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Author Topic:   Rectified Ascendants anyone? Or sag risings?
sthenri
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posted December 26, 2005 03:38 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes I know this subject has been done, and rectified is a strange word, but!
Has anyone had this done and do you agree with the results? I am said to be Scorpio rising instead of Sag by major events-

now the astrologer who did this was right about everything else so far-

Does anyone here have a Sag rising, so I can ask questions?

Thanks,
Natasha
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Rede411
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posted December 26, 2005 03:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rede411     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well....my daughter has a Sag Rising but considering she's only 5....I'd say you'd prolly have to wait on that one...LOL

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boo
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posted December 26, 2005 04:19 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am.
Whaddya wanna know?

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LILYGIRL
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posted December 26, 2005 04:19 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Natasha,

I have Sag Rising


... (Gem Sun and Mercury, Taurus Venus, Aries Moon & Mars, Neptunne Singleton in Scorpio with Scorpio ruling both my 11 & 12 Houses)

Whatz up?

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Planet_Soul
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posted December 26, 2005 04:33 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Sag rising in the later degrees... I had my chart recertified once, and the astrologer came up with.... Aqua Rising???? Anyway, I'm here for any Saggy questions you may have.

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sthenri
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posted December 26, 2005 06:28 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi, now that I see who responds I think maybe I do have Sag rising after all.

I am doubtful, a sixth house sun.

Anyway-What do you do for a living, and what do you want to do?
Are you attracted to Leos and Aries or those who have 1st house suns or sun singletons? Do you tend to be attracted to insane situations such as mountain climbing or extreme sports, are you a fighter? Or do you prefer cuddling up in front of a fire at home.

Do you let people come to you, or do you talk first? And do you hold grudges?

My problem is that it doesn't affect any other planets, so I could easily have Neptune in Scorpio ruling the 12th and the 1st, or just the 12th and things remain pretty much the same. With Sag, I have Mars conjunct Ascendant-already people tell me I am powerful and strong minded, and others tend to give me their power too easily.

Thanks,
Natasha
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Cancer Moon/8th

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lioneye68
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posted December 26, 2005 08:51 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi, Natasha
As you know, I have Sagittarius rising. But I've often wondered if it was off, and maybe I'm Scorpio rising, just because I tend to be obsessive about people, and also because I'm so fascinated by the occult. But, I suppose my Sun/Mercury/Mars in the 8th could explain that. Of course it does.

But I've read so much about Sag rising, and alot of it doesn't seem to fit me - while much of it does.

If you're attracted to crazy things like rock climbing, sky diving, ect...that's your Mars in the 1st, sweetie. Living life on the edge. Getting a daily dose of adreniline. Going out and taking what you want, and welcoming the challenges that you encounter. Taking the initiative. Saying what needs to be said, and feeling fecken good about it. I see that in you.

You're much too direct and open to be Scorpio rising, in my opinion.

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sthenri
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posted December 26, 2005 09:03 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks lioneye, good things do seem to come my way when I am like that. Do you find it's true for you?

I do wish I was less blunt, and more charming!
I try to remember that Princess Di had Sag rising, as well as Elvis, and Elizabeth Taylor, so we can be charming too, but it sure feels like I am the hard one in the house these days.

Today I received a christmas card from an ex cancer b/f, it is very subtle and mysterious, how unlike me. It makes me wonder what if? although I am normally attracted to more driven men, he's a teacher, and low key.

This Cancer made me feel whole again after the break up with the gemini, he taught me to trust him and it was emotionally satisfying to be near him. he is however, rooted here and I am moving, plus he is all over the place with his activities-

Are you ever in and out of love?
I do not like anyone who is fickle and when I am like this is because I truly believe there is a fate/strong pull I can't resist. Would you say it's normal to love many people?

Natasha

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lioneye68
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posted December 26, 2005 09:31 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Of course it's normal. I love almost everyone I meet. Everyone has something about them that makes them worthy of love to a Jupiter person. But when you're single, it's harder to catagorize HOW you should love them. Every man is possibly "THE ONE", but most aren't. Those ones are hard to find for sure.

