posted February 11, 2006 03:39 PM              

I'm havin a lil trouble with a sag sun/scorp mars

I've been very close to physically flippin out at him in college, but won't do that since I'd risk being thrown out of college.

We've had some heated arguments and at the moment I seem to be winning this battle, because he's not particularly good at arguing and is best at using profanity, which is not very intelligent nor effective, while I slaughter him with harsh analyses of his personality..

Me:

Sun Cancer 27°51'05 10 direct
Moon Libra 08°38'22 01 direct
Mercury Cancer 12°57'14 10 direct
Venus Gemini 18°11'02 09 direct
Mars Aries 02°52'15 07 direct
Jupiter Taurus 29°43'05 09 direct
Saturn Sagittarius 27°12'07 04 retrograde
Uranus Sagittarius 27°53'56 04 retrograde
Neptune Capricorn 08°17'12 04 retrograde
Pluto Scorpio 09°45'33 02 stationary (D)
True Node Pisces 15°02'13 06 direct

Ascendant Virgo 25°37'32
2nd House Libra 17°54'10
3rd House Scorpio 17°04'39
Imum Coeli Sagittarius 23°58'31
5th House Aquarius 01°46'16
6th House Pisces 02°09'48
Descendant Pisces 25°37'32
8th House Aries 17°54'10
9th House Taurus 17°04'39
Medium Coeli Gemini 23°58'31
11th House Leo 01°46'16
12th House Virgo 02°09'48

Sun Trine Mars 5°01
Sun Sextile Jupiter 1°52
Sun Quincunx Saturn 0°39
Sun Quincunx Uranus 0°03
Sun Sextile Ascendant 2°14
Moon Square Mercury 4°19
Moon Opposition Mars 5°46
Moon Square Neptune 0°21
Mercury Opposition Neptune 4°40
Mercury Trine Pluto 3°12
Mars Sextile Jupiter 3°09
Mars Square Saturn 5°40
Mars Square Uranus 4°58
Mars Square Neptune 5°25
Jupiter Quincunx Saturn 2°31
Jupiter Quincunx Uranus 1°49
Jupiter Trine Ascendant 4°06
Saturn Conjunction Uranus 0°42
Saturn Square Ascendant 1°35
Uranus Square Ascendant 2°16
Neptune Sextile Pluto 1°28

Him (house positions are not correct, cuz I don't have his birth time)

Sun Sagittarius 15°15'33 03 direct
Moon Cancer 14°37'44 10 direct
Mercury Sagittarius 06°46'11 03 direct
Venus Capricorn 12°13'06 04 direct
Mars Scorpio 09°01'33 02 direct
Jupiter Aries 19°51'51 08 retrograde
Saturn Sagittarius 22°37'44 04 direct
Uranus Sagittarius 26°12'36 04 direct
Neptune Capricorn 06°53'23 04 direct
Pluto Scorpio 11°15'38 02 direct
True Node Pisces 28°54'58 07 retrograde

Sun Quincunx Moon 0°38
Sun Trine Jupiter 4°36
Sun Conjunction Saturn 7°22
Moon Opposition Venus 2°25
Moon Trine Mars 5°36
Moon Square Jupiter 5°14
Moon Opposition Neptune 7°44
Moon Trine Pluto 3°22
Venus Sextile Mars 3°12
Venus Conjunction Neptune 5°20
Venus Sextile Pluto 0°57
Mars Sextile Neptune 2°08
Mars Conjunction Pluto 2°14
Jupiter Trine Saturn 2°46
Saturn Conjunction Uranus 3°35
Neptune Sextile Pluto 4°22

now this guy is a little bigger than me.. same height, but he weighs 10-15 kgs kgs more than me...I weigh 70 kg and he weighs around 80-85 kgs..not fat, just a lil chubby/muscular..so that's a factor that stops me from confronting this guy physically because I know that I might just end up gettin a painful beating, even though I've been hittin the gym for a while now and am quite pumped myself, so I could probably give him a few hard blows myself..

Main question is:

Is mars in aries astrologically speaking capable of beating the crap out of mars in scorpio? No, I'm not saying that I wanna get into a fight with this guy...

but odds are on my side at the moment, because another mars in scorpio, is like me, at conflict with this guy and got into a fight with him 2 days ago..it looked very heated but they stopped after 2-3 mins after a lil head-locking...and it pleased me a lot to watch it, cuz the sag actually seemed to lose that battle lol..

and this mars in scorp I'm talkin about has a chart that looks like this(house positions are not correct):

Sun Capricorn 04°38'16 04 direct
Moon Pisces 28°47'58 06/7 direct
Moon is technically near the end of house 6 and is interpreted in house 7.
Mercury Capricorn 06°43'22 04 direct
Venus Aquarius 05°47'35 04 direct
Mars Scorpio 21°35'07 02 direct
Jupiter Aries 19°59'32 07 direct
Saturn Sagittarius 24°52'37 03 direct
Uranus Sagittarius 27°21'38 03 direct
Neptune Capricorn 07°35'43 04 direct
Pluto Scorpio 11°51'51 02 direct
True Node Pisces 27°03'15 06 direct

Sun Square Moon 5°50
Sun Conjunction Mercury 2°05
Sun Conjunction Uranus 7°17
Sun Conjunction Neptune 2°57
Sun Sextile Pluto 7°14
Moon Square Mercury 7°55
Moon Sextile Venus 7°00
Moon Trine Mars 7°13
Moon Square Saturn 3°55
Moon Square Uranus 1°26
Mercury Conjunction Neptune 0°52
Mercury Sextile Pluto 5°08
Mars Quincunx Jupiter 1°36
Jupiter Trine Saturn 4°53
Saturn Conjunction Uranus 2°29
Neptune Sextile Pluto 4°16

well, mars in aries(me) vs mars in scorpio(the sag)...who'd win?(once again, not considering fighting him, just askin)

bye

posted February 12, 2006 01:17 AM            

I thought Aries Vs Scorpio?
Who's been in my house this weekend?

