posted January 01, 2006 05:22 PM              

ABSOLUTELY NO WAY!!!!!!!

If he has:

1. Mercury Sq Jupiter - LIE! LIE! LIE!!!
Not to offend anyone, but I hv yet to see a chart of one who is truthful. Mercury sq or opposed to Jupiter lie for no reason at all. They love to exaggerate minor and major details, w/ complete confidence that no one will ever suspect that they are lying. They can be terribly insincere. I would nvr date a man w/ this in his chart, I could never believe anything he says, and it would be too drama at some point. This is a clear cut sign of the pathological liar.

2. Chiron sq/opposed to Moon - Dating a man whom has this in his chart is asking for trouble! Men whom are born w/ this configuration hv issues w/ trusting women, most likely stemming from the relationship w/ their mother. However, the relationship w/ the mother need not be a turbulent one, but the intrinsic wounding that is present in the soul of this individual WILL manifest in his attitude toward women and the way in which he relates to them. If your sweetheart has this in his chart, hopefully he is mature enough (after his Saturn Return) to hv psychologically dealt w/ his women issues.

3.) The Quendecile Aspect (165 degree angle) btw any of his sexual panets (Venus, Mars, Uranus, & Pluto) OR btw planets that rule his sexual houses, his 5th or 8th house. WHOA!!! This guy is probably obsessed with getting it! He will take it however it comes, however he can get it! He will hv an unhealthy obsession with sex, and most likely the inabitlity to use common sense to rise above his animal desires. In other words, he WILL cheat. With ANYONE!! LOL. Its not about wanting other relationships, its about his unhealthy obsession for sexual encounters. This person would need therapy to understand why he does what he does, and how to balance his desires.

4.) Mercury sq/opposed to Uranus if either planet rules his 5th or 8th house. This native's nervous system (Mercury) is strongly tied to his sexual desires. His nervous system (Mercury) is highly charged and susceptible to restlessness which will prevent him settling w/ for one partner. When he gets stressed he needs sex. Any occurance that shakes up his equilibrium, and he searches for a sexual experience to satisfy him. He sexual needs are unusually strong, and he will (most likely) cheat.

RED FLAG:

I may still date him, but I would be very careful -

6.) Merc sq/opposed to Saturn - Sometimes those w/ this aspect tend to bend the truth in order to validate their own self-worth. OR in the worst case this native could be as bad as the Merc-Jupiter native. The entire chart needs to be taken into consideration.

7.) Merc sq/opposed to Neptune - He may hv issues w/ discerning fiction from reality in his own mind. He will tell a lie, and convince his own self that the lie that he has told is real, and in the process he convinces you as well! Worst case, he could possibly live in his own imaginary world (in his head) where his perception of himself, of you, and many ppl and/or circumstances around him is not clear and realistic. OR he could channel that energy in a healthy way as a Science Fiction author!

8.) 3rd house ruler sq/opposed to Jupiter or Saturn - Again, as I sd, the entire chart should be taken into consideration. But this would raise that Red Flag of concern.

9.) Gemini Asc sq/opposed to Jupiter or Uranus. This is similar to Merc-Jupiter, Merc-Uranus contacts, and depending on the entire chart and the maturity of the individual, could be manifest as I hv described above (See #s 1 and 4).

10.) If his chart shows that he is a highly sexual individual, I would not pursue a serious relationship w/ him. I would only DATE him, no strings attached. Why? Because men who have serious sexual signatures in their chart are prone to cheating after the "honeymoon" phase has gone and passed. So unless your chart indicates that you are just as highly sexual as he is, then fuggetaboutit!! Love does not keep a man from satisfying his insatiable sexual appetite. How familliar does this sound, "IT WAS JUST SEX!!??!!!"

Aspects that show a man is highly sexual (Actually there are too many for me to name ALL of them, but I'll rattle off a few of them):

Mars-Pluto (especially hard angles)
Mars-Venus (especially if they are in hard angles in his chart)
Mars-Uranus (again, hard angles are more pronounced)
Venus-Pluto
Venus-Uranus
5th or 8th house ruler in aspect to Venus, Mars, Uranus, or Pluto (especially hard angles)
Mars/Venus Midpoint = any planet but Saturn
and the same with Venus/Pluto MP
Mars/Pluto MP
Mars/Uranus MP
Especially if the planet that is in hard angle to the midpoint rules 5th or 8th house

There are so many Midpoint combinations that I cant name all of them now, but if you study his chart you should be able to get a pretty good idea about his sexual profile.