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sthenri
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posted December 26, 2005 10:03 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes but does it irritate you when someone else is flirty, and you do the same? Maybe you don't do this but I can't stand not loving someone/not being loved, at the same time I find some people magical at certain times. This cancer for example has the most magical skin, it's as if it's really there and I'm not, and he makes everything around him seem real and bright. It's almost as if I am changing around him into someone who can see every inch of his body exposed to me.

I am hyper aware all the time and it's not attraction, I don't know what it is. It makes me feel a bit like I am losing it. He has a Taurus moon which I find to be very physical, it is possible that i want him physically but do not love him?

In a way I find that sad because I want him to feel the same but I believe he sees me more in a sentimental caring way.

I also have Jupiter, Pluto and Uranus
trine Sun.

Has anyone struck you that way?
What happened between cancer and me was this. I found out he was dating a Leo I was working with and I became unhappy. So the last time we were together watching a movie, I asked if he felt angry that I had never been naked with him and he said yes. He said he always felt led on and believed that I had the upper hand. So I went in the other room put on a robe and came back and flashed him. After that I asked him to leave and never called him again. He must have thought I had lost my mind. At the time it seemed rational.

Now of course he sends me this mysterious card after I make such a fool of myself. No other man sent me anything but him and he is the person I would least expect anything from. I feel sad because I have treated him badly in some way.

Natasha

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Planet_Soul
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posted December 26, 2005 11:55 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I guess I'd be thrown off as well, unsure of what to expect. I think I'd just go with the flow and see what happens. Btw, I don't think you made a fool out of yourself. More like oyu acted out on impulse, felt right in that moment.
Ok, back to the astro lingo. I also have Mars c. Ascendent in Sag 12/1 cusps. Honestly, I don't think I'm a good canidate for extreme sports. I love adrenline rushes, but I've grown to be afraid of heights. Oddly, I used to climb trees and jump off roof tops as a child. As I've grown up, this fear of heights thing hassettled in. Other than that, I love thrills. Things such as taking risks and getting my own way give me an odd rush. I'm also fascinated with the desire to learn how to ride a motorcycle. When I get over my fear of heights I also want to learn rock-climbing and go to Yosemite. I am a big nature lover
Yes I consider myself a fighter. I will mope about things not going my way, but I will pick myself up and get with it. I live for taming challenges. I am into men who are similar in this way. I have no patience for someone who expects rewards to be handed out on a platter. I admire go getters who know hwat they want and get it.

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bullhead
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posted December 27, 2005 01:19 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sag rising here, i love challenge n' get bored easily
i can be very blunt with my love ones but not socially
always belive things will work out by itself eventually
could be very navie sometimes
hate to be fenced down, etc....

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Peri
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posted December 27, 2005 03:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, let me ask you, what is more important to you in intimate relationships: communication or material security?

My mom is a Leo with Cappy Moon and Sag ASC. Her 8 house stellium together with Sun there and Cappy Moon make her very quiet and kind of reserved, she has always preferred to listen not to speak; but she always complained that my dad had never really talked to her. In her opinion, communication is vital for happy marriage.

If you had a Scorpio ASC, your needs would be much more Taurean in close relationship, nice things and comfort would make you feel secure not communication;

What do you think?

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freebird
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posted December 27, 2005 08:45 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok another Sag rising here but I have Scorp Sun : so I am not sure how useful it would be but still I am going to answer your question one by one...

Anyway-What do you do for a living, and what do you want to do?

I teach, act and travel. Teaching is an Art.I think it's more of theaterics.What I want to do I want to actually do many things from management to travel more.


Are you attracted to Leos and Aries or those who have 1st house suns or sun singletons?

