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Swerve unregistered	posted February 28, 2006 08:42 AM I get accused of this all the time and I find it odd. It almost seems to offend some people or give them a sense of superiority based on their simple way of looking at things. Surely it is only ever a subjective opinion. Another one I get is "you are too deep". What the F does THAT mean? Aren't they too shallow by reflection??? Does my head in. Your thoughts and opinions would be appreciated guys. Be as brutal as you like. Swerve IP: Logged
pixelpixie Newflake Posts: 8 From: ON Canada Registered: Apr 2009	posted February 28, 2006 08:53 AM I hear those phrases a lot.. and I agree with you..like "Can you please define 'too deep'..." A lot of the poems I've written reflect on just that. I do think ( of course I am on an upswing right now, minus some things I have to undertake this week)That 'being deep' is necessary in some respects. Some of the best enlightenments come from the soul shattering depths where you feel unreachable. Being deep isn't a matter of measure.. it is a necessary undertaking. Too many people are 'light' due to fear or comfort and an inability to fiercely look at the mud puddles and cobwebs that need to be addressed. Naturally, closets need to be cleaned out once and a while. I shudder to think of the state of things with skeletons abounding. They're better explored. Be proud. IP: Logged
Betelgeuse Knowflake Posts: 33 From: England Registered: Apr 2009	posted February 28, 2006 09:01 AM I can only reiterate and agree with everything Pixie said. IP: Logged
Swerve unregistered	posted February 28, 2006 09:01 AM I am babe. I don't for a second regret being like this, I consider myself to have 20/20 vision in a world of the poorly-sighted. I find it bizarre that they adopt the position that having this disadvantage is something to enforce on those who clearly aren't so blighted. If I sound arrogant I have only been made that way beacuse of the resistance and cynicism and downright disrespect and stupidity I have encountered along the way. Are most people nuts? I can appreciate someone who can play better footbal that me, rather than say, keep your plays simple so that the game suits everyone. Ridiculous, I feel repressed by it I suppose. Swerve IP: Logged
Tigerlily Knowflake Posts: 59 From: Registered: Apr 2009	posted February 28, 2006 09:21 AM I've gotten that a lot too, "You're too deep." My first reaction was to feel offended and hurt and think to myself, It's other people's faults - they don't get it. But...I have learned there was something to it. There is a need for balance, a call to meet people on their level too sometimes, not just mine. I realized my trying to push things to a deeper, more philosophical / spiritual level was not always appropriate. I came to understand that it's not all about me and what I like and am comfortable with. With maturity came the realization that there's a time and a place for everything. I have had to accept the reality that I can't expect the world to adjust to me and my ways ( no matter if I feel I'm right and the world is wrong ), I have to make the adjustments. That's one of the big lessons in life. IP: Logged
Swerve unregistered	posted February 28, 2006 10:06 AM Hi Tigerlily, I'm familiar with the concept of balance and strive to attain this in all things, but then to adopt this position is to assume sole responsibility for it which in essence is my point. What are these other individuals who can't see beyond the end of their own noses and have to be communicated with in simplistic forms doing to provide a balance? Seems a little one-sided, but I do see your point in the larger view and I agree. Also, sometimes I have noticed that the concept of balance can become twisted into passive inactivity. Sometimes things need to be shaken up to bring the balance, rather than just observed. They are the sheep and we are the sheepdogs, but the sheep don't really understand the sheep dog and he knows he must find some way of communicating with them. Yes, it's a way of feeling superior by perspective. I also think it's right in the long run. In essence, it IS the balance. I'm sorry, sometimes being nice and understanding gets you nowhere I've noticed with most people. They respect a more direct kind of honesty. I think it can come across as belligerant sometimes though which is unfortunate. Swerve IP: Logged
pixelpixie Newflake Posts: 8 From: ON Canada Registered: Apr 2009	posted February 28, 2006 10:41 AM I wouldn't bring up pornography in a tea party with my grandmother, so it is in life.. you respond to the container you are in and being adaptable is part of it. When you are deep and it isn't appropriate, remain silent about it.. to not is tandamount to breaking rules of respect. But for others to put down anything due to misunderstanding is just like that. People have a way of picking up things in scenarios, and categorizing them as they see fit.. it is a comfort mechanism.. I do it, yet I am aware that I do it.. I can dispassionately see this from the outside. Even comment on it, as if I am studying my own behaviour in a scientific way. I know that much as I'd like to impress to some people that their way is simply their way, and because they've summed it up, doesn't mean they've summed ME up.... But somwtimes it's okay to just know, and let nothing be said.. It's not like anything will change. Those times they do is a shift in understanding and truly great. IP: Logged
