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redbubblesbleed
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posted February 25, 2006 07:34 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted February 26, 2006 12:03 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry to hear about the hard times. As you can see from other posts here, you're not alone!

I'm not the best at Solar Return Charts, but from what I can see, perhaps you will have some frustrations with being able to express yourself fully. Maybe some delays or a sense of having to yield to others more. Maybe that is the lesson to "mature" you.

It's like you are really defining the way you express yourself when it comes to your Cancerian ways, and how it fits into the home environment you want to create. Are you feeling anything like that?

Remember that it's probably more accurate for you to enter "h13" in EXTENDED CHARTS when it comes to your "lilith", rather than using the option in their dropdown menu.

If you do that, post your edit so I can check that too. I'm looking at something else that may be at work. But then again, remember that I'm learning as I go.

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posted February 26, 2006 12:09 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Red,

You said:

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I'd really appreciate if someone could shed some light in my solar return chart...Last year has been one of the most difficult for my mind, heart and soul... I wonder if things will get any better!?-I'm specially curious about that Pluto in Sag in the 7th -opposing my moon... new stormy love?..

You have a Grand Square between the Nodes, indicating that this coming birthday year the challenges for the year will be about developing your yearly goals. With North node (yearly goals) focused in the 10th house (duty), the goal for this year seems to have to do with accepting responsibility. Pluto (transformation, also power) focused in the 7th house (relationships) near the 8th house (transformation, also power) and Moon (home, also emotions) foucused in the 1rst house (being, also action) near the 2nd house (physical, also values) is part of this Grand square. This indicates that there is a balancing act going on between power issues with other people (Pluto in the 7th near the 8th) and taking action on what you "feel" is correct (Moon in the 1rst near the 2nd). So you may feel that people are trying to take your power by telling you what is "best" for you, and you will need to check how you feel about the situations and make your own decision.

Pluto power WILL be used, either by YOU or by those around you. With Pluto in the 7th, either you have power over your relationships or your relationships have power over you. As always, it is your decision as to whether to keep the power and responsibilty for your actions...or to give them away to others.

Powerfully relating,

Tim

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redbubblesbleed -

My personal take on the True Lilith in Virgo, in your 4th House, and Saturn's Transit is that times will be challenging until Saturn has passed that Lilith. But I feel that you will triumph in a big way!

I could be completely off here, but are you going through issues with your family regarding who your friends are and who you choose to date?

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posted February 27, 2006 06:08 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
dear RBB,

post your natal too, and ill take a lookie at your upcoming SR chart! (the SR chart should be read back into the natal.)

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posted February 27, 2006 06:48 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi astro junkie~ you said
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Remember that it's probably more accurate for you to enter "h13" in EXTENDED CHARTS when it comes to your "lilith", rather than using the option in their dropdown menu.

How come this is so? It's the 1st i've heard hehe. From the pull down menu thingy my Lilith is 7*Taurus, but with h13 (it comes up as Osc on my chart) it's 16*Aries. Quite a difference!

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`Who are you?' said the Caterpillar. This was not an encouraging opening for a conversation. Alice replied, rather shyly, `I--I hardly know, sir, just at present-- at least I know who I WAS when I got up this morning, but I think I must have been changed several times since then.'
~Lewis Carroll

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dear RBB,

well, with mercury rx at the onset of the return, it is time to be introspective. i am having this in my upcoming solar return as well (march 19). you should be doing a lot of your own thinking and learning rather than depending on others. think of your mind as an overloaded cabinet or closet seriously in need of filing an organization. mercury rules the 2nd and 4th house of your SR: these are the areas where you will need to be doing some reorganization, or where you will experience some sort of turnaround (acc. to celeste teal, "identifying planetary triggers") -- in the areas of home (or inner emotions, private life) and finances (or security).

there is an eastern emphasis in this chart (7 planets on right side) so this would likely indicate that it is your personal desires, not those of others, that will become important to your success this year.

there is also a 1st quad emphasis (6 planets in houses 1-3) indicating everything that goes on in your life at this time will be interpreted in a personal way. a 1st quad emphasis is often seen to those who have given their all to relationships and/or to family in the past, and now need to work on themselves.