I am not sure haven't been checking to the 1 st house and singletons.
Attracting to Leos and Aries,maybe there is attraction but later I can't stand them when I can start seeing how much showy leos can be and with bad Aries temper or pushiness.(I guess my sun and moon can't deal with them later) I get along with Sags though a lot. I have friends who are Sags and whom I would love to be back with.


Do you tend to be attracted to insane situations such as mountain climbing or extreme sports, are you a fighter?

I love all the extreme sports and recently I have been learning skating on roller blades and it has been best thing happening.
Mountain Climbing and water sports seems so much fun.


Or do you prefer cuddling up in front of a fire at home.

I woudl love to cuddle up in front of fire for sometime.

As long as I am doing something. I am always doing plenty of things unknowingly. Like keeping laundary in washing machine, then fixing dinner then checking e-mails. Go back check and sometimes I won't finish my laundry from morning to evening. But then that's when I am in lazing around mood.
I always need some kind of entertainment even when I am working.


Do you let people come to you, or do you talk first? And do you hold grudges?

If I find them nice I would talk to them but either I should be introduced or feel comfortable by their presence.
If I am introduced to someone I would start talking and try to know more.
If I see and really can't think of anyone against whom I have a grudge.I don't hold grudges. I am Scorp Sun so well Sag rising helps not to show the grudge but back of my mind I just don't forget who hurted me.

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boo
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posted December 27, 2005 11:29 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a Cancer Sun and Cappie moon to boot.
I really dont feel like a Cappie mooner. I am not ambitious and I the consequenves of my actions are most often subservient to the experience itself.
I love people and strike up a rapport with most everyone I meet...then freak out when they try and get too close.
Thing is I find close relationships exhausting and can count on 2 fingers those I feel 100% comfortable with.

I love travelling.
I love eating out.
I dont hold grudges.
And most off all I love the chase. Which is why I can relate more to the descriptions of a Saggie moon.

As for my aspirations in life, I just want to create my ideas.

Have a look at this:
planet sign
Sun Cancer 8th
Moon Capricorn 2nd
Mercury Gemini 7th
Venus Gemini 7th
Mars Libra 11th
Jupiter Scorpio 11th
Saturn Libra 11th

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LILYGIRL
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posted December 27, 2005 12:14 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyway-What do you do for a living, and what do you want to do?

Write, research, artisan with own studio.

Are you attracted to Leos and Aries or those who have 1st house suns or sun singletons?

Leos come to me but I serve strictly as mentors in those relationships. The two Leos girls who I am friends with are very emotional, sweet but needy.

Aries are completely in and around my life. Of the five or six people I have the most social contact with 3 are Aries (w/moderate to generous water in their charts) and 3 are Geminis (also w/substantial water in their charts, i.e my older Sister is my best friend; she and I share identical gemini sun and mercury placements (her sun at 6 gem and her mer at 0 gem--I reverse with my sun at 0 gem and my merc at 6 gem) BUT!! her Mars is Cancer and her Venus is also Cancer!! Moon is Pisces. She is married to an Aries sun with Pisces Mercury and Venus Aries. They verbally spar alot but they are pasasionately in love after five years of marriage. He uncategorically worships her...)

I have had too close Sag friends and my son is a Sag.. I love them but they wear me out badly. The SUNS are quite hyper and very intense. I do adore and respect immensely their optimism; and they are not cry babies. I despise whining and constant hurt and complaint. It is very enervating.

Do you tend to be attracted to insane situations such as mountain climbing or extreme sports, are you a fighter?

I love all the extreme sports but I do not actively partiicpate in them now that I have children and only moderate life insurance. LOL. I love the idea of flying jet planes, bungee jumping ...

Or do you prefer cuddling up in front of a fire at home.

I have my Venus in Taurus so yes cuddling in front of a fireplace, with mohair blanket...

Do you let people come to you, or do you talk first?

Gemi Sun/Merc. I will pretty much talk to anyone. If I am in quiet recharging mood the persons must come to me. I sometimes handle strangers better than love ones. LOL. Typical air... In my single days, I never dated a man who flirted alot though I always seem to be dating men who other women adored. I flirt more now than I did as a young girl. I know how to do it well now.

