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Topic: The wrong turn during Saturn return (What's supposed to happen?)
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steelrose
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posted January 07, 2006 04:00 PM
  
What is supposed to happen if you make the wrong turn in your Saturn return? When our Saturn return comes, we are supposed to evaluate what our lives have been and learn lessons… But if we don’t assess well the situation, we may decide to try and go wild losing the best there was in us… thinking that our problems and suffering were caused by that when they weren’t…What if someone makes the wrong decision? Is it especially determining if that mistake is made when transiting Saturn is exactly conjuncting his natal Saturn? Is it especially disastrous?
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Mystic Gemini
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posted January 07, 2006 04:05 PM
What house is it in?
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Gemini sun, Cancer rising, mercury in Gemini, moon in Taurus *29, venus in Taurus, mars in Libra *´¨)
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(¸.·´ (¸.·´ * Lost in the peace of serenity
Blind my eyes I cannot see
Lost my soul but found my heart
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steelrose
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posted January 07, 2006 04:10 PM
No idea... Sorry... I don't know his time of birth...IP: Logged |
marsconjunctmercury
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posted January 07, 2006 04:12 PM
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MysticMelody
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posted January 07, 2006 04:12 PM
There's no danger of me over-thinking this one, since I probably don't have as much information as most of those who will reply to your question.
What came to my mind was:Saturn - make a mistake!?!? Not likely. hehe Wasn't Linda the one who likened Saturn influences to a Karmic Playpen? We do have free will, but "Karma" usually finds a way? Meaning Saturn will find a way.
I just read something, a quote I think, that said we are given two lives. One to learn with and then the real one. When I read that I thought of the Saturn return. I guess you are thinking about making mistakes with the "new" life.. but if you are here it seems to reason that you did your "homework" in Saturn school, so you are going in the right direction now... IP: Logged |
MysticMelody
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posted January 07, 2006 04:13 PM
Ahh, someone else, not yourself...IP: Logged |
steelrose
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posted January 07, 2006 04:24 PM
Oh, GOD, that’s an awful lot of time!!!!! Especially for me to wait!!!He is a sweet guy… He has always been… He always treated women well… His mistake has been chosing the wrong women… They mistreated him. Now he has been alone for several years, hiden in his hole, too scared of loving… Now he has decided to get a kind of revenge on women. He will use us because he feels used by us. He will go for sex. Just sex. No love. No relationship. No compromise. He’s about to go wild. A new year resolution. When transiting Saturn conjuncted his natal Saturn… I was here to offer him that romance he has been so long longing for. Our story is 18 years old. Never got to be together. Misunderstandings. Bad timing. Blunders. Now we had a chance to learn our lesson… but now he’d be happy to use me to make me pay for what the others did to him… It’s really scary that his resolution of giving a turn to his life to change him into a heartless user happened when his Saturn return was exact… He already has Saturn retro, plus another 4 retro planets (Venus one of them)… If you ask me he is not re-learning his lessons very well this time around either…
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MysticMelody
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posted January 07, 2006 05:21 PM
I think you are right, he has chosen to learn the hard way. What can ya do? *shrug*
If he has chosen to take another path, you can only camp with him for a bit and ask him to take a path more in the direction you are taking, explaining your reasons, but ultimately he will choose his direction himself. And you can't follow him down the wrong path, you have to be true to yourself and follow your path or you will be lost too.
That is why I came here, I was hoping that by carefully and mindfully following the path I should be on, I might find some who are travelling the same path, which would give me some good company for a while.  IP: Logged |
steelrose
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posted January 07, 2006 05:45 PM
Yep, Mystic... I cannot follow him down the wrong path. I think it’s pretty clear for him where I stand. It’s his choice… I know the wrong path is more tempting and easier to follow.I can only pray and hope for him to realise before it’s too late. I was only wondering if that is possible when the wrong decision was made during his exact Saturn return… Yes, only ourselves can choose our own paths… Saturn will teach him no matter what, I hope. Life has already been hard on him, mostly due to his own doings… but it will be even harder. I have my own lessons to learn… I also enjoy sharing my path with people like you, who enlighten me and keep me in the right track… I don’t know what I’d be doing with my life by now otherwise… Maybe ruining my chances as he is doing.
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MysticMelody
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posted January 07, 2006 06:10 PM
I understand how you feel. I knew that you probably already knew the things I bring up, but it sometimes helps when someone frames it differently, so I blah blahed on anyway I'm glad you didn't mind! 
When I used to watch with sadness as some old friends kept choosing darker and un-healthier paths, I found a book that described it like a bridge that you have to cross... leaving the friends on the other side if that is their choice. It said you could wave back to them and cheer them on, but you couldn't cross back over to try to make them follow you.
I like the image of a staircase or mountain better, finding that when I try to go back down into the shadows to lend a hand I start to become confused and disoriented myself. If I stay too long, I start to become more and more fearful. And that image always reminds me of *What Dreams May Come* when she is in "hell" and her husband chooses to go help her out of the darkness/madness. It works for him because his wife is someone who was basically following a higher path in life, and just got lost in tragedy. It did not apply to the "friends" I know who had exceptionally hard lives, however. The spark of faith within them is overwhelmed by the bitter and dark spirit that has growth within them throughout their lifetime. (s)?
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steelrose
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posted January 07, 2006 06:34 PM
On, Mystic, I like when you people explain your opinions, no matter if I already think that way… It’s nice to be reassured. And now I need to be…I’m so sad to leave him behind. So heartbroken because he prefered that horrid path… I’m so sorry but I can’t follow him. I can only get on with mine and see what this awful Saturn has on store for me… because I’d be walking on my own. I can visualise the image of a steep mountain path, with dense mist behind… losing your loved ones behind… while you shout but they don’t hear you… while they get lost and you can’t go back to find them… because they chose to abandon the path to rest in the tempting dark forest… because they are tired of climbing… I guess exploring this dark path must be part of his Saturn trial…
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MysticMelody
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posted January 07, 2006 07:22 PM
Don't give ol' Saturn too bad a rap. Remember, without challenges it would be a dull existance! I know that doesn't help too much when you are feeling overwhelmed and sad from a loss.
I just pulled a book, Simple Abundance, out of a pile of papers while I was looking for my chart generating software. That was about twenty minutes ago and I decided to grab it up right now with a quick prayer for you to see if I could open it for some words of wisdom. I opened to this page:
"No, you're not. So shrug off their skepticism with a smile and go back to mining your acre of diamonds. Eventually they'll come around, either as cheerleaders or as astonished spectators. In the meantime, do your best to pay as little attention as possible to doom, doubt, and derision. You've only got so much psychic energy. If it's squandered on converting the heathens, you won't have any left to do the work waiting for you."
This book is a daily message book and that particular message was about following your dreams (to be a writer as the author is, or whatever) even if others were asking when you were going to get a "real job." But what I typed was the part that I first saw, and the part that applies nicely to your situation.
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