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SecretGardenAgain
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posted January 04, 2006 03:55 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is bound to sound weird. I just think that I may not be hurt easily enough. I am almost robotic, I never cry and rarely feel hurt. In fact most of the times when Im entering relationships, I think, hey if it doesnt work out, no prob I'll go out with (so and so, in the back of my mind hehe), and then jump headfirst into the relationship in question...and if it ends off badly I'll be hurt for about a week before normal life resumes. Of course all the crying/hurt thing happens under bedcovers abt 15 mins before bedtime


The reason I started thinking this is abnormal is because my mom makes a huge display of her emotions. Crying is a very public thing for her. Then I realized, even my brother and sister are much more emotional (WEIRD) considering that my sis is a Scorpio / Virgo with a Virgo stellium and Virgo rising, (but she does have moon in the 1st), my brother is a Libra/ Cap, and seems totally cold. But even he wants to have these grand 'talks' every other day about what is going on in our lives.

Am I too unemotional?? Whats going on here? I feel like I don't know how to handle my family's emotional outbursts because I can't relate to them, because I am not like that myself.

I don't even see what could explain it. I have Scorpio moon/pluto/saturn, and ninth house stellium, venus in aries.

Any guesses??

Love
SG

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Gooberzlostlovefound
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posted January 04, 2006 04:49 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi SG...

That is interesting. I think I've seen you mention before that you are a gemini?

My best friend is a gemini also, and her temperament seems very similar to what you're describing. (although she has an gem moon and you have a scorp one. Hmm....)

I would be curious to see more of your chart details if you would want to post them.

GLLF

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marsconjunctmercury
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posted January 04, 2006 06:43 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moon in Virgo.

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proxieme
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posted January 04, 2006 06:57 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have an Aqua Moon, so I feel you on the coldness front.
Much of that thawed out, though, once I became preggers w/ my kiddo - but that may have been the 5th-house-ness of my Pisces Sun acting up.

Looking at your Moon (and its stellium), if I had to guess I'd say that you really do have some pretty deep, roiling emotions churning within you...but the crust on 'em's so deep that you probably don't even know that they're there.
Sometime, perhaps long, long ago, you learned that showing your emotions made you too vulnerable for comfort.

I'd be on the watch for when that crust cracks.
It could get messy.

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Rede411
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posted January 04, 2006 10:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rede411     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SG,

Try having Aries Sun & Venus, Aqua moon & Gemini Rising. I would rather be caught dead than caught crying. I don't "feel" as much as other people, that's for sure but it's because I'm so cerebral. I think Air signs make people more aloof and I would agree with Virgo moons being rather unemotional. I used to joke with my gal pals that the only time I can get emotional or cry is at the movies!!

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SecretGardenAgain
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posted January 05, 2006 07:57 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
GLLF, here is my chart:

Sun Gemini 11°19'14 09 direct
Moon Scorpio 23°55'14 02 direct
Mercury Gemini 04°23'07 08/9 direct
Mercury is technically near the end of house 8 and is interpreted in house 9.
Venus Aries 26°02'52 07 direct
Mars Gemini 24°57'16 09 direct
Jupiter Aquarius 16°56'58 05 stationary (R)
Saturn Scorpio 23°34'41 02 retrograde
Uranus Sagittarius 16°11'25 03 retrograde
Neptune Capricorn 02°48'46 03 retrograde
Pluto Scorpio 02°21'25 01 retrograde
True Node Taurus 18°07'52 08 retrograde


House positions (Placidus)
Ascendant Libra 06°55'58
2nd House Scorpio 04°29'32
3rd House Sagittarius 05°06'18
Imum Coeli Capricorn 07°33'35
5th House Aquarius 09°57'32
6th House Pisces 10°13'43
Descendant Aries 06°55'58
8th House Taurus 04°29'32
9th House Gemini 05°06'18
Medium Coeli Cancer 07°33'35
11th House Leo 09°57'32
12th House Virgo 10°13'43