Again, most people have one or two sexual aspects, but if he has SEVERAL of them!!! LOL Watch out now!!!

posted January 01, 2006 05:41 PM              

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Mars-Pluto (especially hard angles)
Mars-Venus (especially if they are in hard angles in his chart)
Mars-Uranus (again, hard angles are more pronounced)
Venus-Pluto
Venus-Uranus
5th or 8th house ruler in aspect to Venus, Mars, Uranus, or Pluto (especially hard angles)
Mars/Venus Midpoint = any planet but Saturn
and the same with Venus/Pluto MP
Mars/Pluto MP
Mars/Uranus MP
Especially if the planet that is in hard angle to the midpoint rules 5th or 8th house

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Using quite basic Discourse Analysis; sounds like you like it hard but aren't getting it. Want my number?

posted January 01, 2006 05:46 PM              

YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! I hv a friend with the EXACT same birthdate as yours!!! LOL And I've been thinking about having sex with him!!! LMAO!!! No, seriously, no joke!!! (I have natal Pluto conj Venus conj Mars).

-Sol

posted January 01, 2006 06:22 PM              

Is you friend a 74 Tiger aswell? You have to put me in touch with him if he is. I've been looking for my astrological twin.
If he's not my astrological twin make out with me instead.

posted January 01, 2006 06:36 PM              

I disagree with Jupiter and Mercury square because have this and I am very honest as soon as I find out what's happening, I relate it to my S.O. Sometimes I am confused about what is happening but that is being naive.
I also have Chiron square Moon, and it's true I dislike my mother but my relations with women is much better as I get older.

My bad experiences are Venus singleton!
and if the 5th or 8th house is a singleton, or if there is a scorpio, or leo singleton there is an unusually sexy conversation every time, while the S.O or himself is obsessed with other people's sex lives.

In my experience, not everyone.
But I just met a Scorpio singleton and every conversation has sexual overtones, discipline? sex. Administration? sex. Traffic sign? sex. My biggest red flag is overly strong Venus, and or Scorpio, or Pluto on the 7th house, or ascendant.

It's true that nervous types like sex more to calm them down, so weird. Uranus conjunct or Trine Venus does have that nervous quality which I suppose is normal once you get used to it. There is also a compulsive type of person who has to have something to calm him down anyway so this type will use food, sex, drugs, vodka, anything around. It's not just sex that feeds the compulsion.

BUT I like the ones that are sexy without being dirty or crude. There is a way to be sexual, stare at a woman, make comments, and someway make it beautiful. I believe you must know a Libra or Taurus to know what I mean. Libra men can be incredibly bad this way and somehow come back to center quickly.

One said to me the other day
Why don't you grow your hair long, it's so much more beautiful when a woman..random woman walks by...wears her hair long..Oh not you, you are fine the way you are. Maybe it's the food that got his attention first.

A man who is sexual who values something else above sex will stay faithful to that woman who has that value in common-money, politics, career, food, it's just about finding out what it is. However, if it revolves around other women, too much temptation. For that reason it's best to know someone well, at least a year, before becoming emotionally involved.

I read somewhere that the more education a man gets, the worse he is in bed. If that's true maybe women really want easy and dumb and that's what we attract. Personally I would rather have smart and bad in bed because he can always be taught. To avoid unhappiness simply avoid stupid men who have no emotional ties and stick to smart people who have emotional ties and no addictions.

That rules out liars, compulsive addicts, and con artists. If you keep finding yourself around addicts, and liars, then it's time for some help with a therapist and a good friend because there are these problems inside of us and we have to know our limitations.

For me it's always Pluto/Scorpio that drives the sexy engine. Venus gives the charm, but it's Pluto badly aspected or too strong that has the least respect for my life. That is my limitation and I stick to it.

No matter how much therapy you do, if you keep going back to what you KNOW is wrong for you then it's just going back to what you know. Pluto is all about compulsions and patterns and my path in life, and that is my goal in life, to find a constructive love.

Natasha

posted January 01, 2006 07:39 PM              

<To avoid unhappiness simply avoid stupid men who have no emotional ties and stick to smart people who have emotional ties and no addictions.>

Hi!! I think that we all wish that life was this simple, but is simply is not! I can give you numerous Astrological examples of smart, powerful, responsible men who lie and cheat on their wives. And when you look at their charts the Astrological signatures are obvious.