And do you hold grudges?

I do not hold grudges. Period. I are fairly emphatic about pushing away draining situations. For my soul, a grudge is the ultimate drain. Revenge is a drain. If someone devastates me or a loved one, they are basically dead. They are an idea but they don't really exist as part of my activities. I can shelf a person.


My Pisces Chiron is in 3. My Scorpio Neptune rules 11 and 12. and apparently it makes aspects (many inconjuncts) to all of my relationship planets so I have been informed that I can worship those who I love and imbue them with all sorts of beautiful traits they may or may not actually own. I am apparently attracted to gifted healers and those who require healing. I think much of that is true. I am affectionate, very forgiving and no, rarely paronoid, possessive or suspicious. I require alot of emotional breathing room, am fiercely loyal but cheat sometimes in my head. Hey welcome to humanity.

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posted December 27, 2005 01:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Isolaede     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi there Natasha:

I’m in a touch position because I fall in the super early degrees of Sag (2 degrees) and have often questioned whether or not a Scorpio ascendant would be a better fit for me. But since Sag is my official ascendant let me answer your questions as best I can:

What do you do for a living, and what do you want to do?

I work as a Microsoft Exchange administrator. Which means in laymen’s terms: I’m the geek in the closet that keeps e-mail running for an organization. As for what I’d like to do – I love my current job, but I could see moving more into a computer development/programming role. I’ve also in my more insane moments tossed around the idea of completely revamping my life and pursuing a degree in psychology.

Are you attracted to Leos and Aries or those who have 1st house suns or sun singletons?

The answer to this would be a resounding no. I seem to magnetize Leos, Aries, and Sag’s to me, but I’m not attracted to them (except maybe Sag’s). I think there’s a part of me that recognizes their power to burn me. I’ve always been oddly accepted and adopted by Leos. They like to take me under their wing. And Aries men and I get along splendidly. Sag’s are just goofy and loveable – I’ve never met one I didn’t get along with, and I even dated one for a time.

Do you tend to be attracted to insane situations such as mountain climbing or extreme sports, are you a fighter? Or do you prefer cuddling up in front of a fire at home.

I’m a mix. I love the idea of taking up new and exciting hobbies. I don’t know about “extreme” but I do like trying new things. Surfing is my current interest but I’ve tried rock climbing, bungee jumping, hiking, camping, and many others in the past. Cuddling up in front of the fire is a must for me too though. I need my down time. My idea of heaven is cuddling up near a nice warm fire, with some popcorn, a soft blanket, a good movie, and the arms of the man I love around me.

Do you let people come to you, or do you talk first? And do you hold grudges?

People generally come to me. I’m far to shy to approach them. And when I’m approached, I rarely talk so much as I ask questions. I prefer to listen. And I guess I do hold grudges. It feels less like a grudge though and more like a memory of being burned. I generally don’t seek vengeance, I just remember, and never let the people that hurt me close enough to hurt me again. I’m very good at cutting people completely out of my life. I’m FAR more likely to seek vengeance for hurts given to those I care for than to myself.

If I were you I'd give that Cancer a call, Natasha. Don't think of him as a potential relationship for now - just touch bases with him. See how his life is going. Show a little care. Where you go from there... who knows? This guy sounds like someone you have unfinished business with. I think it would be healing for both of you to re-establish contact.

{{HUGS}}

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sthenri
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posted December 27, 2005 05:42 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks but I am leaving and he never goes on vacation in NYC-
he's visiting his Mom in London right now-
Plus I am not even sure it's from him now-I doubt my own mind, since he signed with an initial only.

It's cruel to lead myself on when I am leaving town, I can't marry him or settle down in this area,

Thanks though.

Regarding Scorp, I have been told that I have that unsettling stare, and it unsettled a few men today at work. I wish it was a benefit.