Major aspects
Sun Conjunction Mercury 6°56
Sun Trine Jupiter 5°38
Sun Opposition Uranus 4°52
Sun Trine Ascendant 4°23
Moon Quincunx Venus 2°08
Moon Quincunx Mars 1°02
Moon Square Jupiter 6°58
Moon Conjunction Saturn 0°21
Mercury Quincunx Neptune 1°34
Mercury Quincunx Pluto 2°02
Mercury Trine Ascendant 2°33
Venus Sextile Mars 1°06
Venus Quincunx Saturn 2°28
Mars Quincunx Saturn 1°23
Jupiter Sextile Uranus 0°46
Neptune Sextile Pluto 0°27
Neptune Square Ascendant 4°07

anything stand out in terms of emotional aloofness?

Mars conj. mercury, that is interesting that you said that because my sister is a Scorp with Virgo moon and was very unemotional as a child (or i should say hid her emotions because she was so abused) but now she is much more emotional and moody (Virgo rising, and moon in the first house, maybe thats why).

Proxieme, that could very well be true. Sometimes I do feel like that. There are periods of intense brooding that I go through occasionally. However, most of the time I am very happy inside (not too preppy of a person on the outside though), like peace and silence inside you know? (well, as silent as it CAN be in a geminis mind..hehe and that too a writers mind).

When I was a kid I was much more emotional. Id cry at anything. And I was notorious for my temper. Even now I can snap at people occasionally but its much more controlled and never an angry snap but a sarcastic/caustic one.

Rede, does that aloofness give you peace or discomfort? I find that mine gives me both. Funny, I cry at sad movies too, but thats about the only time! Every other time i get screwed over, or any one I care about gets hurt, I go into 'lets fix this, lets think about whats the best solution, hmm' mode!

Love
SG


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BlueRoamer
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posted January 05, 2006 08:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moon scorpio cuts off emotions till the last minute, especially in 2nd house very controlled...you'll just bury it/not feel it until the last minute, then it'll come outta nowhere like a ton of bricks...

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AppleLove
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posted January 05, 2006 09:32 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I also have Venus in Aries/Mercury in Gemini with Aries Sun/Taurus Moon.

Growing up I always thought there was something wrong with me...or at least my Mom pointed out that I was so 'cold'...she called me Bette Davis. Just because I wouldn't shed tears to show my sadness.

Until recently I've cried less than 10 times probably in my entire life. I feel sadness just like any other human being but the way I display it wasn't like my Mother who cries at the drop of a hat.

As I get older though I'm finding I'm more in tune with my intuition and for some reason have an easier time releasing tears. It does feel good to be able to finally cry! Until this past year I couldn't cry if my life depended on it.

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DayDreamer
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posted January 05, 2006 10:14 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi SGA,

my sister has sun conjunct mars in Gemini too (and so do I but in Aquarius), plus she has an Aries moon, and despite all the agressive traits, she's still very sensitive. Hehe like me she has no problems arguing when she's upset. But she gets alot of her frustrations and feelings out on paper through various types of writings...poems, lyrics, long rants.

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MysticMelody
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posted January 05, 2006 11:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
People often think I am as cold as ice (detached Libra and stern Cappy), but I often joke that I cry when someone wins a new car on the Price Is Right. Must be my moon in the first house.

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sthenri
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posted January 06, 2006 12:19 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SG my sister has the Taurus Moon in the 3rd, and a Cap Venus in the 11th. Talk about no reactions. Recently her house was flooded and the family had to move into a motel for a week. She called everyone and gave the news as if recording an event for TV. No emotional reaction of her own, just relating events.

I am sure she was upset enough to let us know, but never a tear, I imagine she does that with her husband, a Scorpio/Libra moon.

I know it's necessary to show your feelings to those you trust the most. My sister is showing she is upset by what she is doing, not by what she says, not everyone has to cry, get dramatic, to show they are upset. She doesn't want attention, but she needs it. That's why I love her.