We both lose.
Then apologize.
Then have make up sex.
Then probably do it again the next time he's impatient and misunderstanding me, and I am cold and hurtful.

posted February 12, 2006 03:24 AM              

You're right...and I'm not the type that likes to fight either, but one day I got really ****** at this guy. We were doing a physics assignment, and I told him about an error he made, not to criticize, but to help him. Instead of taking against my advice he aggressively pushes me off my chair :S...since that day he's been the weirdest person I've ever known..I confronted him with it a few times after, but he can't admit that what he did was wrong. He keeps saying that I said it too loud in front others and embarrased him etc, even though I very clearly know that I wispered it to him very quietly..anyway I don't wanna confront him with it anymore cuz its a waste of my time.

Pixie: NO I didn't know that

thx for your comments people.

posted February 12, 2006 10:24 AM              

Anyone who would push you off your chair in response to your offer of help (unless he was totally joking) is probably not someone you want in your life long-term.

AG is right about one thing -- you are surrounded by tons of people who won't push you off your chair. Hang out with them instead

posted February 12, 2006 06:48 PM            

It may have been embarrassing to him, but if he had any social skills (or maybe jsut common sense) he'd realize that it wasn't something to get embarrassed over.

You've got to force him into a position where he has to think really hard about how he wants to relate to you. Here's how I would do it. Next time you do get the opportunity to embarrass him, do it, and maybe even go so far as to point it out to him, so he realizes the difference between you saying something in a way that doesn't embarrass him versus you saying something in a way that does embarrass him. Make sure you do it in public, so he looks even more foolish if he tries to start a fight. If you embarrass him by correcting him in class like the last time, tell him you're not going to fight him because he can't figure out a simple math problem.

Doing this will establish boundaries for you. I know Cancers often have trouble creating boundaries between themselves and other people. After you do that, he will have to think harder about every action he takes around you (Does he want to sit by you in class? Does he want you to be able to see the answers he's coming up with? Can he say something without you making fun of him?). Chances are he won't trust you. That's a good position to be in, because he'll either leave you alone, or he'll realize that you only reacted that way because you were pushed, and he will try harder to gain your friendship.

I did something similar to this while I was in the Navy, and the guy acted like he wanted to fight me for a few days, then he ignored me, and then he started treating me better than he ever had before.

posted February 13, 2006 03:44 AM              

Well, a few days after the chair-incident I ignored him...

but the problem is that we're both very social people, so those people he hangs out with, I hang out with them too..I've been forced to say hi etc to him a few times, even though I don't want to, I really hate him.

Another thing: He controls/buys friendships with people by spending money on them(for food in the pauses etc.)

On thursday I was going out with two of my friends, then he comes and asks us if we need a lift..my friends accepted it(one of them was there when the chair-incident took place, but he thinks I'm over it, which I'm not)..so I was kinda forced to go with them, cause I didn't wanna go out alone lol..anyway the chair-flipper was alright in the car, but this doesn't mean I'm friends with him again..that was just one day I was forced to be nice towards him..but I must try to stay as far away from as possible, cuz he could freak out any time again.

Rupesh G:

LOL I know what ur answer would be!
I think I'll go for the others' answers right now

Waternymph:

Yes he IS crazy..I remember a day we were going to a theater-show in his car..so on the ride to the show he kinda crossed the speedlimit, and we saw a red flash, i.e a police-camera had taken a picture of us..after this he became totally paranoid and panicky and began to drive veryyy slowly. Then there was a side-road, for taxis only, he drove in there. New problem: He can't get through now because there's something in front of him, a cycle on the ground..and it was also allowed for cyclist to ride through there...a cyclist comes from behind who wants to pass by him, then opens his window and starts yelling like an idiot at the woman who wants to pass by. He opens the car-door and at that moment we all thought he was gonna beat the life out of the woman, but luckily he just removed the cycle..but the only thing the woman did was to knock on the back-window of the car to ask for permission to go and he freaked out :S...so crazy(and easily stressed)? INDEED.

AG:

You're right, there is something wrong with him and I've noticed it for some time now...
I've done that embarras-thing, but not in front of the whole class...I might do that, cuz he is pretty dumb and never does his homework so that shouldn't be too difficult for me.

Does he want to sit by me in class? He did that once after the incident; because we had some group work to do and he was is in my group!

Does he want me to be able to see the answers he's coming up with? Has done, doesn't do now..

He's alright at the moment, but he still doesn't understand that what he did was wrong..well, the best thing for me to do right now is just to ignore him...but it's also a little difficult to embarras him because he's very dumb and sometimes won't even understand if he's getting mocked.

By the way, I haven't mentioned this, but he has a very weird impression of me. He thinks I like to gossip about him :S.

When the chair-incident occured, I was correcting him very quietly, so no one could hear it, but in his mind I was yelling it out loud.
I confronted him later and he told me that one of the people in the room asked him about that error later.

Then another day:

In class, one of my friends placed his ciggarets-pack on his back.
Ali(the chair-flipper) takes a couple of smokes(just for fun, he doesn't smoke)..
I alert my friend(for fun): "look at ur smokes pack"..my friend then went over to Ali.

Ali got serious! He started calling me a sneak etc and became vbery angry with me and brought up the "error"-incident and I was like "chill out dude :S"

Notice: I only pointed out the smokes-thing for fun, nothing to get all serious about..

he just confirmed to me that he's NOT NORMAL.