posted January 18, 2006 05:54 AM              

Makes me feel down as ppl here have always found sags to be unfit for love comitments /married life, careless, no depth or intensity ,rolling stone,irresponsible, wavering,sarcastic tongue,indulging in backbiting, unloyal and wat not .... Feeling so inferior n like crying ..wish i were born with in anotehr sign iwth good placements(u know like libra ,cancer ,virgo , taurus as i always find that people admire many traits in them)

even teh reading on the day of month i was born 29 nov isnt helpful ...feels awful..
doesnt sag have any endearing traits ???

posted January 18, 2006 06:20 AM              

Sags commit or not but are so honest,crack the best jokes(I laugh on them), optimistic.
I think here some of knowflakes might had a bad expereince with Sag so they are bashing them left and right.

If Sags wouldn't there then who could have been able to enjoy all those sports and foreign culture.

Jean there is nothing like good or bad sign. There are good and bad traits in all. Some like virgos ,taurus, libras, cancers and some don't.Personally I don't like few traits in some sign even in my own Scorp sign.

By the way I am Scorp Sun. Do you know how much people like to say bad about Scorp. so well don't get worried about what people say. Hope that you can be a good person. That's it.

posted January 18, 2006 06:25 AM              

Don’t say that!! You need to be proud of what you are…don’t let anyone bring you down. Do what I do, act like your sign is the best and shove it down everyone’s throat

What’s nice about Sags

1. You’re easy to talk to
2. You’re funny, but not in a stupid way
3. You don’t get depressed - which mean I don’t get depressed around you

I’ll think of some more later

I did your chart, but what you need to do is go to astro.com and create an account, it’s free.

Here’s you chart

posted January 18, 2006 08:43 AM              

And he is the most wonderful person ever.
I think hes perfect actually. I mean he drinks a lot (Sag Sun in 5th. Taurus moon)
But he has the most kindest heart.
He is intelligent as hell (Sun Sag. Moon in 10th house. Merc Sag. Maybe Mars in Capricorn too. (Dunno so much!!!))
He is full of spontaneity and charm and all his friends love him.
Even when he is mad and you get hes mad, its most adorable.
I think he really gets life. Perfectly. He just lives in the moment completely. I already mentioned this in another post, but he really has the whole self-acceptance thing down to a T.
And all he really wants is someone to call his own. I love what his Taurus moon does to his Sun.
Im a lucky girl to have him in my life.

I know a few Saggies and I love them all.
The perfect mix of wit, charm, fun, seriousness..everything.

I personally would like to know more about the side of Sag they barely show and the one that is rarely talked about.
With Y, he mentioned how he feels alone and nobody really understands him. I just laughed it off as a dramatic moment (many houses in 5th But I took heed. I'm curious.
I'm just allowing him to occur to me and enjoy the moments with him rather than questioning him; making him feel self-conscious and in the process taking away the delight you garner from discovering something new about the person you love.

posted January 18, 2006 10:59 AM              

My daughter's a Sag, and I think that her endless optimism is amazing. Trust me, I'm a Cancer, and I too have felt like you have,"why couldn't I have been born under a better sign?" but then you learn to work with what you've got!

Have a great day!

posted January 18, 2006 11:09 AM              

NO FB , they dont crack the best jokes . libras do .

posted January 18, 2006 11:18 AM              

Since most of your planets are at the top of your chart, you focus most on the outer world.

Since most of your planets are at the right of your chart you focus most on others.

Since most of your planets are in the top right of your chart you use what you know about others to do things for them in the outer world.

You have a "bundle" chart. According to Tracy Marks from The Art of Chart Interpretation - bundle chart:

quote:

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All planets are contained within a trine - 120 degrees, or...a maximum of 130 degrees...self-contained, focused personality who resourcefully oncentrates...[their] energy upon a limited area of life, indicated by the signs and houses occupied by planets...This individual...has the capacity to develop...[their] resources to the utmost. The...[the first planet to have crossed the ascendant, moving clockwise] often indicates energy which may be used to achieve in the area of life indicated by the far midpoint of the bundle.

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The first planet to have crossed your Ascendant is Mars (being, also action) in the sign of its exaltation (strong energy), so you are active in your pursuit of understanding more about who you are (1rst house, being, is at the midpoint of your bundle).

Your life goal is to develop your self-expression (Leo (self-expression) modifying North node (future goals) focused in the 5th house (self-expression).

