posted February 05, 2006 12:04 PM              

I'm SPECIFICALLY directing this question to your CHART. To the structure of your CHART. ASTROLOGICALLY speaking.

(I know it can be difficult, but TRY to withhold cute quotes or anecdotes, or motivational speak, or reasons why astrology has nothing to do with this. Focus.)

Example: When you've just seen a bunch of sad news stories, whether they occurred in the past or present, and you've been socked in the gut and waiting for some kind of explanation you can live with.

Is it your Venus kicking in first, bringing an answer to you? Is it your realist Saturn stepping up first? Is it your spiritual Neptune or Pluto? Is it your afflicted or non-afflicted Jupiter? And don't forget the Houses, if you think they may come into play.

This has to do with faith, and what you think contributes to keeping it in its rightful place in your CHART.

AND, this goes BEYOND your first reaction, such as anger. I'm talking about, what you think IN YOUR CHART helps you pull it all together.

I'm still thinking about my answer, but wanted to put it out there for now. Thanks.

posted February 05, 2006 12:10 PM              

i'm thinking.

posted February 05, 2006 12:38 PM              

Shock
Hurt
Confusion
Slight depression
( all Pisces Sun )

Anger
Frustration that I can’t do anything - that I have to just sit there and watch and let it happen
And don’t even mention a dying cause
( I’m thinking idealistic Aries Mars and Venus )

Acceptance - that “these things happen”
( I’m thinking Pisces Sun turning a blind eye - putting on my rose coloured glasses to get over the pain )

Detachment
Pretends I don’t care - that it doesn’t bother me - that it doesn’t hurt
( combo of - Pisces Sun and Aqua Mercury)

Hopefulness
Optimism - things will get better
( Jupiter conj Uranus in Sagittarius )

posted February 05, 2006 12:40 PM            

You're talking in terms of acceptance in things you can not change right?

When you get close to losing or questioning your faith right?

Thats pretty much a Jupiter thing

posted February 05, 2006 05:41 PM              

And then maybe my Uranus in Leo in the 4th House, and, my NN in Leo in the 4th.

It's ironic that I'm always biatching that my 4th is jinxed. But maybe that's why I keep going back to it and finding some glimmer of hope, in the forms above.

My Jupiter is in Capricorn Conjunct my Saturn in the 9th. And even though Jupiter is in its natural House, the Conjunction with Saturn seems to take a lot of the mometum out of it. Somehow, I just don't think it's my Jupiter. Even though I've got Jupiter Trine my Ascendant.

My Venus Sextile Neptune may give me hope too, no matter how impractical.

I can definitely make a connection with my MC in Aquarius Trine my Sun in Libra.

That's about all I can figure right now.

posted February 05, 2006 06:53 PM              

I'm going to start a thread on the MC & Saturn ...

posted February 05, 2006 07:13 PM            

My Mercury is in the 8th House in natal opposition with Pluto. I rarely ever get into arguments. But when I do, I win. I don't like being told what's wrong or what's right. I hate that blanket statement. Ughhhh. What's right for one person isn't right for all. It truly annoys me when I see someone touting their beliefs as fact. If it's so factual, then where are the facts? Huh? Ughhh. Mercury is also the ruler of my Ascendant. But, being a Virgo Rising, I can be kind of shy when I'm not comfortable. When I am, though, and someone does as such, I can get a pretty smart mouth...unfortunately.

My Mars...well. It's in Aquarius. And I definitely don't like being told what to do. I seem to have a little trigger in my head. Well, not really a trigger, but I can't think of a better word. Whenever someone tells me to do something, whether they're rude in doing it or not, I always interpret it as someone ordering me to do something when they have no place to do so. In which case...I promptly make a smart remark, shove my nose in the air, and walk the other way.

posted February 06, 2006 08:50 AM              

If I'm angry,It's obviously my entire 8th house..

If I'm depressed,just been beaten etc...It's venus,I listen to a lot of music get my mood back,get ready to fight again,I guess neptune plays a part too,cause I imagne myself overcoming the obstacle...