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lovely lioness
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posted December 30, 2005 09:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lovely lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It seems to be endlessly bothering me in the back of my mind. I've tried everything and nothing seems to work. writing, calling, trying to talk one last time--and still no response. I guess there is nothing left to do, butI don't want to leave there to be bad vibes. It hurts so much that he is being so cold toward me when all I want to do is make peace and wish him the best.

anyone have any insight into his chart?
are there are clues as to why he would act like this? He has a lot of Pisces in his chart with a few 12th house placements...but he has Aries Rising and a Gemini Moon...I don't know. I'm confused.
help would be greatly appreicated.

thank you!


his info:
2/21/1983
las vegas, NV
8:37 AM

my info:
8/11/1982
Akron, OH
8:47 AM

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villy
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posted December 31, 2005 05:02 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I dont have background of what has happened out here, however I think he may not be interested in having the relationship. He might think that acting cold would make the goody thoughts that you might have for him, go away.
Besides that it could be due to Venus retrograde affect.

I too am acting cold on someone towards whom I am getting attracted. And reason for acting cold is though I have an attraction, I don't want any relation with her (due to other xyz reasons) and if I don't act cold I feel that it would cause both of us get more involved. Maybe something similar in ur pisces case.
I will be cold knowingly as I don't want to get into a relation where I can't give my commitment.

Hope this helps. Take care and HAPPY NEW Year
V

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MoonDuchess88
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posted December 31, 2005 10:24 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, he has the same b-day as my sister,same moon, different year though

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LILYGIRL
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posted December 31, 2005 10:52 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Lioness,

I pulled his chart up, and can you say take a deep breath.

These are the aspects that caught my eye:

Venus closely conjuncts Mars--which can be full of artistic grace and expression. it can act as an amazing attractor. It can give a great deal of charisma coupled with assertion in love and relationship. But note that this conjunct is not only in Pisces but in the 12th house which may confer all sorts of passivity and secret feelings and behaviors. This is blatantly exacerbated by the square to Neptune. The Neptune not only squares the Venus but the Mars. So he MAY be grappling with repressed sexual desires, sexual anxiety and fears and deception, possible dishonesty and duplicity around issues of love and sex.

Also notice the Pluto and Saturn close knit bond in the 7th House. Saturn in 7th carries its own seriousness and restrictions but with Pluto you get a fierce focus, reserve, tenacity. Self disicipline and an ability to make a decision and stick with it (ie not speaking to someone).

Sun square moon in terms of sign---Wide Square aspect but still I would expect the usual turmoil and inner stress associated with this aspect.

Let me also say something about Pisces men. I think they are incredibly complex and in their best state insightful, brilliant, compassionate and loving; in their worse: elusive, escapist and completely unaware of their own ability to emotionally destroy another human being. Through stark avoidance of confrontation they can dessimate a heart with the precision of a prominent (but gone all wrong)cardiologist and never look back or quite comprehend that sin.

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Lei_Kuei
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posted December 31, 2005 11:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lei_Kuei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"completely unaware of their own ability to emotionally destroy another human being."

Lol... too true

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lovely lioness
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posted December 31, 2005 01:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lovely lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thank you very much villy and lilygirl!

what you both said sounded exactly like my Pisces! no matter how long he trys to avoid me, he always ends up willing to talk to me again sooner or later...but it always seems to happen eventually. I've always thought we've had intense heavy karma that draws us back together.

I actually talked to him last night and told him that I was suffering and so was he so why can't we just make peace with each other. He told he he could make peace with me, but it won't change his suffering. *sigh* I don't know, it's like he wants to cling on to it. I am trying to move on with no bad feelings...I am finally able to get over all the hurt I've been through with the Pisces and am happy..I even met a Gemini last December and we're talking about getting married....we've been playing this game for years...on again/off again...he wants to be my friend, then he says he doesn't..it's very draining for me. I just want things to be cool and for us to be friends if we can..if not, then one last time to talk to him to settle everything doesn't seem like too much to ask. But maybe it's too much for him to handle. he can be very melodramatic, so I don't know. I'll always love and care about him, I just hope we can work something out.

thanks again for your help and have a very HAPPY NEW YEAR! xo

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funkyaquarianpixie
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posted December 31, 2005 01:51 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe its best to make peace with yourself and just walk away? Send him Healing and part the ways.

it seems like the more attention you give this guy the more it holds you in the past...

Pixie

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lovely lioness
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posted December 31, 2005 06:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lovely lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thank you Pixie, that has crossed my mind as well.

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villy
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posted January 01, 2006 04:38 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think he might be under turmoil due to the separation. Pisces overcoming hurt won't be so simple and quick (could be years). Which might be quiet difficult for a piscean if he still has feelings for you. He would be thinking of various reasons of what has occurred (separation/hurt) and going over them again-n-again. If it was love between u two, he cud have thoughts like - How cud love be gone, is love so fragile to go away OR there was no love in first place. I guess a Piscean would be very idealistic of love, romance. Once Pisces commits to a relation, they might take it very seriously and would hold on to the commitment to their heart-n-life. And they might expect the same from their partners. Its like all their dreams which appeared to be a reality with the relation are shattered which can never be built again. There is a difference between their normal dreams (wishy ones) and the dreams which they think could be a reality. Pisceans (water sign) emotions run deep deep down.

So thats why even if you two make peace (frankly I didn't get what you meant by peace) he won't be able to take you 'just a friend' but something more. The reason could be he still has love for you and being friends with someone you love is beyond his understanding (you can say Mine as I too had a separation and it was hurting to understand her statement that lets be friends. Its still irritates me understand how can I be just a friend with the person whom I love and the person also had loved earlier ...)
He wanting to be a friend and then not a friend - Wanting to be a friend at some moment might be due to he trying to understand the situation and thinking that you might be happy by being a friend & also he wud not loose you completely by being a friend. Then not being a friend might be due to above reason I mentioned that how could he be just a friend.
I think he might cling on to the suffering for long time unless something else takes place in his life to remove that hurt.
Yes it is too much for him to handle. If you have no intention of being something which he wants, then its a pity that nothing can work out here.
Frankly if you have nothing left for him, its no point making peace. Either you be with him completely (if you still got something for him) or if you don't have anything for him, just leave him (as Pixie mentioned).

May the New year bring lots of Love, Peace and Happiness to both you and your Pisces.

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pinkfairy
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posted January 01, 2006 04:55 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
O
dear
I have
known
of several
fishes
who just
do not
listen

almost
as stubborn
as the
bull
I
might
add

but more
prone to
drain

dont
you
think
?

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lovely lioness
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posted January 01, 2006 07:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lovely lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thank you again villy, very much for helping. I think you are right.

By 'make peace' I just meant I wanted to confront the situation and put it to rest in a peaceful way and leave each other's lives on good terms (if possible). Didn't mean to confuse you. I like to remain friendly towards old loves because I always think it is such a shame to share all this time with someone then, just dismiss them out of your lives as if they mean nothing--or the love/memories you had didn't exist. I can't do it. People are too important to me. Maybe it's my Venus in Cancer or Taurus Moon.
Or maybe it has to do with the fact that he was my first love and I've known him since I was 14 (I'm 23 now). We have a history. Like I said if nothing else, I'd like to be on good terms because I know we cannot be more than friends.

It hurts a little that he cannot be my friend, but at the same time I understand why he keeps a distance.

thank you again villy for the kind wishes, I hope you have a wonderful new year...and I can only hope the year brings some joy or enlightenment to the Pisces.

pink, I agree with you.

xxoo

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