Natasha

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astro junkie
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posted December 28, 2005 12:07 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome boo

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villy
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Neptune - Sag - 1 (Ascend)
Sun - Pisces - 4
Moon - Aries - 5
Venus - Aries - 4
Mars - Cancer - 8

What do you do for a living, and what do you want to do?
I am working as a IT consultant. Umm Being a Piscean it wud be a tough question, what do I want to do.
Maybe I can answer what I wud like to do - travel to natural beautiful places, away from din (people).

Are you attracted to Leos and Aries or those who have 1st house suns or sun singletons?
Didn't had many instances to get attracted, so you can ignore this though I am answering - Once was attracted to an Aries gal and one Leo gal was probably having a liking towards me. Also my Leo niece (Kid) might have special corner for me.

Do you tend to be attracted to insane situations such as mountain climbing or extreme sports, are you a fighter?
I would surely love to have outdoor activities. Extreme sports might be bit stringent, still if I feel it would be comfortable for me, I might want trying it out.
Fighter, probably not of confronting type (Pisces Sun - going with the flow). However I do fight situations at mental level. Also few times taken upon others if I feel I am RIGHT or I really get boiled up.

Or do you prefer cuddling up in front of a fire at home.
Surely I would love to cuddle up (again Piscean)

Do you let people come to you, or do you talk first?
Let people come to me. Not so open (Piscean Sun/Cancerian Mars). Talking first wud be only for a specific reason, for which I would have already thought of how to get what I want without going to the new person Still I would not be afraid to approach a new person if need be.

And do you hold grudges?
No (Might be due to Piscean Sun and Aries Moon). Even if I get hurt, it doesn't turn into a grudge. I would understand the situation and be away from the person/situation and avoid getting into that mode of getting hurt. (Like Isolaede mentioned)

I think Receiving card from ex Boyfrnd would be due to current Venus retrograde

Contd .... (dont know why the reply is not getting posted)

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villy
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posted December 29, 2005 09:26 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Contd ...(finally got it posted - I guess there is some word limit per reply - why doesn't it say so, as I have been trying to figure out what the heck is happenning out here)

Are you ever in and out of love?
Didn't had many chances, however current situation is something very much similar to yours.
Not love, probably attraction for a Sagi colleague who is already happily married. There are no what so ever hints from other end, still don't know why I sometimes get feelings that she might have a soft corner and maybe bit flirty (felt that few days ago, right now there is no flirtations). I try to avoid speaking to her, however in forcing to do that, my mind again fills with the same thoughts. And she also finds some pretext to start a conversation (As if we don't talk once a day, it wud be like something missing from life) ... Its very awful state for me as I have no intentions of making the relation deeper. Maybe Body needs causing heart to generate the attraction feelings (like you said wanting physically/emotionally but not to the extent of love). I keep fighting within myself ... tough time for me ... Hope somehow I drive all these thoughts from my mind or somehow situation changes so that both physical and mental distance between us increase.

Speaking about Sagis, she is also a Sagi and very outgoing person - cheerful, energetic, career oriented professional (though having a kid). Maybe she being a Sagi is the reason why she probes me into conversation. I mean she would feel so odd to sit with a colleague who doesn't speak so much and not so open, causing her curiosity to go up and due to her Sagi nature she goes into probing mode (unfortunately I am getting wrong thoughts )

Not so social, and always try to avoid hurting others feelings (Piscean Sun). Still sometimes I become blunt (probably piscean sarcasm) in conversation

Natasha, whatsoever reasons of you leaving the town, however if a relation turns out well I would surely give preference to the relationship. I mean you don't have to decide it 'now', whether u two wud get married and settled out in that area. If the relationship progresses well, you wud get the solutions automatically. I would just say, Go with your heart

V

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marsconjunctmercury
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posted December 29, 2005 09:50 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sthenri email me your place and time and my programme will work it out.
Adam

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Sun, Mercury, Venus, Neptune in Sagittarius. Moon in Leo. Mars in Scorpio. Cancer rising. Jupiter in Pisces... You get the picture...

