posted February 01, 2006 10:30 PM            

I'm just a Pisces Mooner, not Sun, but this holds true for me too. Do you think it might be a level of compassionate interest that we unconsciously give off, that "fringe" personalities can pick up on intuitively??

I'd like to hear Swerve on this topic

posted February 02, 2006 09:51 AM            

I am real interested in ppl period and starting a new career in the very near future in Social work in the criminal field so I guess in due time I will be attracting and learning about all types, hey that is alright by me.. :-}

It is just what us Pisces do we are soulful and I think ppl can feel that.

posted February 02, 2006 10:17 AM              

Every woman he has been involved with in his adult life has had some major issue. addiction, mental illness, ect.
Two months into one relationship his partner revealed to him she was a prostitute!
He is a magnet to the strange and bizzare.

He met his current love a week before she was diagnosed with a >90% terminal disease. This one is an angel though, I pray she overcomes the odds.

Regards,

Focused Chi

posted February 02, 2006 05:37 PM              

I've considered myself a loner. The only time I (or somebody else) interacts into my location is when they ask me for directions, or to listen in on their conversations. But in general, I'm an peaceful loner.

posted February 02, 2006 07:11 PM              

On the one hand we can see the light in anyone's shadow. We are drawn to it, and the shadow to us in an attempt to break its psychic bondage, the sense of genuine recognition in a world of misunderstandings draws them in.

To them, we are the lighthouse that guides the ship home.

In us, I sense we know the pits within our experience, the way we have literally "been" them at some point in some lifetime, or at least tried to master or indeed be controlled by that same energy. We see ourselves in them, we feel compassion because we "know" what they are experiencing, because at one point in the karmic wheel we "were" them.

Very complicated subject.

Another point is that we have one foot in this world and one on the next, that energy itself runs through us, channeling itself and is ALL human experience. Hence, the connection with anyone and anything, at any stage or situation, because we are capable of knowing them in ways that go beyond either logic or emotion.

I believe Pisces is more than just a Water sign, it has a resonance that is of another element entirely and has no true frame of reference in this space and time continuum. Something beyond and something inside is how I would attempt to describe it.

I am very tired though, so will look at this again tomorrow rather than ramble aimlessly through half-closed eyes.

posted February 02, 2006 08:41 PM              

-Sun, Venus, Mercury, Jupiter, Chiron in 12th.

posted February 03, 2006 03:39 AM              

I wouldn't say addicts, however I did have friend circle which some others may not want to have.

In my childhood-teenage life, I used to have friends from both sides good and bad. Though I never was involved (or accompanied them) in doing anything bad. Bad in the sense, who would pick up a fight with other guys if something went wrong on some issue. Again the other guys at receiving end would be bad ones, as good ones would never get involved in such activities to pick a fight with bad ones. ..ohh have I confused you all ... back to the post, so probably yes I had friendship with these fellas and I never tried to judge them as others would.
At college also, I had friendship with groups of both types. At college the guys were not so called bad ones, just that they may not have been study oriented as compared to others.

Since then haven't been much in contact with such fellas or so called relatively odd ones. Maybe due to not being so much involved into social circles. I did have a intimate relationship with a CSA victim. She had fought and overcome lot of pain on her own, still she wanted to have some professional help. I used to always tell her all the time, that if I am there with her she doesn't require professional help to overcome any leftover effects.

posted February 03, 2006 05:58 AM              

Astro.com:
"Another common Neptune pattern that applies here, is that one of you sacrifices yourself to 'save' the other from some problem. This is usually the rankest form of self-delusion, because one or both of you is using this pattern as a device for working out your own hangups."

posted February 03, 2006 06:15 AM              

I don't agree with this assessment. I find it too one-dimensional a viewpoint. Reduces everything down to a logical point of choice.

I really don't think his view of Pisceans (which is quite prevalent I must add, so its not just yourself) addresses the issue from the right perspective.

It's far to much of a "nutshell" approach when trying to describe an energy that personifies understanding, empathy and the ability to drown in another person's experience through an echo of your own karmic journey.

Way off the mark, but with shades of a "truth".

Part of being a Piscean is learning to master this energy while the world invades your thoughts and your heart. We have to find a way to channel this and fulfill our potential, which is linked to others through our very essence and theirs.

Its like saying a doctor likes to fix people and make them better. Actually, even that isn't close to a good analogy.

I almost can't be bothered to justify this, although I'm aware you didn't mean any real offense.

posted February 03, 2006 07:44 AM              

I wasn't attempting any 'nutshell' approach to describing the sun-sign; that would be a pointless exercise in generalisation. I was alluding to the subject of karmic energy within such 'offbeat' synastries which arise sporadically in my experience. This 'saviour' complex is one of the more, er, sensitive manifestations, as far as I understand it.

posted February 03, 2006 07:49 AM              

But you must admit a quote that basically says messed up people flock together and try to heal each other while being deluded isn't a cleverly-disguised compliment now is it?

I've chilled out from this morning now anyway, hadn't had my coffee.

posted February 03, 2006 08:00 AM              

Clarification is something I have issues with, obviously, although I wasn't intending to compliment anyone - merely provide a point of conjecture from an original perspective.

posted February 03, 2006 08:11 AM              

I think maybe it was myself who was failing to be clear.

The compliment remark was humour, nothing more.

The point you made seems to state that Pisceans are drawn to saving people but are actually saving themselves and are deluded. When you add that maybe this is a karmic lesson it hardly removes the allegation of weakness and deception, which actually can fit some Pisces quite nicely.

My individual take on the situation is that Pisces are already a part of their experience as all human experience is of one source and one memory that isn't applicable in the current reality we occupy.

It isn't a choice, it is what we are melding with as we move from this phase of existance to the next and we have no conscious decision in the process.

Where this may bring your point in is that part of this journey is communicating and interacting with others while here, and the tests and tribulations we face or throw ourselves into. Here is where while seeking to understand ourselves against the backdrop of our impending transition we have relationships with those around us and seek to find ourselves in them, themselves in us. Thats the entire point really. Compassion then becomes something else as you are almost giving to yourself in a way as one kindred or combined spirit.

But deluded? No. Any complexes? Hardly.

I also have my Ascendant Square my Sun (though they are Pisces and Scorpio).

posted February 03, 2006 09:06 AM              

Well, deluded in that the pisces ego may have different reasons why it enters into such relationships, as to what it thought experience would have provided at the end. I'm not in any way insinuating that pisces (or those pre-associates) go out of their way everyday in the effort to deceive themselves, but that it can, and does happen in these unusual types of relationships (in my experience), and usually have a positive result. I might be repeating us both here, though.