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hippichick
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posted January 17, 2006 12:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, I am getting back on the Aquarian thing again. I have really become ok with my Aquarian guy's detachment and lack of displayed emotion, but I have a question. Do any of you Aquarian males (or females involved with one maybe have seen this), tend to run away and hide when you feel you are getting emotionally close to someone? Do "feelings" of love or whatever terrify you to the point to where you need to get away for awhile? I repeatedly observe this phenomenon, is it an Aquarian thing or a personal issue? Thanks for replies!!!

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posted January 17, 2006 01:07 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have an aqua moon. I don't buy into the whole aquarians-have-no-emotions thing. Aquarians emote deeply when they want to, but do it behind closed doors. Aquarians like to deal with emotional issues by themselves. Thats why they will talk about emotions as long as you both keep a straight face, but don't expect them to get touchy-feely with you because they just want your advice so they can juggle it later on when they're alone. They don't like emoting around others because they feel foolish later on if they acted through their emotions. So they just suppress it until they're gone. And another thing a lot of people don't realize is that aquarians aren't as emotionally stable as they seem either (also a reason why they don't act emotional around others, they don't want to feel stupid). Their emotions change rapidly, going up and down within minutes. I swear, sometimes I think I'm bipolar. Another thing I've noticed in Aquarians I know is that they seem to have a baseline emotional level of being a little depressed and lonely. They don't have birth records that are even close to accurate in India, but I swear to God, my grandfather just HAS to be a double aquarius with possibly a scorpio or capricorn rising. Once in a blue moon he will laugh, smile or frown. Once he was deeply hurt and he only let out a single tear, before stifling it back. Then he walked into his room, locked the door, and came out ten minutes later happy as a clam, but of course, he wasn't smiling.

You will know an Aquarian wants your company when they take the initiative to make an emotional/mental connection with you. Basically, talk with them about their emotions as if they were bills to be paid.

Oh, last thing. Aquarians don't like petty emotional displays because they're childish. The emotion has to have a justifiable reason. Making an Aquarian respect you through his/her emotions requires action on your part. This is why Aquarians will ignore you if you make small talk and make false emotional displays like "awwwww, ur dog is so cute, look, I bought him a sweater.", but quite the opposite happens if you cancel your night out with your friends to help him/her out sort an important issue.

Basically, emoting happens implicitly, not explicitly.

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posted January 17, 2006 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mama Mia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a Aqua moon but I won't speak on my stuff Cause I also have Pisces Sun which rules over all..

I will go on the experience that I have had with Aqua men. They do have emotions and they run or can run quite deep actually. True like Oddball said they surpress them until they are all gone in alot of cases.

Also they are very uncomfortable with xpressing pyhiscal xpressions of love and will run from that. With some Aqua men you can be the best and they will run from you if the feelings are too intense for them to control. I have had this happen to me twice now by Aqua men.

They do just the opposite when it comes to xpressing feelings oppose to a earth signs and so forth..Patience is really a virtue with them..

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posted January 17, 2006 01:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hippichick .... hi ..

*** tend to run away and hide when you feel you are getting emotionally close to someone? Do "feelings" of love or whatever terrify you to the point to where you need to get away for awhile? ****

well .. i'm no aquarian ... but i do have Venus square to Uranus in my chart .. and what you said above .. well you hit the nail on the head .. so to speak ..

here's a link to my chart .. if you want to look for indicators of the above 'reactions' ...
http://www.happydragon.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/hd.chrt.jpg

be well

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posted January 17, 2006 01:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Before I married I seriously dated an AQUA man for 8 years. Whenever we would go away for a weekend, if everything was perfectly quiet, beautiful and romantic, I could set my clock to his being cold, surly, and detached for the week following. He was also quite prone to depression, self doubt.

As far the emotions thing is concerned, my Aqua had Cap in his chart as well. I would not say he did not have emotions. We all have feelings! I would say he was clearly not comfortable with his emotions, nor the messier ones (good and bad) of other human beings. He could get extremely angry, sort of verbally spewing. He would cry too (ie., the first time I broke up with him). I would say though that he simply could not stay happy for more than a few hours or a day at a time or really share a deep free frivolous happiness-- intimately one on one with a another human being.