First Example: J F Kennedy - May 29, 1917 3pm EST Brookline, Mass, U.S. - Unfaithful husband

He has Aquarius on the 5th house. His 5th house ruler, Uranus, squares his Mars, Mercury, and Venus.

Bill Clinton - Aug 19th, 1946 8:51am CST, Hope, Arkansas, U.S. - Unfaithful husband

Uranus is his 5th house ruler, Venus is his 8th house ruler, Sun/Moon = Asc in Libra (ruled by Venus, his 8th house ruler), Sun/Venus = Uranus (his 5th house ruler, Mars conj Venus, Merc conj Saturn (sometimes they lie).

Truth is, there is no clear cut way to know who is capable cheating, or lying, or doing drugs. But through Astrology we can objectively assess a native's chart and see where there are areas of concern.

A man w/ several sexual aspects is not DESTINED to cheat, but he is more prone to straying because of his excessive sexual appetite. And of course, as Astrologers, and students of Astrology, we would never go by our own bias and experiences alone. We cite other Astrological sources and references, and we look to history and/or historical figures and their charts to studay and learn from.

And Im glad to finally meet someone w/ Merc-Jupiter who is evolved!! Life would be blissful if everyone were evolved as you.

posted January 01, 2006 08:07 PM              

Haven't you found that unfaithful men really do not have emotional ties even to their wives? They are not intimate, honest, happy, or even connected to their closest friends, instead find faults with everyone they know.

It's as if they are addicted to everything is wrong and something better has to be out there. They are obsessed with physical perfection in people and things.
There are signs, that are easy to ignore but it's clear JFK was with a wife who was uninterested in his life as he was uninterested in hers. She had no interest in politics, he cared little for his family life, and many could see that.

Clinton seems to treat his wife as a political ally, not as a close personal friend. And she seems quite cold as well, never really answering questions about her feelings. She certainly did not show the warmth the Bush wives do.

There is certainly a lack of real genuine love in a man's life when he has no emotional ties. Ask him how often he visits his mother. Does he have pets. Does he have children, see his children, want them. Does he have plants, who waters them?

Does he treat his ex g/f's disrespectfully and make fun of people for their clothes, hair, and weight? Criticize those who are loyal to him and act arrogantly to those in service of his needs?

There are signs, inappropriate behaviour, putting his needs ahead of your own, being competitive and needing to know everything without opening up.

With these signs in hand I have been able to weed out quite a few baddies and I am pretty confident now. When in doubt, I put my needs ahead of his and see what he does. If he expects that then he is a winner.

Thank you for this post as it refreshes my memory in what I do want in a friend.

posted January 01, 2006 08:34 PM              

Okay, one statement: Mars is not an emotional planet. Period. With one exeption, the emotion of anger. Mars is about raw action, and Astrological the sexual profile of a man will many times have little to do w/ emotions. Not all the time, but you hv to keep in mind that men and women are completely different.

Men cheat for an array of reasons, lack of emotional nurturing being only one of them. Promiscuousness being another. One example that I gave was the Nervous System (Mercury-Uranus). There are many books on the market about the WHY'S, that is a whole subject on to itself. But here I am not tackling WHY, I am merely conveying Astrological Signatures of men whom have certain behaviors. This is not stuff that I am making up, there are lots and lots of Astrology sources that talk about the Astrology of one's Sexuality. One great Author is Noel Tyl. I would highly suggest that you get any book by him, he has been an Astrologer for 20+ years. Also, case studies are the best source for learning. Another good book is the Astrology of Love & Money by the Magi Society. They hv may charts and case studies to learn from as well.

Your comment about Hilary Clinton: Show me in her chart where she is unloving. I study Astrology, not personal opinions. LOL I have not looked at her chart so what you are saying may very well be true. However, one thing that I never do is interject my personal opinion about anyone when discussing Astrology. The two dont mix! Astrology is a science, and statements such as, "Its seems (from apperances) that..." dont go hand in hand with science. So, with that being said, and in order for others to learn as well, please do look at Hilary Clinton's chart and then tell us about her ability to give and receive love in an intimate relationship. This will give us all clues as to why her husband cheated on her. And please, if you could do the same for Jackie Onassis. Because the Astrology of relationships is what is important here, not what is so-called "known" via gossip, media, etc, etc.

So let's study Astrology. I hope that you find it worth your while!

posted January 01, 2006 08:59 PM              

You have absolutley not offended me!! Im sorry, I just forgot about you!! LOL

If you dont mind posting your email and I'll send it to you ASAP!