you've got 0 earth in the chart (except for the AC). this might indicate some financial limitations perhaps. for some individuals, lack of money won't be a problem -- you will just place a greater emphasis on intangibles and therefore money isn't a top priority this year.

the sun is so close the the 3rd cusp that it can mostly be read in the 3rd. i like to think of planets on cusps as being in the doorway, looking through the door into the next room (house). in this case, the planet is halfway through the door. major themes for the sun in the 3rd:

• intellectual emphasis (focus)
• mental stability
• thoughts rather than feelings
• information/communication
• community involvement

the ruling planet of this chart is venus (taurus rises), and venus is in the 2nd. venus in the 2nd usually indicates you are comfortable with the money you have or earn. you may have an increase in funds available. during the year, you should feel comfortable with the amount of money you have to spend. you are unlikely to feel impoverished unless there are other indications in the chart.aspects to venus and other planets in the 2nd house may give you some idea as to what financial situations may evolve. aspects between the 10th and the 2nd or the 6th and the 2nd generally imply that money is job-related. if venus is heavily aspected from the 8th house, debts and shared resources may be an issue. an empasis on the 11th house with venus in the 2nd implies the desire to work with long-term financial goals. whenever venus is heavily aspected in the solar return, financial situations may be changing or complicated by other interests.

you are in the process of reassessing your value system. priorities may be changed or even reversed. what may have been important before is no longer crucial; what you once took for granted is now cherished.

you might experience a moral or ethical conflict at this time, especially if venus is heavily emphasized. venus in the 2nd shows that moral issues will be reassessed, especially the issue of monogamy or loyalty to one person. the interpretation of venus in the 2nd house seems to be most closely related to proclivities shown in the natal chart and the rest of the solar return. several aspects to venus in the 2nd can indicate mixed feelings with regard to these ethical or moral issues.

your natal NN rises to the ascendant of the return; this will be an important year to set you on your path!

the ascendant of the SR falls in your 4th house, and this is likely going to be the area of life where you will be most motivated to take action this year.

i know this isn't much, but i hope it helps!


-chrissy

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wilsontc
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posted February 28, 2006 03:44 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
chrissy,

You said:

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...there is an eastern emphasis in this chart (7 planets on right side)...

Great job of analysis! Small correction: Red's 7 planets are on the LEFT side of the chart.

Correcting,

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chrissymgreen
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posted February 28, 2006 04:09 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
dear tim,

oh man, there goes my dyslexia!


dyslexically,
chrissy


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Hexxie -

We were talking about this not too long ago, since astro.com finally caught up to the following article, and very recently added "h13" as one of their options. (Cannot guarantee the links in the original article are still active) :::


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Here's the ESSENTIAL link to fully understanding this - I BOLDED the most important parts :::

"How to Delineate the 3 Liliths in Your Chart
by Sue Simmons

In doing research on the 3 Liliths for my article, which will be
posted my 3 Liliths site at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/3Liliths, I
have found the following to be the best way to delineate the 3 Liliths
in your chart. This assumes that you have an accurate knowledge of
signs and houses. If you need to brush up on this, see Liz Greene's
book, Astrology for Lovers, which is in print and Michael Lutin's Made
in Heaven, which is available from his website, http://www.michaellutin.com/aneworderform.htm
You will also need to have The Book of Rulerships by Rex Bills handy.

If you are trying to figure out what the 3 Liliths mean in someone
else's chart you will need to ask them lots of questions. Don't
assume anything without asking the questions. The questions you need
to ask come from everything the house stands for and everything the
sign stands for. There will be really significant problems in these
area, so ask about what they can't do, hate to do, have problems with,
etc. There are no positives here.

If you read my 3 Lilith Info on my yahoo site first, a lot of your
questions will be answered. I am assuming you have done that. First
go to the Swiss Ephemeris and find your true Black Moon Lilith (exact
directions in my 3 Liliths Info). Be sure to look at the "osc",
that's the true. The mean will be right above it, and will say mean.
If there is a - sign on the line where the osc placement is then your
BML is Rx. If there is no - sign, your BML is direct. Don't worry
about the mean. It works until you start using the true but the true
works much better.