Chart looking,

Tim

posted January 18, 2006 12:43 PM              

Hey it’s just a passing phase. I (Sagi rising) too was bit down for past few days and it might have been Venus retro affect (which ends around 3 Feb). So hang on to your lovely smile, spring is around the corner to blossom your heart with love and peace.
Instead of wishing to be born under some other sign, develop the traits which are causing you to get hurt. Like if you don't like people saying "not committed to family life" (frankly don't take care what others say, believe in yourself) spend more time with your family. Do whatever you can with the Sagi enthusiasm. Take some time out for yourself and spend time with someone you care (or close with).

I don't know how a Sagi's family life is, however there dedication at workplace is another plus point. I respect the Sagi honesty, both females and males. Their sarcasm (mostly male Sagis, as females Sagis may not have sarcasm) is never hurting kind, its more of kidding. Also I find them honest. Plus the light hearted humorous interactions.
Especially at the moment when I am attracted to a Sagi, I can really say that their never ending smile on face is something which this world needs. As WN posted, there is no depression out there on Sagis, and you too shouldn't have that.

Boo,
I guess, emotional side is the one which Sagi's don't show, right? I think having emotional conversation is the best thing to do with a Sagi when he is in that mood (no real life experience) as that might be a good outlet for his bottled up emotions (if any). I guess one may not get that many oppurtunities to have emotional conversations with Sagis.

posted January 18, 2006 02:48 PM            

No one likes to embrace the "unevolved" aspects of their sign, but it is still present. Don't let the criticisms get you down, instead look at yourself and see where they apply.

Also.. from one Archer-lady to another, REREAD the posts on those topics. Most of the time we come across as a mystery to even those that have known us for years. Learn to express your vulnerablities and work on commitments... it goes along way. Also, there are WONDERFUL things said here about Saggie....

Here is something wonderful about us Saggies.. WE ARE ADORABLE LOL..... (or a doorbell).. Kidding..

posted January 18, 2006 03:49 PM            

Well-rounded, spiritual, philosophical, sound of body and mind, inspired and eminently capable of inspiring others, optimistic, humorous, generous, sensible, innovative, profound, informed on a vast array of disciplines, able to zero-in on the essential principle(s) and truth(s) inherent in most any given situation, and to express that awareness with startling clarity, honest and forthcoming, independent and noble in affections and sentiments, often unfettered by "small logic" or the subjectivity of dense emotions.

Just a Few Outstanding Sagittarians:

Sai Baba - spiritual leader
Mahara Ji - spiritual leader
Baruch Spinoza - philosopher
John Milton - epic poet
Rainer Maria Rilke - poet
Jane Austin - writer
Mark Twain - writer/humorist
William Blake - poet
Joseph Conrad - Writer
Alexander Solzhenitsyn - Writer/revolutionary
Gustav Flaubert - writer
Jimi Hendrix - Musician
Ludwig Von Beethoven - musician
Jim Morrison - musician
Friedrich Engles - Political Theorist
Bruce Lee - Martial Artist/Reformer
Emily Dickenson - poet
Sinead O'Connor - activist/musician
James Thurber - writer/humorist
Harry Chapin - musician
Wassily Kandinski - artist
Paul Klee - artist
Thomas Carlyse - writer
Akbar the Great - monarch
Andrew Johnson - U.S. President
Steven Spielberg - filmmaker

~ hsc
Sun,Venus, and Pluto (ruler of sun and midheaven) in the 9th
Mars/Merc angular in Sag trine angular Jupiter
Mercury in a "critical degree"
Jupiter in dynamic aspect to sun and moon
Neptune in Sag (singleton by house)

posted January 18, 2006 04:03 PM              

THEY...HAVE...BIG...BUTTS AND THEY CANNOT LIE!

posted January 18, 2006 06:07 PM            

you guys are really fun, and the whole "non commital" thing is totally not just a sag trait. i know plenty of sags who are able to commit, and a lot more than i can, and i'm a cancer.

posted January 18, 2006 06:51 PM              

Okay, she's my daughter, but I think she is one of the most free spirited, loving people I've ever met. Smart as a whip, loves to write, sing, decorate herself (??), etc. But she is a true saggi with saggi rising and taurus moon. She gets a little down because she thinks she'll be single forever, but the truth is that it's going to take someone special to catch her attention.