Natasha

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moonshine
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posted January 08, 2006 05:28 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey SGA,

Do you find that if you cannot feel or express an emotion, it sometimes comes out in other ways? i.e. you develop flu-like symptoms or go down with an illness?

I know someone like this. When my friend (a Cancer) broke up with her boyfriend she didnt cry at all, telling us it was no big deal. (But I KNOW she loved him). But that same night she threw up four times in a row, completely randomly! (We had both eaten the same meal earlier so I know it wasnt the food). As this girl usually has a cast-iron constition, it got me wondering if it was psychological-based. Does this make any sense to you at all...?

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sdg1844
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posted January 08, 2006 05:43 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

SG:

This is an interesting topic. I have 4 planets in Gem w/a Cancer Moon and I have often wondered if I was in fact a cold unfeeling person. Public displays of emotion esp. crying are a fate worse than death for me.

My resilience and ability to dust myself off and get back on the horse sometimes really scares me. On the flip side, if someone truly hurts me, I never ever forget it and I have carried grudges against ppl for decades.

Go figure! I am an endless source of contradictions @ times. LOL

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Before you speak, ask yourself, is it kind, is it necessary, is it true, does it improve on the silence?
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Hexxie
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posted January 09, 2006 11:50 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Haha this is funny to me. I cry on occasion. But when I do it's like a damn breaks somewhere inside me and these wet things come out of my eyes and i'm like WTF is this! I rarely have any warning and it's strange to me. They go away as quickly as they come and I tend to feel cleansed yet tired after. Linda Goodman wrote:

"tears stem from many emotions in the human heart
often from compassion
but always . . from a sensitive soul
and weeping is not always a sign that a soul is sleeping
tears can cleanse the soul
on its path to knowing

whereas unshed tears may sometimes
form an inner mist, to blind the soul from truth
therefore, it is a good thing to shed tears
as long as a proper balance is kept"

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`Who are you?' said the Caterpillar. This was not an encouraging opening for a conversation. Alice replied, rather shyly, `I--I hardly know, sir, just at present-- at least I know who I WAS when I got up this morning, but I think I must have been changed several times since then.'
~Lewis Carroll

:::Libra Sun / 29* Gemini Rising / Aquarius Moon:::

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Swerve
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posted January 09, 2006 03:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can't help but be touched by things, and yes, when on my own I cry. Films can get to me, someone who is really hurting, a real injustice, being able to put myself in someone else's shoes and feel what they feel does it.

If anyone has seen Crash when you think the little girl has been shot and is dead in her father's arms, and then is OK, and NOT cried. You need help.

I believe that when we are sad we are more honest in who we are and authentic to ourselves than when we are happy.

The saddest songs are usually the most touching.

Emotions add a dimension to life that gives it it's magic, they breathe life into an animate universe of physics alone. I would hate to be without them, I couldn't possibly comprehend who(or what)I would be then.

My friends would never believe this though, to them I am a hardman. Yeah right. The girls know I'm sensitive compared to the other boys, but I balance this with power and a strong mind.

I am trying to be able to control (more direct) my emotions so that it is easier to operate naturally.

Being triple water with Scorpio Moon in the First doesn't help though. There is a balance to all of this, maybe you are just slightly more on the other side SGA.

You are what you are and as you are meant to be.

Swerve

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MoonDuchess88
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posted January 09, 2006 07:15 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, I don't really cry unless I'm alone by myself, RARELY in front of other ppl. If I do, its because it was too overwhelming. I have my moon in the 8th but I really think its because of Cappy Rising, the Queen of "no reactions". I bet my water sun hates it and is dying to get out Oh well.

*edit*my sister is kinda like you though. Just can't cry. She has a pisces sun/gemini moon/scorp rising. Her water sun probably hates it even more...