Let's suppose you have true BML at 01Libra11 in the 9th house within
2 deg of the MC, and that the 9th house also contains Pluto. In order
to figure out what the BML adds to this, you first have to figure out
what the Pluto in Leo in the 9th means, then see how having BML there
makes a difference. I find Jeff Green's Pluto vol.1 extremely good
for what Pluto in the 9th and in Leo means so if you read that, then
you can think about how the BML adds something difficult (BML is
always difficult) to it. Belief system, legal matters and in-laws are
9th house, as is the second wife, 3rd child and 4th sibling so if you
have any of those think about them too.

If Pluto in Leo and BML in Libra are both in the 9th, then you know
Virgo must be intercepted there, so take that into consideration too.
The latest thinking is that intercepted signs represent something you
refused to do in a prior lifetime and must do this time. I have found
people extremely resistant to doing or thinking about doing whatever
their interception represents according to the houses and signs
involved and it seems to be a part of themselves they don't like and
don't want to look at.

I have also noticed that people with Virgo-Pisces intercepted in the
9-3 houses with Sag ASC have some difficulty with driving or sense of
direction. They either learn to drive much later than their peers,
are afraid to drive, are terrible drivers, or have a poor sense of
direction. The BML in the 9th may make it worse or it may signify
disastrous relationships with the in-laws or second marriage
partner. Legal issues are probably something to avoid. Ask a lot of
questions and it will soon become clear what the BML adds to the mix.

Next, since it is within 2 deg of the MC you need to explore how this
affects all 10th house matters such as career (difficulty knowing
what work you really want to do? many job changes? underpaid because
doing volunteer work or working for a family member? working off and
on? illness interfering with work? someone else controlling the
kind of work you do? problems with the boss?), reputation (any
scandals, gossip?), mother issues, etc., If there are any planets in
the 10th delineate them first and then see how BML makes it worse.
If there are no difficulties in the career then consider that the
time may be off by a few minutes. The orb of BML is only 3 degrees.

After you figure out how it affecting the 9th house, then you go to
the sign. It's easier for me that way, anyway. So you think about
all the Libra issues there are and then figure out how they are harder
for you than they would be ordinarily if you didn't consider it. With
Libra and 9th house both there I would expect legal issues. Also ask
about partnership issues, both business and personal, kidney
problems, etc. Look in Rex Bill's Book of Rulerships to make sure
you haven't missed anything. The more you ask about the more you
will see how it works.

Let's assume Venus is opp. BML at 4 Aries 41 and you assume that would
mean trouble with women. Don't assume anything. First, it is outside
the orb that seems to work. Second, no one really knows what this
opposition means. Anyone who says they do is just guessing because
most astrologers use the mean position which has been around a lot
longer. To really work, Venus would have to be in opposition to the
true and within a 3 degree orb. To see whether it works, think about
all the 3rd house issues, such as siblings, neighbors, cars, short-
distance travel, etc. and see whether the BML is putting a damper on
any of those. That is, is the Venus not working there as you would
assume it would? To know this you need to take into account other
apects to the Venus and the placement of the ruler. Second, think
about your Venus as representing your feelings, what you love (in the
3rd, communicating with others), women (combined with the Moon
placement), your earnings, and think about whether the BML makes
these areas of your life worse than you would ordinarily expect
considering the aspects to Venus and it's ruler.

An important thing to remember with Black Moon Lilith is that we are
not dealing with a planet or other body but a point in the Moon's
orbit. So you don't treat it like a planet. You can't consider
aspects as you would a planet. So there doesn't seem to be any
meaning to trines, squares, etc. I have found conjunctions within 3
deg to have some significance and I would consider an opposition if
it was exact or within 1-2 deg but that's it, I have not found other
aspects to work. Of course I am speaking of the true position. Mean
appears to work but once you start looking at the true it is obvious
the mean worked only because it is usually in the same house and
sign. When the mean and true are in a different house and sign,
that's where you can really see the difference.

If the true BML is Rx and the person has done past life regression
work, you can think of the house and sign and ask about past lives
that involve the house and sign. So in this case, were there past
lives with the 2nd wife, 3rd child, in-laws or was there a past life
where the belief system was too rigid or the person was killed for
their beliefs, etc. Or problems with the legal system, such as being
convicted for something you didn't do, or being a judge where you
sentenced an innocent person to death, etc. The Rx BML house and
sign will describe an important past life.