-Sol

posted January 01, 2006 09:06 PM              

marsconjunctmercury@yahoo.co.uk

I thought my email address was visible on here? I've made it so.

And another thing why does this site not have PM (personal messaging) facility?
Oh well take the rough with the smooth Adam..

posted January 02, 2006 11:13 PM              

I got Merc (Aries 4 House) Sq Jup (Gem 7 House) 84deg. Perhaps my Sagi Rising totally removes Lying.

Also I got this interpretation from Zet s/w for Mercury Sq Jupiter -
You don't spend a lot of time thinking out your problems, considering solutions, and the like. Your thoughts are most often elsewhere, and tend to be impractical much of the time. You can't seem to figure out the right course of action. This is most true when it comes to your career or vocation. Not a good counselor yourself, you are well advised to seek the advice of someone you trust when it comes to matters of your career.

posted January 03, 2006 01:09 AM              

House positions (Placidus)
Ascendant Scorpio 07°28'21
2nd House Sagittarius 06°46'16
3rd House Capricorn 06°08'47
Imum Coeli Aquarius 06°27'10
5th House Pisces 07°55'29
6th House Aries 08°57'05
Descendant Taurus 07°28'21
8th House Gemini 06°46'16
9th House Cancer 06°08'47
Medium Coeli Leo 06°27'10
11th House Virgo 07°55'29
12th House Libra 08°57'05

Major aspects
Sun Sextile Moon 1°16
Sun Trine Jupiter 7°47
Sun Conjunction Uranus 7°23
Sun Sextile Neptune 2°43
Sun Conjunction Pluto 4°11
Moon Sextile Uranus 6°07
Moon Conjunction Neptune 1°27
Moon Sextile Pluto 2°55
Mercury Opposition Saturn 3°56
Mercury Sextile Ascendant 3°09
Venus Conjunction Mars 5°32
Venus Quincunx Saturn 2°33
Venus Square Ascendant 4°32
Mars Sextile Jupiter 1°18
Mars Quincunx Saturn 2°59
Jupiter Square Saturn 4°17
Uranus Sextile Neptune 4°39
Uranus Conjunction Pluto 3°11
Uranus Sextile Ascendant 3°29
Neptune Sextile Pluto 1°28
Numbers indicate orb (deviation from the exact

tkssssssssssss

posted January 03, 2006 08:34 AM              

Villy, Jupiter is the natural ruler of the 9th house, not the 10th. Capricorn is the natural ruler of the 10th house (Career). Career is not one of the areas that is ruled by Jupiter. However, if Jupiter is on the cusp of your 10th house in your natal chart then Jupiter would be your 10th house ruler in your chart. But the planet Jupiter itself has nothing to do w/ career.

There is an Astrology Group here on the Linda Goodman site that you can join and learn the basics of Astrology for free. I believe all you hv to do is email the webmaster and they will gv you a password. Ive nvr been to it, but I can imagine that you can learn the rulerships of all of the signs and planets, and it's reputable. Hope this helps!!

Planet Soul - The reason that I mentioned the 3rd house ruler in negative aspect is bcuz that aspect could conceiveably be similar to Mercury (the natural 3rd house ruler) in harsh aspect to Jupiter or Saturn. In a native's chart the 3rd house ruler gives some indication as to the native's communication style. Jupiter expands anything that it touches, so Jupiter in an easy aspect to Mercury gives ease in learning and expression, intelligence, communication, etc, etc. But Merc in a hard aspect to Jupiter gives the same as above, but there could be challenges with exaggerating the truth (because Jupiter rules expansion). Conversely, w/ Saturn, a native w/ hard contact to Mercury could conceiveably be a liar because he/she may feel that he/she does not know how to communicate in an effective way. His/her thought process is not (for lack of a better term) "quick" enough to effectively convey what they are truly feeling, or they may feel inadequate about not knowing the right words and expressions (Saturn rules restriction). So Jupiter-Saturn are two different sides of the same coin.

So as I mentioned, Mercury-Jupiter may lie bcuz they hv confidence (Jupiter=luck) that they can do it and make it sound good, and no one will know bcuz luck seems to mask their insincerities (or so they believe). In other word it comes easy (Jupiter) to them. Whereas with Mercury-Saturn it's a lot more complicated. There is an excellent book on Saturn by Astrologer Liz Green called SATURN: A LOOK AT AN OLD DEVIL. She goes into detail about the Mercury-Saturn contact (or Merc in the 3rd house). But as I mentioned, and this should always be taken in consideration where Astrology is concerned, the ENTIRE chart needs to be synthesized and analyzed in order to truly make an assessment about one's character.

