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kindjali
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posted February 23, 2006 08:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kindjali     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi, this is my first post here and I consider myself amateur. I am writing from Zagreb, Croatia.
My friend recommended me this forum. He is good astrologist but he said that ppl here could help me even more, so I will appriciate some experts help and advice considering my problem.
Well I have big emotional problems inside, it is connected with my ex.

We met last year in January on 8th January 2005. We were 3 months in relationship. It was fatal for me and first time in my life I thought for somebody that I want to spend life with. It was hihgly energetic relationship love me/hate me. We were too proud and selfish, couldnt settle down things so we broke in April. I tried to settle things down but she was proud like always. She had been in 2 short relationship and in June she met Cancer man. She was in relationship with him till 1 month ago (but I am not sure she broke). That was her longest relationship as I know, and she is person that cannot be 1 month without somebody. Never learned to be alone and she wants community, kids, stability and love.

All that months from June we are in some kind of fight. She ignores me, denies that she passed near my firm time through time, secrt calls. I wrote her many love mails, SMS, tried to take her out to coffee to explain what I will and what I think about everything...useless...She ignored me all the time but I felt she loves me and that she is ii somekind of fight with her heart and brains...Last week I tried to talk with her regarding her broke up with her ex and hearing that she finnaly wants to give me second chance (through my friend) but we had major fight where she said that is still in relationship and that she is getting married. I am confused...and emotionally dead inside.

PPl, please help. Is it over? Is she returns to me? Any aspects and transits this months that will maybe move her to me or this is end over story? Gonna life give us second chance to finnaly open ourself to each other? Or we have different life paths?

I am: 26th December 1976, 6:15 AM, Zagreb/Croatia

She is: 5th January 1979, 5:25 PM, Zagreb/Croatia

Thank you in advance

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wilsontc
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posted February 23, 2006 10:59 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
kindjali,

In looking at relationships, it helps to look at each person separately and then to look at each person together. Since you have listed some specific issues, I will focus on those issues and how your charts indicate those issues. You have Venus (relationships) trine (energy goes easily with) Pluto (transformation, also power, control), indicating you either are easily in control or are easily controlled in relationships...it seems in this relationship you are being controlled. In addition you have Venus sextile (energy goes very easily with) Neptune (spirtuality, also confusion, idealization), indicating you are confused about relationships and tend to idealize them. You also have Venus square (energy needs to be combined with) Uranus (friends, also impulse), indicating you may get into relationships impulsively and may tend to want to "friends" in relationships: close but not TOO close.

She has an unaspected (strong energy) Venus (relationships), indicating she does not "connect in" to relationships. As a result, she may have MANY relationships in an effort to "feel" related to others.

Looking at the two of you together, your Sun and Moon connect, so there is a "connection" between you. Looking at the interconnection of personal planets (Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, and Mars) there are some challenges, but mostly the energy is easy or at least compatible. Let's look at Pluto (transformation, also power, control) to see why she has such control over you. Her Pluto squares (energy needs to be combined with) your Sun (self-expresion), opposes (energy is over-excited by) your Moon (home, also emotions), and squares your Mars (being, also action). In other words, she can control your self-expression, emotions, and actions.

You tend to idealize relationships, getting into them impulsively and then pretending that they are perfect. You also tend to be easily controled in relationships. She has a challenge simply recognizing what a "relationship" is and feels the need to prove that she can "relate" to others...so she wants to relate to as many as possible.

Between you on a personal level, things can be sometimes easy, sometimes challenging. Things are different on a "power" level: she has the power and you follow her rules.

I suggest you get out of this controlling relationship, take the time to find a healthy relationship, and be open to when people are overpowering you in a relationship so you can either back away or get away, depending on what is needed. You have the relationship power in you, it is a matter of stopping HOPING everything will be perfect and begin MAKING everything perfect in your relationships.

Relating,

Tim

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posted February 23, 2006 03:18 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Classic analysis Tim! It is high time to begin copy pasting many of your replies for our further studies.

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kindjali
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posted February 23, 2006 03:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kindjali     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for your answer. Could somebody look at progressions and transits?
Is there anything that will get us together again, atleast give us chance. I mean from her side...

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kindjali
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posted February 23, 2006 03:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kindjali     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is tearing me apart people, Is there anything that I hoped all year, her comeback to me in next 3 months? Our story never ended in the way that we all could move on...Anything?

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posted February 23, 2006 03:36 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Man to Man, I honstly tell you, YOU DESERVE SOMEONE BETTER. Feel the manly fire in your belly and ask yourself, "Do you deserve to be treated this way?"
Croatia has tons and tons of wonderful girls. You will easily find someone better who knows how to treat you right and accept your sincere love.
Chin up and cheer up, brother.

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kindjali
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posted February 23, 2006 04:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kindjali     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know, and thank you for advice. We all know that ideals doesnt exist and I have in months strange feeling it is not over. With Moon is Pisces it is hard for me to go on. I met 20-30 girls in last year and no one immpressed me even for advanture..

I just came here to ask experts can they see something in next 3 months regarding transits and proggresions between and for us.

I will appriciate and be grateful for some knowledge, so I could atleast see clearly a bit.

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wilsontc
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posted February 24, 2006 12:06 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
kindjali,

In my opinion, transits or progressions in your chart or hers will do nothing to affect this relationship. She has the power and will to decide when or if to let you back into the relationship when she decides to do so.

Powerfully,

Tim

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zeldatiara
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posted February 24, 2006 01:58 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi kindjali,
Nice to *meet* you ; )

Some things in your posts remind me of how I've felt in the past.I definitely had some exes who had the upper hand, and I just would not accept they had ended things. It hurt a lot.
You said:

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Our story never ended in the way that we all could move on...

This is exactly how I felt about those relationships ending. I felt I was left hanging. Unfortunately, some like to leave the other hanging, and sometimes it doesn't happen on purpose, it just works out like that. Either way, IMO, you do have to move on and past this.You can move on, you just didn't have an ending that satisfied you, and again, I sympathize, but right now- would any ending satisfy you?

Tim said:

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Things are different on a "power" level: she has the power and you follow her rules...[she] will to decide when or if to let you back into the relationship when she decides to do so.

Iqhunk said:
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...ask yourself, "Do you deserve to be treated this way?"

This is classic cat-and-mouse. Obviously, I don't know her, but this person is not treating you with respect. If there's no respect, there can be no useful relationship.

Tim also said:

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be open to when people are overpowering you in a relationship so you can either back away or get away, depending on what is needed. You have the relationship power in you...

As always Tim summed it up perfectly ; ). I highlighted this because I had to go through this transformation.I often 'gave my power away,' and had to learn to be observant in a new way so that I could give and receive, and that it would finally be healthy.I was at a point where I even wondered if I could participate in a healthy relationship. Basically, I'm just trying to say, of course it is very difficult to let go, but put yourself first and care for YOU.Respect yourself and these lessons will integrate, and you'll be ready for an equal and loving realtionship.

~ Zelda

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"To see, to hear, means nothing. To recognize (or not to recognize) means everything. Between what I do recognize and what I do not recognize there stands myself. And what I do not recognize I shall continue not to recognize."
-Andre Breton

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