posted January 28, 2006 12:24 AM              

Normally I feel this with some Sag suns, in which thier Sun would be opposing my Sun or Venus while squaring my ASC and moon.

But this particular person doesn't have anything in Sag. He's a very secretive and dismissive of people. And I know he saves facee with people he despises. He acts like he likes me, but I question his sincerity and motivations. Normally I'm good at intuiting people but this guy's shady to me.

posted January 28, 2006 05:19 AM              

I read that a lot of semi-sextiles between two people's charts accounts for distrust. Have you looked at your 12th house? His planets in your 12th? Although, I don't necessarily approve of the 12th house theory but the semi-sextiles is a valid one.

What about Neptune contacts, GN?

posted January 29, 2006 04:40 PM              

I used to think it was Saturn that ruled trust but communication issues come to mind now. Mercury or Mars-plus squares with the ascendant mean non verbal communication is misinterpreted.

Right now I am having the biggest distrust fest with a Mars in Gemini because he just doesn't get mad, he just communicates things he doesn't mean, and gets his communication all jumbled so I can't understand. So frustrating also when I know what someone means but he or she won't let me know what is going on due to personal pride. I have to find out what the problem is, that's who I am.

posted January 30, 2006 08:05 AM              

On one hand I want to be trauting, and on the other I feel like I'm setting myself up if I did trust him - I percieve him as potentially either a hidden or open enemy, which made me think first of 12th adn 7th house contacts:

- His jupiter conjuncts my DC. That's not a issue
- His Pluto and Uranus fall in my 12th, which is typical of people born between 1958-1967, so that alone shouldn't be big deal.

However, his Uranus, which falls in my 12th, squares my Jupiter in Scorpio, which is in my 3rd, and my Saturn in Taurus, in the 9th. What do you think of that?

Natasha - his mars is in Gem, but doesn't tightly square either my Virgo ASC or Pisces Moon. But his Venus in Virgo squares my Venus in Gemini.

I wondered about Saturn - his Saturn is conjunct my NN. His Saturn is also conjucnt his SN.

His Merc quincunx my Mars - I wondered abotu that. My Aqua mars looks for reason not to trust people.

Neptune's Muse, there's a few semisextiles:

My sun - his Sun
My Merc - his Merc
My Pluto - his Uranus
My Uranus - his Neptune and Venus

Neptune aspects:

Aside from My uranus semisextiling his Neptune, there also...

My moon/DC trine his Neptune
My Asc sextile his Neptune
My Neptune trine his Uranus
My Neptune quincunx his Sun

posted January 30, 2006 09:33 AM              

you said:

I wondered about Saturn - his Saturn is conjunct my NN. His Saturn is also conjunct his SN.

so his saturn/SN is conjunct your NN, right? making his nodal axis opposite yours? (his SN - and saturn - conjunct your NN and his NN on your SN.)

just a thought, maybe this is a contributing factor, making you feel as if you are working at cross-purposes or something.

also, you said:

However, his Uranus, which falls in my 12th, squares my Jupiter in Scorpio, which is in my 3rd..

this kind of makes sense too, jupiter is the traditional ruler of your 7th house. so his uranus in your 12th is squaring your 7th ruler in 3rd. i would think this might cause some discord, is uranus prominently placed in his chart?

posted January 30, 2006 10:30 AM              

I confronted him about his personal life and asked if he was dating someone new, and that was why the moodiness. He said no, but he didn't trust some of the women he meets because they never seemed to have normal male friends, everyone is a romantic interest, and the competition gets him down. He is also looking for a wife, and said he would remain my friend as whoever he settled with had to respect his friends first.

So I get the feeling he makes a good friend, and a moody b/f who probably has little fights, tiffs, with his g/f. Money is another source of distrust with him, as in he worries others are making more.

One of my ex b/fs, had mars conjunct mercury in the 3rd and he made a good not so close friend, but very money oriented, competitive and moody.

I made it clear to my Pisces friend that I am not again looking for a boyfriend and didn't want to spend time with anyone who was actively hooking up, because it's not my thing these days. If he starts to act like he is hooking up, turning off his phone, acting moody, talking about girls. I will ignore him again.

It's normal to distrust strangers and let them into your life gradually,

Natasha

posted January 30, 2006 04:09 PM              

His Uranus is in Leo and in the 1st, conjunct his ASC by 2 degrees, so yeah it's prominant.

Natasha,

This guy is someone I'm considering doing a creative project with, but I can't do that if I feel like he's just going to screw me over in the end. My dilemmia is, if I'm wrong about this guy, I'll deny myself a fairly nicee opportunit. Plus everyone thinks it's a "no-brainer" that I should work with this guy and they all vouch for him, people are going to be asking why if I decide not to. And you knwo how it is with this art "scenes" - people get the wrong impression about you, then they blow you off.

posted January 30, 2006 09:23 PM              

Then give out your number and wait. If he calls then you can give your terms, if he is a flake he will never call. If you need him, and he is flaky then yes it's best to never get involved.

This particular pisces one made a deal with me which was that he got a particular job he will get me in and I can do the same. That's the best we can since for some reason he can't give or take, it's even steven or nothing.

There are some people who never want to see you get ahead of them, it's better to stick to a glass of wine once in a while, no competition.

I have a mars in Sag and I truly love to help people at work, so I believe mars in Gemini may like to socialize and relax more.

Natasha