posted December 25, 2005 06:48 PM              

Just wondered if anyone would mind taking a look at my natal chart and having a stab at interpreting it? A good friend of mine was round the other night and we got talking and all of a sudden i was in tears for no more reason than the fact that he understood me That's human I know, but he also said "You cry a lot don't you? In fact you're almost always on the verge of tears and you desperately try to hide it" I am and I do. It bothers me and I suppose I'd just like to try and understand why I've always been so emotional and yet afraid of that emotion. It has been a factor which has threatened certain relationships in my life and I really want to come to terms with it, accept it and be able to handle it properly instead of trying to stifle it or apologise for it in the aftermath of one of my often damaging outbursts whilst wiping up the twin rivers of mascara!

I'm still getting to grips with chart interpretation so would really appreciate the help of anyone who has a better grasp.

No worries if not but many thanks if you would care to offer any insight/advice.

Love to you

AstroText Portrait - Short Edition

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for Sarah (female)
born on 4 Oct 1973 local time 11:45 pm
in Ashford, ENG (UK) U.T. 22:45
0e53, 51n08 sid. time 23:42:26

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Planetary positions
planet sign degree house motion
Sun Libra 11°33'36 04 direct
Moon Capricorn 17°04'28 06 direct
Mercury Scorpio 02°56'06 04/5 direct
Mercury is technically near the end of house 4 and is interpreted in house 5.
Venus Scorpio 24°59'57 05 direct
Mars Taurus 07°37'09 11 retrograde
Jupiter Aquarius 02°21'25 07 direct
Saturn Cancer 04°36'51 12 direct
Uranus Libra 22°40'51 04 direct
Neptune Sagittarius 05°18'32 05 direct
Pluto Libra 04°34'06 04 direct
True Node Capricorn 02°19'47 06 retrograde

posted December 25, 2005 08:24 PM              

short on time .. quick note :

... i can't unravel it all .. but would say the following would play a part ..
.. ( am looking at a chart .. not the list above ) ..

Chiron .. Uranus .. and the Moon .. ... form a T square ...
Saturn in your 12th is in close square to Pluto in 4th
Neptune be in close sextile to Pluto ...
plus you have numerous minor aspects to Neptune
and Pluto ..

Transiting Chiron is presently conjunct your natal Jupiter ..

posted December 26, 2005 04:33 PM              

Sun Square Moon Stuff ....
What people who were born with Sun square Moon in their natal charts want and what they need are in conflict. The Sun square Moon aspect is similar to the Sun opposition Moon aspect in this sense, but there are very notable differences. Whereas the struggle between wants and needs is mostly played out on the inside and through significant relationships with Sun opposition Moon people, Sun square Moon people tend to confront obstacles that come from the outside. In truth, the struggle is within, as it is a case of being "one's own worst enemy". There can be a tendency to attract challenging situations into the life as an unconscious attempt to recreate the tension of early childhood. As well, specific habits and attitudes can hamper their progress in life.

These people generally have a need to achieve and accomplish something important, and they act out their internal struggle along the way. For whatever reason, these people didn't feel needed or accepted. The clash between their parents or parent figures, if indeed there was one, made them feel unaccepted for who they were, and there can be a very real drive to prove themselves to the world (and/or to the parents). The parents may not have simply been opposite personalities, as is the case with Sun opposition Moon. It is more likely that their relationship was a continual struggle. Sun square Moon individuals internalized the tension in the cosmic air that they were born into, and felt out of place as a result. In some cases, they literally felt unwanted by one or both parents. Even if the parents didn't clash, the early life was likely to have been over-stimulating and tense, causing the child to feel insecure.

posted December 27, 2005 12:11 AM              

Since you have most of your planets in the bottom of your chart, you focus on your inner world more than the outer world

Since you have most of your planets on the right of your chart you focus more on others than on yourself

Since most of your planets are on the bottom right of your chart, you use your inner world awareness as a way to build relationships with others

Since you have Moon (home, also emotions) conjunct (energy is combined with) your Descendant (others), you have emotional connections with others. Also, since you work so hard at connecting with others, when you actually DO make a connection, it could be an emotional experience.

More information on basic chart interpretation in the link below.