This was a major reason why I eventually completely stopped communicating with him. If I had married him, I would have been commited by now. I do not pair well with persons whose feelings are a big mystery to themselves or others. My sense is we all have feelings ranging from yuck and hideous to glorious and lovely. The sooner we learn to get them out of our spinning head and in the company of another human, the better for everyone involved.

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posted January 17, 2006 01:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mama Mia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh Hey lilygirl, you just refreshed my memory on something. IT was the same way with my last ex-Aqua we would have a blissful time I mean just breath taking. And then once we left each other he would totally detach like I had done something.
It was crazy..again that was due to him attaching from those loving feelings that he could not understand.

What I have notice is that they do not have a problem with being with mean girls that hurt them and treat them bad they will hang in there with that and try and open up. She will know more then a women that treat them nicely knows. They are so left brain..

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posted January 17, 2006 01:44 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh my god MM!

Check this out. After we broke up (seriously) he moved to NYC where he dated a woman (a woman studying theology which is sort of ironic) who absolutely treated him like dirt. She spoke to him harshly, cheated on him, the whole nine yards and he ate it up; I mean literally lapped it up. It broke my heart. He broke my heart. For most of my life after that I thought the lesson was do not share your feelings openly and warmly. Wrong!!

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posted January 17, 2006 02:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thank you all for your wisom, esp oddball. i don't doubt that aquarian people have emotions, i just wonder if they don't repress them, like it is uncomfortable to feel. i am not the one doing the emoting here with this guy, i learned a long time ago with him that expressing my emotions will make him fly away fast! it seems though, that once he begins to feel something, and i have never discussed it with him, i don't have to, fish girl can feel it, that he evaporates into the thin, cool air that makes him so aqurian. for example, the last time we were together, he told me "you are a very warm and loving person." i replied yes, you are too but it seems to be smoldering inside you and i like to bring it out in you. his reply was "yes you do bring it out in me." i really think his own "feelings" scare him. i have not heard from him in a week, which is not terribly unusual, but i can feel when i am in his thoughts and i am the farthest thing from his thoughts at this time. i am not pushy or overt with him, since our last contact i have text messaged him twice, once to tell him i was "childless for the evening" (one of our lets get together inuendos) and once this morning saying "whats goin on?" i keep it light and airy with him, always using or something to let him know i am not being heavy because i dont want to scare him off. what do you all think?

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posted January 17, 2006 01:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mama Mia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Liliygirl it was the same thing with me. We broke up he wanted to be with this other girl, who I later found out from his boys was the exact same way you described this girl. And yes like you my heart was broke I could not believe that he left what we had for that. I just could not. But the killing part is he realized the difference after awhile and he still cared for me deeply and I knew it, but he did not know how to turn it around and come back, he just felt like he had messed up to badly. Oh I tell ya talk about twisted.. Lily we have alot in common girl...

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posted January 17, 2006 01:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mama Mia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh hippichick I do know about the Pisces/Aqua relationship think I told you that already. They do not have to say a word we just feel them totally. And see that is what scares them bc they get a kick out of being mysterious and stuff and we see through that. Just be patient and keep it light and do your thing. either that or or start to treat him like crap. And well if you are anything like this fish girl being mean to a man that you love won't happen..

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posted January 17, 2006 01:57 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hippichick,

I think that's fine as long as you are being TRUE to yourself and your nature.

Is he going to run away everytime you make a lovely and true statement about his feelings smoldering but being held inside. Pisces are often loving sensitive human beings. One reason why I strive to have even a meaningful friendship with my widowed father and Doc (both Pisces) is because they have a way of inspiring me to take my zero to 500 fire to an amazing gentle notch. The difference with an Aqua is exactly this thing right now that you are encountering. If you had made those comments to me, the Gemini in me would itch a bit to back up--to think about and analyze your comment but the fire in me would be very attracted to that. And forward we would go.

I know with my Pisces contacts if I start thinking I have to change completely to fit into their dreamy existence I might wilt and die emotionally. So I strive to balance the joy and hunger I feel for their gentlesness with the need to be more sensitive and perhaps less abrasive to receive that. This is to say, if you have to totally alter your intrinsically good Pisces traits to be with your Aqua, it won't work. There must be balance. You will know when his detachment is too much. It may bore a freezer burned hole in your heart. Just don't set yourself up to be the victim.