I hope that I am helping! Please keep the questions coming!

posted January 03, 2006 10:22 AM              

I have met two serial cheaters in my lifetime, both gave me huge warning signs which in my twenties-I ignored! in favour of the attention.

And in my thirties it took six weeks to figure out I made a mistake.

Both the same type of guy, but I changed.
I saw what I didn't want to see before, both guys had no friends, no close family, no plants, no ties to anything they nurtured not ever. Everyone took care of them, they complained constantly of being abandoned, emotionally empty, alone, even though they had everything, money and friends.

I pegged the second as a liar and a drinker and he and I ended very badly but I would have done anything to get him out of my life. The first one I would have done anything to understand why he was in my life.

The difference is that as women, in our thirties, we are what we reject-men don't teach us anything about love, or emotions, they can help in our career, that's about it. By tuning into the cycle of my own life, I can reject anything abnormal.

What is abnormal for one woman is a learning process for another, I feel that these kinds of men are like cancerous tumours that must be removed immediately.

I am very firm on this but it still takes too much energy not to believe in oneself.

To believe in oneself I must stick to my plan in life, my mind gets too distracted, lots of Gemini here, so I must reject men constantly and get used to it.

There are signs and I will never forget the red flags as long as I live or ever trust a man 100%. That is what it takes to survive at the basic level and I intend to thrive.

It's a competitive world and I have to remind myself of that constantly.

That is why I am different now, I change myself constantly, change who I am, not just learn what other people teach but work on my own assumptions and experience first, and believe in myself first.

I reject a lot of good people that way, but I have learned it's the best way to be happy, to stick to one path. And that path means rejecting men in a romantic way, that is the only way I can see all the red flags.

So what is normal for me is going to be very, very different for you.

While my career may suck on occasion I know way too much about serial cheaters to ever let one into my life again. It's a constant issue in my life, like getting the oil changed every three months. In no way do I ever trust one theory to keep something so bad out of my life.

But Hilary Clinton should have left Bill, long, long ago because she helped build him up to a position of power. She can be a President herself without a man, that she does not know. In essence, she has turned her back on herself, the person she does not love first is Hilary.

posted January 03, 2006 09:12 PM            

Scott Peterson
Woody Allen
Gary Ridgeway
Brad Pitt
Michael Jackson

or Moon in Pisces (meaning no offense to those who have it)

posted January 03, 2006 10:58 PM              

Maybe it has something to do with his Aqua rising.

I usually don't like scorpio men though. Too emotional for me.

He does have a reputation about being good in bed though. I've heard this from quite a few girls actually...

posted January 05, 2006 03:35 AM              

looking at your friend's aspects and house rulersips, I wld say that he is probably a manipulative individual. So just be careful of his mind-games and manipulative tactics. Dont allow him to switch things around and place the blame on you, and dont allow him to throw guilt back on you for something that he is clearly in the wrong for. Because he WILL try! Also, he probably says and does things just so that he can see your reaction, or how you will respond, he's probably keenly perceptive. Dont be a pawn in his little games.

posted January 05, 2006 11:49 AM              

You mentioned a very key word!! You sd that you you feel that he is trying to render you "powerless". That is precisely one of the ways that manipulative ppl play their "power" games.

You see, he has a tight Sun-Pluto conjunction. An individual who is not evolved and mature will handle that energy in such ways that I hv described. Plutonians are eerily perceptive, they pick up on the slightest mood change, waver in your voice, defensiveness, everything! They will assess an entire situation and everyone w/in radar like 007 Bond. Plutonians are the natural detectives and psychologists of the zodiac. They know exactly what to say to appease you, and conversely they know what to say to manipulate you as well.

There are other aspects in your friend's chart that are worth mentioning, but the bottom line is this:

We all hv these so-called "negative" aspects. We all hv afflicted Suns, Moons, Venus's, Merc, Saturns, etc., etc. But it doesnt mean we are all screwed up. We all come here to learn different lessons in life, and many people are able to rise above their lower selves, while others take a little longer, and then there are those whom it takes a lifetime to work through their baggage.

so dont ever look at one or two aspects in a chart and try to judge a person's overall character. Instead, the whole chart must be taken into consideration. Age is important. And the angles are SUPER important!!!! So a birth time should be known whenever possible.

Be good!! -Sol

posted January 05, 2006 11:57 AM              

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1. Mercury Sq Jupiter - LIE! LIE! LIE!!!

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