Charting,

Tim

posted December 27, 2005 04:31 PM              

Blimey Pixie you and I are very alike!! I found it absolutely spot on when you said "I cry easily.. not dramatic, break down tears, but if somehting moves me, I will cry (quietly) and recover pretty quickly too." It's like a pressure valve that needs releasing and once you've done it you feel fine again... until the next thing that sets you off! Cappy Moons of the world unite and pass the tissues!

Happy Dragon thanks so much for the aspect/planetry transit info - I will have a look on astro.com and cafe astrology etc to understand them better

Lilygirl thank you so much!!

"I see you have your mercury trine saturn also which can foster a very focused self contained person" OMG yes!

"In truth, the struggle is within, as it is a case of being "one's own worst enemy". There can be a tendency to attract challenging situations into the life..." I do this all the time practically! And the really stupid thing is that I know I'm doing it and still can't seem to put the breaks on!

The section about parental influences was interesting - I never felt a need to prove myself to either of them but there were marked differences of opinion between us all; Mym mum's Cancer and my dad was Aries so we all squared each other. But with that came a trememdous amount of love which was always openly expressed - I was very lucky with my parents. I suppose because I square myself 3 ways (Sun, Moon, Asc) it's a continuation of that Cardinal trio of me and my parents.

"When they get the autonomy that they seem to crave, they feel unsupported by others. When they receive the support they crave, they feel smothered." That sums me up so perfectly it's uncanny! Situation this morning where I was loading up the car with all the heavy cases and presents from Christmas and felt very stoic and hard done to because no one came to help me, and then when one of them offered I practically stamped on him saying something to the effect of "I can manage thank you! I'm not incapable of lifting a few cases!" I could have kicked myself for being so bloody contrary/rude!

"They are resilient creatures who have faced conflict and who have survived it...." Ooh yes!

Wilsontc you also have it spot on with these insights... "Since you have most of your planets in the bottom of your chart, you focus on your inner world more than the outer world"
"Since you have most of your planets on the right of your chart you focus more on others than on yourself"

Thank you so much to all of you for taking the time and trouble to have a look at my chart and to offer all these amazing insights. I'm really grateful to you and it's helped to sort things into manageable chunks so to speak, in order to look at each reason seperately and understand it.
At the end of the day I'm me and that includes these inner conflicts which I'll just have to accept and get used to; on the other hand, it also includes having a very pronounced sense of fun which does counteract the glums when they do happen to grip me between their claws and squeeze Thank heavens for a sense of humour, but I'm also beginning to see my way clear to being thankful for all these keen emotions too; it makes me try doubly hard to consider other people's feelings

Hope you've all had a lovely Christmas and I wish you all a fabulous 2006! Thanks again

posted December 28, 2005 01:18 PM              

I too know it has a lot to do with your Moon in Capricorn, as well as other things.

The Moon Rules the Sign of Cancer, and Cancer is the Opposite Sign of Capricorn. In other words, the Moon's energy flows the easiest in Cancer, but your Moon is in the Opposite Sign of Capricorn.

But there are other things too, and I wonder if you have a T-Square. A T-Square is where a lot of energies with no place to go build up. If you are able, post the image of your Wheel by going to photobucket.com, and then linking us to it.

And, you have more of what I would consider "restrictive" energies working here. Scorpio is a Sign which prides themselves on their expert "poker face". You have Mercury & Venus in Scorpio. So the vibe you give off while you express yourself (Mercury), and while you subliminally attract things to you (Venus), is a vibe of holding back.

I see even more "restrictive-type" energies as well. Your Mars is in Taurus, a Fixed Sign. Mars is "action", and in Taurus means you act cautiously. So again, you give off that "holding back" vibe.

Also, in the same way that the Moon in Capricorn is in its Opposite home, you also have Saturn in Cancer. Saturn Rules Capricorn, and again, Cancer is the Opposite Sign of Capricorn. Saturn in Cancer can make one suspicious of others, and can make one second-guess themselves A LOT!

And more on Cancer energies ... Cancer is depicted by the symbol of the Crab, and as you know, crabs walk sideways. Your Ascendant is in Cancer, so again, you look like your are withholding something. To top it off, your North Node is in Capricorn. So on the one hand, you appear to others in a Cancerian way, but the place your are "headed towards" in this lifetime(North Node) is Capricorn. Those Opposites can ALSO make you seem like you are trying to withhold something from others.