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posted December 30, 2005 08:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for steelrose     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Nat!!!

I'm a Sag rising... I also have other strong Sagittarian influences, so the effect of the Ascendant could be reinforced by those... I mean, my Sagittarian behaviour could be due to something else...

I love anything foreign, I get really curious about everything different... I'm always exploring, expanding my life experiences and knowledge boundaries, as far as my Saturn in the 8th allows... I get bored easily... I'm naturally good with foreign languages, I love travelling to unknown places and tasting exciting exotic food...

I believe in my strong set of values and I live by them. I'm highly principled.

Hmmm... Not a risk taker... I like excitement but not danger, I enjoy "measured risks"... I'm a Virgo after all... I don't just jump into adventures carelessly, I ensure it's safe before jumping into the unknown.

I'm naturally shy but I don't give that impression... I appear as funny and talkative, friendly and easygoing... even when I'm measuring every inch... A Virgo with a Sag wrapping...
Sometimes I realise I can be a bit blunt... I'm witty and sharp due to my Virgo Merc and sometimes my comments come out in the inappropriate moment... and may result unintentionally hurtful...

Highly energetic, always pushing forward and fighting for things, an achiever and a bad loser (Jupiter conj Mars).

Yes, attracted to Aries and Leos... My life is full of them...

No, never in and out of love easily... That must be Venus conjunct Saturn...

I need independence... I understand why you are reluctant to tie yourself up to a guy, no matter how special he is... But losing your freedom is a major issue, isn't it? You just can't conceive being tied to a place, to a set of people, to a kind of life, for the rest of your life... Same here... It unsettles me, it feels like being trapped...

I hope it helped...

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posted December 30, 2005 09:35 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
marsconjunctmercury, what is your email address?

villy, pisces is such a go with the flow sign-I felt with the Cancer, that I wanted something more, something stated as I get into trouble assuming there is more when there is not. The Cancer is this case is gone part of the year visiting family-his family is everything-and I was second place on holidays-then he made it obvious he would never leave town-his mother left him her house in this city-he can't afford to buy on his own-

So I can't stay here as I am selling my house as I shared it with my last relationship-and the job market here is terrible-So I don't see how anything but heartache can come of pursuing a man who wants everything to just work out-when I am struggling to understand how to do that on my own. He saw it as a thing we worked on together, but he wasn't around enough for me emotionally, mentally, physically to feel confident of "us". I need a great deal of reassurance.

It's very likely your Sag woman at work is flirting with you, because I have known Sag women to leave their husbands if they find someone who cares about feelings-often they will pick a man for security and become happy on the outside, and then choose a man who is more feeling driven. But like you said, just because she is there does not make it a good situation for you!

Hi Steelrose, I don't mind being tied down anymore, to a career, a place, even a home, but not to an individual man unless I see certain emotional signs, and even then that love can change. Maybe when I am more committed happily to everything in my life, I will attract a confident and mature love.

Natasha

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lalalinda
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posted December 30, 2005 10:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello Natasha,

This is the best thread I've seen in a long time

Sag rising here, I do cocktails in a large Casino for a living, not very Sagitarean but I deal with a lot of foriegners and have a knack for languages (a Sag trait) OK its limited to "I love you" but what the hay

I'm naturally competitive and have a natural aim, I can hit almost anything if I just do it and not think about it. (another Sag trait)

My Sun is trined my Asc. a lot of fire so no I usually don't find Aries attractive (because I am one), besides somebody has to rule and it isn't going to be them

I take calculated risks (Moon and Venus in Taures) I'm not as spontaneous as I used to be, I've calmed down quite a bit since my youth but I'm still a little high strung.

I'm a little too independant (Sun and Asc.)for some signs and by choice I'm raising my family alone. I prefer it like this but then again there is always someone looking to move in.

Beauty fades but personality doesn't so if the first thing you see from someone is a smile chances are you're going to like that person.(another Sag trait)

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