posted January 15, 2006 08:47 PM              

Any similar experiences with Jupiter aspects? (and/or Neptune)

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Jupiter in Synastry
When Jupiter in one person's chart forms aspects with a personal planet or Ascendant in their partner's chart, a special relationship is formed. The Jupiter person tends to give the other person the benefit of the doubt. Jupiter sees the good in the area of life and energy of the other's contacted planet. Jupiter doesn't tend to blind itself to the negative (that is Neptune's job!)- yes it is Neptune’s job which is absolutely fantastic considering I also have Neptune aspects with him-. It simply searches for the positive, and finds much to like about the person. You can think of the Jupiter taking on the role of loving father who naturally finds goodness in his child. This is not the kind of father who refuses to see the "bad", or who totally glorifies or idealizes his child. In fact, Jupiter is quite likely to see the negative, but he only wants to see his child grow, and easily excuses the less desirable traits, preferring to think that the good outweighs the bad. He is unthreatened by the child's behavior. The Jupiter person in synastry wants to help out, cheer up, and encourage the other person. Jupiter gets the most pleasure when he sees his loved one grow.

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posted January 16, 2006 07:41 AM              

Thnak you again

posted January 16, 2006 10:07 AM              

It's tempting to spend time with FU's because they want you so bad too, one Jupiterian I know loves complete messes because they are always there for him. It's tempting, self sacrifice is noble but it has to be reciprocated. Otherwise it's ultimately selfish.

posted January 16, 2006 10:28 AM            

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...Jupiter reflects the human capacity for forgiveness. Each of us has a personal style where relationships are concerned, and each of us forgives the errors and differences in others. Jupiter’s placement and aspects show how we learn to forgive ourselves for weaknesses and mistakes as well. This is how we come to understand ourselves, not as vessels of perfect human expression, but rather as spiritually guided beings who seek our own most inspired, most confident, most successful expression. Jupiter allows us to indulge in excesses, while at the same time guiding us to our goals. This planet shows how your individual sense of humor works. Through Jupiter we come to understand humanity n general and ourselves in particular, both aspiring to be spiritually wise and understanding of self and others...

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posted January 16, 2006 02:13 PM              

Interesting idea here!

I've got my Jup Conj his Moon & MC. I definitely do forgive him when it comes to his decisions regarding his job situation. All the time. Yes, they affect me too cuz I live with him & astral chords are quite entwined! He's in a very unhealthy job situation right now and at 1st he wanted to just quit and then he wanted to stay, then he wanted to quit again... I forgive him and try to help him with this matter all the time!! I also have my Jup opp his Sun (in Sagi no less!). Not sure what that does but it seemed important/relevant heh.

He's got his Jup conj my AC! I'm glad to know that he'll forgive me for just being my weird self!

P.S. Adding - Nope, not TOO forgiving IMHO. It seems just the right amount (at least in my case). I think that this is neat cuz I never realized that we both had angle-y Jup contacts!
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`Who are you?' said the Caterpillar. This was not an encouraging opening for a conversation. Alice replied, rather shyly, `I--I hardly know, sir, just at present-- at least I know who I WAS when I got up this morning, but I think I must have been changed several times since then.'
~Lewis Carroll

posted January 16, 2006 10:07 PM              

Betel, yes I meant towards this particular guy. I wouldn't say I'm too forgiving in general. My Jupiter is in Pisces conjunct MC/Vesta and Mercury. It also trines Pluto (Scorpio), sextiles Mars/Neptune (Capricorn)and squares Saturn (Sag).
That being said, I think it's important to let go of certain things, however negative, without holding grudges or seeking revenge.. so in that way, I *do* try my hardest to be forgiving. But when it comes to forgiving and “forgetting”, in the sense that you would let a person back into your life after having very negative experiences with them.. I'm not “forgetful” at all. I'm extremely wary and distrustful of people who have hurt me.. which makes me distance myself from them almost immediately. This doesn't mean I'd keep a grudge. It definitely doesn't mean I'd have something against them or harbour negative feelings towards them. I simply wouldn't want to get hurt again.. and if that's a real possibility.. I'd rather be safe than sorry.. so I wouldn't continue the relationship. With this guy, I feel sorry for him..and I feel as though, regardless of what everyone else around me seems to think, regardless of everything he has done, that maybe he’s still trustworthy and maybe I should give him “another” chance.. yet again.. It’s a very strange attitude for me to have lol..so I’m blaming it on Jupiter

Peri, thank you a lot for posting that.. very interesting!

posted January 16, 2006 11:24 PM              

Start by forgiving yourself for everything you have done recently and then there is a less of an emotional need to forgive someone else. If it's a birthday and you forgot it, remember it now and send that person a card.

The reason is clear, forgiveness relieves guilt, and we all collect guilt about living everyday. It feels good to forgive but it can be overdone.

Make it a habit to take care of your own business first, talk to other friends daily, take care of obligations and then spend time with your friend. The need to forgive will lessen over time.

I am the worst at this so take it from me, if there is something that you can't forgive yourself for, it feels good to forgive someone else instead. And for some reason Jupiterian people are very hard on themselves, they set different standards for themselves.