Now let's look at asteroid Lilith. Assume asteroid Lilith is at
10Scorpio23 Rx in the 11th in Scorpio with Saturn at 8 Scorpio.
There will be problems with the AQ issues, and with Saturn there,
probably every AQ issue you can think of. Liz Greene's book on
Saturn is excellent on what Saturn in the 11th and in Scorpio mean,
You need to get that clear so you can distinguish between the effects
of Saturn from the effects of asteroid Lilith. Basically, it makes
things worse. You need to think about all AQ issues, such as
circulation, central nervous system, unexpected events, bureaucratic
nightmares, groups, organizations, friends, hopes dreams and wishes,
etc. For aspects to asteroid Lilith look at Martha Lang-Wescott's
book, Mechanics of the Future: Asteroids. It is terrific.

For asteroids, the usual practice is conjunctions and oppositions only
with a 1 deg orb but I find up to 3 deg works, but not a minute over 3
deg. When the asteroid is exact or within 1 deg the conjunction and
opposition work well, at 2 deg. the influence is less and at 3 deg it
is very weak. Beyond that it doesn't work.

Now let's look at Dark Moon Lilith, which is in Sag in the first
house 3 deg from your Mars, which is conj. the ASC. Think about all
first house issues, especially body and head because the 1st house
represents body and the 6th house healt . So the ruler of the ASC
will represent any major physical problems that will come up. Any
you don't see there you will find in the 6th or in the ruler of the
6th. Since the DML is in Sag, ask about hip or thigh problems or
incurable conditions. In addition, think about Mars problems, such
as muscle problems, chronic fatigue syndrome, arthritis, etc., or
anything that impedes movement or action, including fear of
confrontation, fear of expressing anger, experiences of having been
in physical danger, etc. Check Rex Bill's Book of Rulerships to be
sure you haven't missed anything. When you are looking at the
meaning of the sign be sure to consider the pitfalls of the sign in
general. For example, since the Mars and DML are in Sag there will
probably be a problem with being impatient with details and forming
opinions and beliefs too quickly without a good foundation for them.
And since the DML is in Sag, it emphasizes the problems BML creates
in the 9th house.

You can use Delphine Jay's definitions for DML, but not her
calculations (details on books about Dark Moon Lilith are in the 3
Liliths Info). The correct Dark Moon Lilith calculations from
astronomer Dr. Georges Waltemath are found in Solar Fire and Riyal
(For Riyal, see 3 Liliths Info under Freeware). Most programs use
the Sepharial calculations, which are erroneous. With Dark Moon
Lilith I find that exact or within 1-2 deg works well with conj. and
opp. Delphine Jay uses other aspects but always emphasizes "exact or
in close aspect" for the orb.

So that is how I approach looking at all 3 Liliths in a chart. It
takes time and you have to take everything one step at a time and
really give it some thought but it's worth it. If you have any
feedback or questions on what I have written please feel free to
e-mail me.

Sue Simmons
sueastro@e...

Lilith

- by Sue Simmons


There are 3 astrological points with the name Lilith: asteroid Lilith, Black Moon Lilith and Dark Moon Lilith. They are all called Lilith because the way you interpret them in a chart is related to the Lilith story.

Probably the earliest version of Lilith is from Mesopotamia in the 13 -15th centuries BC where she was the Goddess of Death in the form of an owl. She was called Lilith because it means "screech owl". The version of Lilith we know today is as the first wife of Adam, before Eve, although she is not mentioned in the Bible or in ancient Hebrew religious writings. This version seems to come from a medieval writing that purports to be part of Hebrew writings but is not. The writer probably took the older legend and Christianized it by making it part of a Bible story. Lilith became the woman from hell, the anti-female.

There are many versions and interpretations of her story. As the first wife of Adam she refused to be subordinate to him. She refused to lie beneath him in sexual relations. She wanted to lie side by side or on top. When he tried to force her she used her powers to fly away. This part of her story has interested many women today . They like to think of Lilith as a feminist heroine, saying she was courageous and asserting her equality. However, in the original story she was more a symbol of the psychologically damaged. If you interpret the Liliths in a chart as heroic or admirable it will not be accurate. The Liliths in your chart operate as places where you are having trouble, where you don't fit in with the norm.

