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nove731
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From: Strasbourg, France
Registered: Jun 2009

posted February 13, 2006 04:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nove731     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lately...I've been going through periods of not wanting to be around people. Actually, it's not lately, I've always been like that. I have issues with people. I can't stay around them for long periods of time, or I get very irritable. It's not even just people. I hide out a lot when I'm trying to avoid confrontation. I can't deal with it. It makes me sick. Literally.

Is there anything in my chart that could show that? Descriptions of my Sun Sign are always talking about how Aries is a sign that confronts their problems, but I'm not so much like that.

Even right now. It's not so much that I'm having a confrontation with this person, but they have such a way of making me feel like crap. I honestly don't think they even try to do it, but they do. In some ways, I'm so envious, because they get everything they want, when they want. They never have to really work for anything. But also, just their general prescence makes me depressed. Which, I guess is odd, because they're such a happy-go-lucky type...hrm. I keep trying to avoid them, but it doesn't work. They won't take the hint and go away. I especially don't want to confront them, because there's no really nice way for me to say that they make me feel like crap. I don't want them to think I'm a jackass, and I don't want them to be upset, because they're nice, but they just make me feel so crappy.

Anyway.
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CancerianMoon
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posted February 13, 2006 04:54 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nove i understand the avoidance and wanting to slink back into your own shell..you think its a way of self presevation..
Cancerians are the master avoiders!
But in the past year ive learnt to confront the issues that make me avoid "big time"..i still enjoy stepping back sometimes to refresh and renew..
i was suffering anxiety,depression,indigestion and general aches and pains..after 2-3 years of this and being utterly sick of it i started to write in a journal when i felt any of these things..and i noticed the issues that were causing my pains were those of issues with others which i always avoided or just kept inside but they affected me profoundly emotionally and physically...so i decided then that i didnt want these issues CONTROLLING ME...so i started conronting them...boy it was difficult..and still is..sometimes i have to force myself..and my family especially had a difficult time with this...as id always been the one to shut my mouth no matter what...but now i feel so much better in myself...im still tactful and caring....but i dont wannna hold issues in to affect me health wise and mental wise..i guess the other big lesson is that you can never make people respond how you want them to...but your in full control how YOU react to them..
This person that makes you feel like crap im sure is here to teach you something..if there is no real reason why you should feel this way..try joining in on thier happy go lucky...or if that aint possible..you need to say how you feel..tactfully of course..but dont hold in how you feel when its making you ill...this persons feeling dont over rule yours..avoidance in its raw term, to me, means allowing others feelings be of more importance than your own..its your choice...keep in mind that you are unique and lovable and that your just as important as anyone and everyone else...give yourself the same thoughtfulness as you give to others

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wilsontc
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posted February 13, 2006 05:04 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
nove,

You currently have Pluto (transformation, also power) conjuncting (energy is combined with) your Nadir (inner world). This is a time when we throw out all those things in our life which are only holding us back and build up our power by focusing on the things which matter. It is early in your life to be going through such a large, transformative time, but it will help you greatly develop your personal power after it is completed. This is a LONG transit, so it is best to accept that you are going to be transformed inwardly over the next few years and allow yourself to become the person you are becoming.

Becomingly,

Tim

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nove731
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From: Strasbourg, France
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posted February 13, 2006 05:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nove731     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tim,

But what does that mean? To me that sounds so...vague.

CancerianMoon,

Well. I've never had the problem to that extent. I just get stressed out, and a little anxious about it.
I keep trying to let this person go peacefully out of my life. I know I bring them down, and I don't enjoy knowing that. I'm very much so a happy-go-lucky person when I'm not around them. As soon as I get around this person, I just get...depressed. And sad. And it's not fun. It took me so long to originally get this person out of my life. And that sadly only lasted four months (Summer vacation).

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CancerianMoon
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posted February 13, 2006 05:42 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nove..i never felt it at a younger age either but years and years of avoiding leaves issues deep within us..this is why i responded here..just wanted to tell you how its affected me..i see your main issue is with 1 person right now?? If someone is "poison" to you then you do need to make efforts to understand why if at all possible(when i say poison i dont mean that that person is bad in themselves..i just mean for you they are toxic)..and also to free yourself from them..what is it that stops you from being away from them permanently?

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pidaua
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From: Back in AZ with Bear the Leo
Registered: Apr 2009

posted February 13, 2006 05:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Nove,

I hear ya fire sister.. LOL.. I am a Sag Sun (conjuncts my IC or Nadir) and I also have transiting Pluto sitting right on top of it.

I went through a major domestic unheaval and then started to come out of the old shell... only to have a wee bit of a set back and went back into hiding for about a month LOL....

I think it is natural to go through it- but as a fire sign we sometimes feel guilty for taking that time of retreat (not to mention we always get 50 million people asking us - where were you? what happened..LOL).

Tim is absolutely right about T-pluto on the IC.. it is a time of inner change and domestic change. Not many people experience that in their lifetimes (that makes us either lucky or unlucky..depending on how you see it).

Go with it though.. it gets better

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wilsontc
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posted February 13, 2006 06:18 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
nove,

You asked:

quote:
But what does that mean? To me that sounds so...vague.

In your case it has to do with:

quote:
I've been going through periods of not wanting to be around people...I hide out a lot when I'm trying to avoid confrontation...this person, but they have such a way of making me feel like crap...just their general prescence makes me depressed...They won't take the hint and go away...there's no really nice way for me to say that they make me feel like crap.

Each person who has Pluto on the Nadir has their own personal experience of it, but in all cases it results in deciding who and what will remain part of our lives and who and what will not. I suggest that someone who "make me feel so crappy", whether they want to or not, is someone who you want OUT of your life. An astrologer I used to go to said something that has stuck with me my entire life, "It is better to be alone than to be with someone who makes you wish you were alone."

Plutonically,

Tim

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