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posted January 17, 2006 05:34 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oddball -

quote:
You will know an Aquarian wants your company when they take the initiative to make an emotional/mental connection with you.

I love what you said here. Since they are not too overt with their wanting to connect, what would you say are examples of a sincere attempt? I mean, where the guy is really in love, and he's trying to take the initiative..

Thanks.


hippichick -

I agree with LILYGIRL, and I'll add, that the thing you need to watch out for most is NOT whether or not you have him hooked, but whether or not you know what your true emotional needs are. Know what I mean?

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posted January 17, 2006 05:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks all,
astro junkie, don't want to hook him any more than he could hook the elusive fish, just like his company, and i get the point about my emotional needs!
lilygirl, i am being true to my nature and myself as i realize all we really need we already have without another to support our own ego needs.
i am just so in touch with my innerself that i guess i am intrigued by someone who i am very arrtacted to who appears not to be in touch with his true self. really, i think we push the "learning" buttons for each other, his aquarius sun is conjunct my mars,jupiter and mercury in aquarius and my sun in pisces conjunct his jupiter, venus and mars in pisces. we may actually be so alike that it IS SCARY!
thanks again all!

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pinkfairy
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posted January 17, 2006 05:55 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
O

isnt their
symbol
the water
bearer?

highly emotional
people but
contained
within their
water carrier

they probably
know more
about
emotion
than all of
the other
signs
put together

they just
choose
not to display
their wares

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posted January 17, 2006 06:01 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was with an Aqua type who said I was too nice to respect and was a warm body to him, nothing more. For that reason I am sure niceness is the last thing Aquas want, because they are not nice, and accomodating, it makes them feel put upon to act a certain way.

Aqua is also ruled by Saturn and it helps to remember that. Saturn is about doing what other people do, outside standards, so a mean girl would have very exacting standards not based on love, based on career and her goals.

When I have been career based and ignore an Aqua for anything other than talk and career, I am respected. I suppose they feel lonely being surrounded by all those warm bodies they don't understand and have to be nice too! I know one Aqua who says he is always lonely no matter what-his goals are there but they change so he can't share them.

It must be hard to be Saturn ruled-goals, stability-and ruled by Air at the same time. Nothing is stable-Every Aqua I know has a really stable friend to guide him or her. Sometimes a Taurus-but I am always suprised at how goal-less all air signs can be, instead preferring to manage others.

I am getting better at putting myself out there to be managed, and save my warm feelings for an individual who is already close to me, clinging. Usually a pisces, or libra type.

I just can't get it together with a Capricorn, so I assume Aquas are the same, great friends, leaders, and confidants, but more or less like a boss, not a co-worker.

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posted January 17, 2006 06:44 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hippichick -

OK ... gotcha - we know there are some Pisces' girls out there who are struggling to hold on to their identity because they merge so easily with others, and consider others so much. Good to know you're doing it out of love and friendship for the Aqua. I've always thought Pisces & Aqua energies go very well together! It's a blessing.

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posted January 17, 2006 06:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
pinkfairy... COOOOOLLL!!!!!!!
this is why i LOVE to analyze the elements. so much can be learned from just the ELEMENTS!

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posted January 17, 2006 06:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks, natasha, very, very insightful!

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posted January 17, 2006 07:09 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
HC,

Just for the record, I am certainly not saying you are not being true to your nature! Good for you are if you are and remain so. I think what I am saying is this, His current silence may well be related to your "sensitive" comment about his hidden smoldering feelings which you have keenly sniffed out. That may or may not become a commonmplace incident for him---you keenly observing and he having to acknowledge the veracity of your conclusions and then internally panic (suddenly become unavailable when you send off "light" messages inquiring about his well being). It will probably not be something he admits to doing.

I would just be aware of it and wait and see. Meantime go for, enjoy yourself and his company. It may be a wonderful match.

Natasha you raise some interesting and provocative comments (as usual). Thanks.

"For that reason I am sure niceness is the last thing Aquas want, because they are not nice, and accomodating, it makes them feel put upon to act a certain way."

Uranus does not appreciate expectations and any degree of hemming in...