After Adam refused to have her as his wife, she ran off and mated with many demons, which was strictly against God's will. God sent 3 angels to her to get her to stop but she didn't obey so He started killing her children at the rate of 100 per day. She went mad with grief and started killing other people's children. Painful issues surrounding children, birth, unsuitable sexual partners and parts of your life where you just can't function like others do are Lilith issues.

Asteroid Lilith

The glyph for asteroid Lilith is a straight horizontal line with 4 small vertical lines sticking up from it , sort of like an upturned rake head, and on the right below the horizontal line is a very small mark like a capital L or V. Some say it is an upturned hand which could be either rejecting or expecting something different. It takes about 5 years for Lilith to travel through all 12 signs, since it does retrograde a lot. It orbits the Sun in the asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter. The asteroid Lilith has to do with all aspects of difficult sexual relationships.

Black Moon Lilith

Black Moon Lilith is the astrologer's term for the lunar apogee. Since the Moon has an elliptical (oval) orbit and a wobbly one at that, the distance the Moon is from the Earth varies. The lunar apogee is the mathematical point in the sky where the Moon is farthest from the Earth. The reason this point is called Lilith is because in the Lilith story she was acting out the difficult (distant) part of the Moon, in murderous rage, vindictiveness, and insanity. The glyph for Black Moon Lilith is a black crescent pointing east, similar to a 3rd quarter Moon, but with a cross underneath.

Black Moon Lilith can be calculated as mean or true, similar to the way the Moon's nodes are calculated as mean or true. But in the case of the Black Moon there can be as much as 30 degrees difference between the mean and true so it is possible for them to be in different signs or houses. Deciding which to use is easier if you look at charts of people you know where the mean and true are in different signs and houses. The true is the more accurate placement but an ephemeris for it has only been available for about 10 years so not as much work has been done using it. The ephemeris for the mean has been available for about 100 years and astrologers in Europe have been using it almost that long. That's why you see the mean used more in articles and books.

The mean moves about 39 degrees per year or about 3 deg 8 min per month and does not retrograde. The true Black Moon retrogrades a lot and can move anywhere from 9 deg to well over 70 deg per year. It also can move up to 4 deg per day or stay at the same degree for several days so it is important to get an accurate placement for the true. An ephemeris in a book is fine for mean but not for the true. You can get the true in Win*Star software, Halloran software, or Riyal freeware or you can use the Swiss Ephemeris online to get both true and mean. Directions for using the Swiss Ephemeris to find Black Moon Lilith are at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/3Liliths Click on 3 Liliths Info, then scroll down to the Black Moon section. It takes about 9 years for the mean or true to pass through all 12 signs.

Dark Moon Lilith

Unlike Black Moon Lilith, Dark Moon Lilith is a real body in the sky, a second Moon to the Earth that doesn't reflect light, hence the name Dark Moon. The glyph for Dark Moon Lilith is a zero with a forward slash running diagonally through it. There is some controversy over whether it is really there since it can only be seen as a spot moving across the Sun. However, there have been sightings since the 1600's as detailed in Delphine Jay's book, Interpreting Lilith, pg. 1-6. Dr. Georges Waltemath, an astronomer, documented it in 1898 and came up with calculations which gave it an orbit of 119 days around the Earth.

The astrologer Sepharial used the Waltemath calculations to come up with an ephemeris but he made errors which caused a difference of anywhere from about 2 to over 40 degrees. Delphine Jay, Ivy Goldstein-Jacobson, Mae Ludlum-Wilson and others copied Sepharial's calculations. The original Waltemath calculations can be found in Solar Fire software or Riyal freeware. Many astrologers use the Sepharial calculations with success, but the Waltemath calculations are more accurate. Dark Moon Lilith can be interpreted similarly to the other Liliths. Delphine Jay says Dark Moon Lilith is a place where you must operate impersonally because operating personally there will never be successful.

