever seen once Venus turns direct! The inclination is to purchase items that you will not like and you cannot return. No discussion of Venus retrograde would be complete without mentioning my redheaded friend who bought a purple coat (on sale - could not be returned) while Venus was retrograde. Another man signed a lease on an apartment with a gorgeous sunken living room. So enamored of its beauty was this man that he did not consider the long-term financial strain. This retrograde does have excellent financial benefits if you know how to use them. First, because people are motivated by impractical considerations in making purchases, it is the perfect time to unload something that no one would buy except when Venus is retrograde. Someone is sure to see its inner beauty and feel that they cannot live without it. They may regret it later but that is not your problem. Working with the inflated value of this Venus transit makes this an excellent time to unload stocks, real estate and unwanted items. Then, use the money gained to pay off debts.

Venus retrograde is an excellent time for buying antiques, flea market items and secondhand goods wherein you know the real worth and value of the item but the seller does not. Years ago when I first studied astrology, I warned my parents about spending excessively on an antiquing trip when Venus was retrograde. To my surprise, they came back with the best bargains! They discovered many valuable antiques with very low prices because the seller did not know their value. Purchasing real estate is not always a problem with Venus retrograde. If you know that the property is a bargain, you can make an excellent deal. Discrimination is essential. Do not be motivated by a flashy appearance.

According to Delphine Jay, who has lectured extensively on retrogrades, she finds that Venus retrograde is a favorable time for re-negotiating a financial situation such as a contract or bank loan. It can be helpful in resolving a long-standing legal matter. When Venus is station (around the retrograde/direct dates), it is a good time to change lawyers.

Mary Shea states that this is a time to reflect on the inner value of your experiences rather than outer display. Material rewards may be delayed and material or possessions that you expect to acquire may not manifest. A luxury item purchased may not please you in the long run. Relationships started now will be associated with inhibitions - clandestine or possibly more spiritual. Something may be withheld and, if so, someone will be disappointed. Existing relationships may be up for review. Outer assurances and displays of love and affection are not readily evident. Old friends and lost loves may be contacted for a second look.

While the favorable transits from Venus retrograde offer an opportunity to benefit from this transit, the afflictions cause us the most difficulty, especially in relationships. The planets involved describe some of these problems. This is a general description of Venus afflicting a natal planet:

Sun: A time of general poor cooperation and hurt feelings. You feel that you do not get the recognition that you deserve. Pride issues can present problems.

Moon: A time of overly sensitive moods and hurt feelings. It someone gets upset with you, back off and allow the mood to pass. The person is over-reacting and irrational. There is nothing that you can really do. Attempts to appease will only make matters worse.

Mercury: A time of sensitivity through disagreement and not seeing eye-to-eye. Hurt feelings with something said. Watch communications on this date.

Venus: A general time of poor cooperation, feeling unloved and unappreciated. The sign that Venus is not transiting will block the sign needs shown by the natal Venus sign position.

Mars: Anger and jealousy can cause relating problems. Someone met at this time will have an unsettling affect upon your life. Hormones rule over reason. Love-hate situation in relating.

Jupiter: This aspect will cause phoniness and role playing in a relationship. If the person seems too nice or if the opportunity seems too good to be true, know that it is an unrealistic situation.

Saturn: Responsibilities and the demands of others will make you feel unloved and unappreciated. Learn to say NO!

Uranus: Unpredictability and erratic behavior in a relationship or an attraction to an unpredictable person is indicated. A very unstable time in both relationships and finances. Emotional upsets, financial problems, rebellious spending.

Neptune: A time of deception and misreading signals. You may be dealing with an ambivalent person. Your own passivity can get you into trouble now. Disappointment in relating.

Pluto: Relating can be intense, controlling and manipulative. Overwhelming behavior can be a signal of attention needs. Back away from any relationship that seems karmic!

Transpluto: Criticism by a perfectionist person will cause a separation and alienation.

Ascendant: Your sense of self-worth, self-esteem and sense of lovability are not good now. You can start to feel sorry for yourself and feel disappointed in others who may not meet your needs...at least, in the manner that you anticipate.

Critical dates for Venus Retrograde: DECEMBER 28-29 2005 and JANUARY 11-14 2006. Watch finances and relationships during these periods as critical issues will likely arise for people in general.

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Cardinalgal
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posted December 28, 2005 05:58 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Zala

Just wondered whether Venus Retrograde in Aqua (as it is I think at the moment?) would have a keener, a different or even an opposite effect on those with a natal Venus retrograde in Aqua?

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GemStar
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posted December 28, 2005 06:55 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Zala! I was desiring to refresh my memory during Venus Retrograde!!

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amisha121877
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posted December 28, 2005 12:09 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.cafeastrology.com/transits_venusretrograde.html

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maklhouf
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posted March 13, 2006 07:59 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good job my radar is working today as the search function isn't. (I just followed the sixes and found my thread!) I found venus retro to be suprisingly helpful. Lots of things came up from the past to help me out in the present. All the more surprising as I have a difficult aspect to natal venus.

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jkxx
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posted March 13, 2006 08:20 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great to hear!

Some things related to Venus also happened to me starting with Christmas and then abruptly changed on the afternoon of Feb 2nd right before the retrograde ended. Crazy stuff.

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