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posted January 17, 2006 07:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lilygirl, no offense taken, i intuitively know he has retreated because he felt something, just wondering if it is an aquarian thing (which it seems to be) or does the man have some deep-seated psychological issues! whatever the case, i do love his company, when i get it, and we are quite intellecutally matched. being with him has enabled me to learn detachment which has never been too much of a problem given my highly aquarian qualities, just when the heart gets involved...and by the way, this is a developing pattern for him. actually i like the sense of freedom he affords me and i need alot of time alone,i am ok being by myself, that is why i don't want to blow this, it is a good thing, just frustrating at times! he is much better for me than my ex---have you read the posts about my obsessive, clingy cancer! no way, not for me, i am much too independant for that!

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posted January 17, 2006 07:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hippichick
ok aquarius sun .. what is the rest of their chart ???

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I CANT STAND THE AQUARIUS FEMALES FROM MY LIFE!!! I have just had a full on crazy thing happen with one. ANDITS NOT THE FIRST TIME!! (With her and another feew with thire sun in that sighn.)
I think its not just males who are emotionaly detached. I have had two close relationships with two female aquariuses and they are what I would call emotionaly deformed!! They want you to trust them and share everything with them but they won't retun that. Then when they don't get there own way they chuck a BIG spaz at you.
I do however take in to concideration the enviromental influences on these two Im talking about. (Both there mothers died when they were young and I have strong maturnal insints evan though Im not a mother yet )
Moast of all I don't hold these experances against future aqu.sun people I meet. Although I will be cautious. Sorry. All this happed over the weekend and I feel so stupid for giving this girl a seccond chance. Thanks for listing to my speel.
By the way Im Scorp sun, sag moon and aqu asendant.

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posted January 17, 2006 07:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
approx birth time so aqu rising may be off,but probably not, have rectified chart with events and auqarius rising behavior
also:

jupiter,venus and mars close conj in pisces
mercury aqu
moon gemini (with stated birth time)
saturn virgo
neptune libra
pluto leo
uranus cancer
chiron cap
mc sag with given birth time(this also suits him)

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posted January 17, 2006 07:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueTopaz124     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was involved with an Aquarius guy last year (MM remembers him)...he did the detached thing and when I first met him, was thrown off by it (I notice everything and what I miss visually, pick up with my emotional radar lol) and kept pointing it out to him...I don't think anyone ever pointed out these things to him before...

One thing about him, though, and I think it's because his Mercury and Venus are in Pisces, so he really has a softer side that he lets show when it was just the two of us. Even during emotional conversations he was really able to connect (My Mercury is in Scorpio so we could REALLY connect during our talks), and knows how to connect well. This I give him a lot of credit for, he is not awkward or unfamiliar in this way at all.

But, he can detach and become very cold, but feel it is his way of appearing as though he is not emotionally connected or cares at all - this would usually happen when he was faced with a situation I knew how deeply he really felt but showed very much the opposite in his attitude and body language. One thing I did notice, though, is he was very very vigilant, watching intently like a hawk if it was me, but never let on that he was jealous. I knew though by things he would say.
I know him differently and know how deeply he is able to connect, so I know this detachment at one level is a form of protection, their face they show to the world. Most Aquarians, especially men, come across as ultra-cool in an upbeat, hip kind of way that isn't at all contrived. I like this about Aquarians. My Aqua guy has also criticised people for being 'out of control' or not having respect for themselve when they show emotion. So I know that much is true about an Aquarians' need to appear in control and calm on the surface, regardless of what is boiling underneath.

Maybe the reason Aquas throw people off is because they are able to stay detached when most people would show their emotions, and as Oddball pointed out, will sort things out by themselves in private.

I understand this because I also have an Aquarius moon (Sag sun) and don't like to cry or show emotions around people I don't know well or where it isn't appropriate (at work)...people assume I am detached because I come across as logical and more cerebral.

Hope it helps,
Laura

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posted January 17, 2006 07:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks laura, it does help alot! the funny thing is the things that anger me the most are the things i like about him as well! mine also has a sweet, gentle side with mars, venus and jup in pisces, and we connect well intellectually with his merc in aquarius and my merc, jup and mars in close conj in aqu. thanks again.
peace, love and light

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