I think the most important thing is to first try to figure out where you are trying to go. Very much visualize where you want to be in 5 years, that type of thing. What you have working in your favor is TONS of determination. So whatever goal you set, you will acheive.

Just be careful what you wish for ...

As for how to deal with those INTENSE emotions just under the surface, I'd lean towards quiet contemplation. Your Moon is in your 6th House, a very detailed oriented House. Your Sun is in your 4th House, a very domesticated House. Your Saturn is in the 12th House, a very introspective House.

You are very comfortable analyzing yourself, your situation, where you are in life. But remember to just LET LOOSE sometimes. Your Mercury & Venus are in the 5th House, which is a very fun-loving House. Also, your Jupiter is in your 11th House, so you WILL have influence over the masses. But you will probably do so through conviction rather than through some kind of power trip.

So keep your introspective side alive. Have reverence for what you discover along the way, and know you're in it for the long haul. If you have issues with your home environment, try to gain as much independence on that front as you can.

Hope that helps. Please let me know if anything hits close to the mark. I could be totally wrong, but those were my impressions.

posted December 28, 2005 06:10 PM              

You have explained everything so succintly and so plainly that it makes perfect sense. The whole "holding back" appearance is so true! People have sometimes accused me of this and being someone who makes such an effort socially, (primarily because I am quite shy in reality and I mask it with gregariousness and as much Libran charm as I can muster so as not to be rude!) I have struggled to understand why they've labelled me in that way. Now I do. I can see that I close off at certain points so as to bar access to my real feelings; they are often so deep and so poigniant that I feel as though they might choke me let alone any poor unsuspecting bystander!

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I think the most important thing is to first try to figure out where you are trying to go.

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Now that is the question! I have glimpses of what I want but that's all they ever seem to be; mere glimpses. I must have had 3 or 4 career changes since I was 21 as everything I 'think' I want to do turns out to be a passing fascination. I'm a great starter, but I just seem to lose momentum half way through and never finish the job. Currently for example, I have 2 novels unfinished and several short stories on the go with a face but no feet. Writing however seems to be the only thing that I've ever really connected with - it's the only constant in my life to date; the only thing that I find continuosuly stimulating, so I'd like to be writing certainly in 5 yrs time. I dearly hope I'm still with my present partner as I feel despite our differences (our Mars/Venus squares etc god help us!) that we are meant to work something through together, and because I adore him, it would be lovely if all that working through took a lifetime And I would love to have a child with him, which I have a strong instinct we shall. A girl I think - don't know why but that's the vision I get when you ask me about 5yrs hence.

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Also, your Jupiter is in your 11th House, so you WILL have influence over the masses. But you will probably do so through conviction rather than through some kind of power trip.

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Now that's something I'd like to learn more about. Can you tell me more about 11th house Jupiter placements or where I might find the info? I would love to help people, and preferably through writing? I wonder if that may be a possibility with this placement?

posted December 28, 2005 06:48 PM              

As for Jupiter in your 11th House, I was giving you a very general interpretation. There is much more to it, and I'll try to get a link to more on that. But basically, Jupiter Rules expansion, travel, and higher learning. The 11th House is very much a social House and the home of the Sign of Aquarius. That's how I came to that. You will have influence over many people. It will help keep you optimistic.

I don't see anything offhand which would contribute to your not completing things you start. But all those energies I talked about before may be why. Visualize the Crab. Try to go about your goals with quiet contemplation, yet be direct and consistent. Remember, you're in it for the long haul.

Also, your MC (Midheaven), which is also the same as your 10th House Cusp and deals with "career" issues, is in Pisces. This may contribute as well to any lack of motivation you may feel. But on the good side, it makes you attracted to the arts.

Also, don't be afraid to be mysterious to others. You don't have to explain yourself. And be careful for those who smile in your face, but who are really jealous, as sometimes people get when they sense something exceptional about someone.

Here's just one interpretation of Jupiter in the 11th :::

"Eleventh House
Jupiter in the eleventh house suggests that the planet plays an important part shaping the outcome of your hopes and wishes. This placement also relates to your friends and associates, indicating that you are very fortunate in developing strong friendships that benefit you in a variety of ways. You are a natural organizer and planner of large scale activities. Much of your achievements are as a result of the backing of your many supporters. Politicians often have this placement."

www.astrology-numerology.com/inhouses-jupiter.html