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geminirising26
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posted January 09, 2006 08:21 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Secret Garden:

Sun Gemini 11°19'14 09 direct
Moon Scorpio 23°55'14 02 direct
Mercury Gemini 04°23'07 08/9 direct

-Moon in Scorp has an ability to hide rather than seek. You may find yourself to be easily hurt, but that doesn't mean that this is easily expressed.
-The Merc placement may add to your detached outlook on life.
Yours is what based on "reasoning and logic" according to authors March and McEvers.
This is probably why you see your family as very emotional.

Also about Moon conjunct Saturn: "you may experience difficulty in revealing your emotional self"

Do you see this??

Just wanted to chime in!


I think I am a very emotional person, and I am sensitive too. (people say I am dramatic- I say I have a flair for words) and very easily excitable. This is probably due to my gem asc. But, I try really hard to seem like I am in control. (Cap asc)


*Edit: It is your moon conjunct saturn, not mercury like I had before*

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Isolaede
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posted January 09, 2006 08:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Isolaede     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wonder if has anything to do with your Moon conjunct Saturn? My boyfriend has the exact same aspect and he seems to be incredibly uncomfortable dealing with his feelings. And he's a Cancer which makes his lack of emotion even more unusual. He does get hurt by things but it takes him so much longer to do so than most people.

This Saturn aspect seems to encourage people to dapen their emotions and try to deal with things based on reason alone. It could be a unconsious defensive mechanism. Your Saturn Conjunct your moon might be even stonger in your case because you are a Gemini and moving past emotion tends to be easier for air signs.

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posted January 09, 2006 11:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To take this thread in an opposite direction, I learned yesterday that someone has categorized a group of people as Highly Sensitive. I saw two books, one author referencing the other's work, about Highly Sensitive people. I didn't look over the whole test, but I know I at least fit part of the profile. It's not strictly about being emotional, but includes a heavy dose of being too sensitive to the various stimuli that surround us. Like there was a bit about not being able to handle loud music, and I am totally in that boat. Loudness is one of the most annoying things to me and one of the most frustrating things about living with an Aries.

Anyway, just thought the whole concept was interesting to look into. I couldn't bring myself to actually purchasing a book yesterday, because I have a gift card for another bookstore.

Here's a bit from amazon.com:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0553062182/qi d=1136867558/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/002-9962280-2533642?s=books&v=glance&n=283155

quote:
Are you an HSP? Are you easily overwhelmed by stimuli? Affected by other people's moods? Easily startled? Do you need to withdraw during busy times to a private, quiet place? Do you get nervous or shaky if someone is observing you or competing with you? HSP, shorthand for "highly sensitive person," describes 15 to 20 percent of the population. Being sensitive is a normal trait--nothing defective about it. But you may not realize that, because society rewards the outgoing personality and treats shyness and sensitivity as something to be overcome. According to author Elaine Aron (herself an HSP), sensitive people have the unusual ability to sense subtleties, spot or avoid errors, concentrate deeply, and delve deeply. This book helps HSPs to understand themselves and their sensitive trait and its impact on personal history, career, relationships, and inner life. The book offers advice for typical problems. For example, you learn strategies for coping with overarousal, overcoming social discomfort, being in love relationships, managing job challenges, and much more. The author covers a lot of material clearly, in an approachable style, using case studies, self-tests, and exercises to bring the information home. The book is essential for you if you are an HSP--you'll learn a lot about yourself. It's also useful for people in a relationship with an HSP. --Joan Price

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astro junkie
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posted January 09, 2006 11:43 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AcousticGod -

That's the book I'm always recommending to everyone here! Recommended more than any other book. Everyone who is confused about their sensitivity should pick it up. A very easy read...

Did you pick up the title from one of my posts? I'm so happy to see someone else is bringing it up.

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posted January 10, 2006 09:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SparklingSag     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey, my cappy rising stops me from showing emotions....mum thinks that I am unemotional and look arrogant or superior to her.....leo moon too comes across when I feel vulnerable. I'd rather look like i was coping even if i dont feel it inside.

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