Further information on all 3 Liliths can be found at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/3Liliths/

Sue Simmons"

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dear rbb,

i also wanted to mention that moon-venus conjunction you have going on in your SR chart. this is an important aspect, because natally you have a near exact moon-venus square. this year is challenging you to bring together the natally occuring struggle or tension you have with moon issues (emotions, domestic life, gut feelings) versus venus issues (relationships, finances, what pleases you). plus also venus is the chart ruler of the SR. AND, the moon-venus conjunction spans 2 houses, with the moon basically sitting right on the 2nd cusp. any planets situated on a return chart cusp are important; this is especially true if it is an angular house. in this case its not, but we're still dealing with a planet on a cusp here. and also, the moon in an SR chart is important as an indicator of the daily life, issues that affect you on a day to day basis.

this is important: that moon-venus conjunction, the moon being at 25 gem and venus being at 3 cancer, this falls almost RIGHT ON your 5th house cusp, at 23 gem. i suspect that 5th house issues are going to be v. prominent for you this year.

moon-venus aspects usually generate a lot of desire, passions are aroused. usually more social activity...your urge for affection will increase.

since the moon is in the 1st on the 2nd cusp moving towards conjuncting venus in the 2nd, this might be suggestive that emotional security/domestic issues are tied to financial considerations this year.

with the moon opposing pluto in the 7th/8th, will someone else have power over you financially? perhaps hold the cards in the money department?

financial stability might also be affected by domestic conditions.

another interesting thing i wanted to mention is uranus. now, one thing that is very important in a return chart is to look for planets on angles -- this is indicative of a major energy manifestation in the life, according to the nature of the planet and the angle. in your SR, you do have mars in the 3rd (in the 29th degree, no less, of leo -- that does happen to be conjunct the fixed star regulus which is propitious for you with regard to actions you take this year) about 5 to 6 degrees away from the IC cusp. this would be an important planet to look at in the return. when the transiting sun hits 29° leo through 5° virgo, it will activate this configuration, and you might expect an event of some sort relating to mars on the IC -- an action taken in the domestic arena perhaps? its connected to that moon-pluto opp, this might be connected to the financial issues/power issues i mentioned before.

anyway, another thing to look for is the most elevated planet in the chart, and in this case it's uranus in the 10th. natally you have uranus in the 10th so this is important!

uranus in the 10th indicates some sort of professional changes are likely this year. you might switch careers. professional freedom is important to you, too. basically, if you are unhappy with your current job/career, you will have the opportunity to change it. if you dont, someone else might be doing it for you.

if you dont make any career changes, you will most assuredly feel restless at work. youll need variety and stimulation.

the 10th house is also the house of destiny so you might have a major change in your current direction this year. the return uranus in the return 10th house falls in your natal 1st...this is DEFINITELY an important configuration that is going to affect you PERSONALLY!

i hope that this helps ya. id go into more depth but im pressed for time, and i think i noted most of the major stuff anyway. fyi, i discovered not that long ago that cafeastrology offers very cheap reports, a couple of them on solar returns. a friend of mine ordered the journeys solar return report for this year, and she said it was only $5 and it was pretty decent on content.

since this is a thread on solar returns and mine is coming up very soon...i have a question for any who can help. as you know, it is often really hard to interpret your own charts. shoot, ive studied astrology for years (though im still an amateur really) but i STILL have a hard time with my own stuff. i guess i tend to overthink things a lot. my analytical bent with a natal uranus/ac conjunction opposed mercury on the DC i suppose.

anyway, i want to post my solar return that is coming due soon. i have some problems with some of the aspect configurations...the venus/neptune conjunction in the 12th right on the cusp square the moon/jupiter conjunction in the 8th kinda scares me. i experienced a major break-up last year which nearly broke my spirit (im still struggling a little). i just dont get involved often (im nearly 35 and ive just had 2 major relationships) and this one seemed so special but it just didnt work out. this configuration looks scary, and from what ive read about ve/ne in the 12th it's not good. to top it off, this ve/ne conjunction in the 12th of the return falls right on my natal 5th cusp! gosh, that seems ominous. i cant take another year of this kind of pain. can anyone offer any insight on this return? wilsontc, maybe...any thoughts? i sure would appreciate anyone's input!


thanks so much, chrissy

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dear rbb,

oh yes, a solar return can gradually begin showing its effects about 3 months before the birthday. its a gradual thing, the current solar return is fading and the new one slowly coming into focus.


glad you found this helpful!


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