sue g unregistered	posted February 28, 2006 10:44 AM I am a five planets in Scorpio woman......Plutonian depths have always fascinated me and at times overwhelmed me? My mother and sister "accuse" me of being "very deep"....."oooh isnt she intense and deep" they utter.... I love depth....love deep people....love to plunge the depths with others. As for the shallow ones, nah they dont do it for me. Dont you have a Scorpio moon Swerve.....mmm.....so you will be in part, subject to plutonian power and depth Lucky you !! IP: Logged
beebuddy unregistered	posted February 28, 2006 10:59 AM Swerve, IMO the least confident of the Scorp risings are the Cancer and Pisces Sun's. We get all of the obsessive qualities and none of the invulnerability of the Scorps. Anyway, learn to not give a damn about other people's opinions while still considering their feelings. IP: Logged
pidaua Knowflake Posts: 67 From: Back in AZ with Bear the Leo Registered: Apr 2009	posted February 28, 2006 11:14 AM Swerve, People are sometimes incredibly narrow minded and when faced with a deep thinker they end up throwing out insults to cover their fear. I believe the fear is two-fold either A) they just don't want to delve into the deeper parts of society or the brain because of what they may find or 2) they are about as able to deep sea dive as that catfish that swallowed the bouncy ball. When people tell me that (not so much about the total deep thinking in regards to poetry, because I almost NEVER share that part of myself) I just ignore them and move on. I enjoy being analytical and working out all possible solutions to a problem or just going off on philosophical tangents LOL.... I, for one, have always enjoyed your posts... so please keep thinking too much!!!! IP: Logged
1scorp unregistered	posted February 28, 2006 11:28 AM I can relate with this one. I've been told that I have too much soul. I'm with Swerve... what is that suppose to mean? _________________________________________ Scorpio sun, venus, mars, mercury, and uranus Libra moon, pluto, and asc. IP: Logged
moonshine unregistered	posted February 28, 2006 04:57 PM People don't like to get too deep. I think they equate it with being dull! We live in a throwaway culture (in the west) where the primary focus in the media is on fashion, plastic surgery, interior design, weight reality TV and how to be rich and famous. Thats what life's all about � apparently. Very few people I know actually read books for pleasure, maybe thats the problem. I have one friend who rejected a guy because he was apparently "too deep and boring." And another actually dumped her boyfriend because "he always wanted to have deep conversations about life and stuff" They shocked me becuase they are otherwise intelligent women. It seems its no longer an insult to be considered shallow any more. I'm don't consider myself a particularly intelligent person but I've been called deep a few times. My parents have always said I think too much, as if that was a bad thing. IP: Logged
nove731 Knowflake Posts: 43 From: Strasbourg, France Registered: Jun 2009	posted February 28, 2006 05:11 PM I get that from my director all the time. He's always like "Matthew, you think too much. You have to stop thinking, and start doing." blah blah blah. It's quite...irritating. I don't ever have time to wrap my head around what we're doing, so I'm always confused. IP: Logged
AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 4416 From: Pleasanton, CA Registered: Apr 2009	posted February 28, 2006 06:11 PM Man, Swerve, you are too deep and you think way too much! IP: Logged
GemStar unregistered	posted February 28, 2006 06:54 PM Swerve, it all depends on the person...he or she may think a 'puddle' is too deep! Everything is relative... Bring on the vast oceans...and sultry dark seas...Dare others to dive into their depths! GemStar IP: Logged
villy unregistered	posted February 28, 2006 07:06 PM Hey Swerve, I am learning to accept that everyone is so different that I can't expect them to be as I want. Some people understand, some don't... yeah we do get hurt, thats where we need to protect ourselves. Frankly I am not open in front of others to discuss out such deep thoughts. These are something for someone special or someone who understands me.... else everything is buried inside me (might not be a right thing). V IP: Logged
Swerve unregistered	posted March 01, 2006 04:48 AM AG I consider people who have no real depth or consideration behind their thoughts boring. The unexamined life..... I would probably dump someone on the strength of being completely unstimulating. Seems its big over here for drinking and being aggressive and selfish and shallow as masquerading for having character. A "bubbly" (God I hate that word, but it's how many UK girls like to describe themselves, and serves as a very effective filter for me when assessing them) personality is only a collection of deliberately superifical traits that is assumed to be as valuable as having real character. I get frustrated by the presence of so many of these people. They grate on me. When they try to judge others based on their own warped view of people (have you noticed how the world seems to be aiming for diversity but actually embracing conformity? A sign of the multi-cultural melting pot meltdown?)it amuses me to analyse the criteria by which they do this. Seems everyone is tryng to so hard to be "right" or "get right" they sacrifice their unbridled individuality in fear of being judged by those they emulate. A vicious circle and very very boring for society. Morons. I'm all light and fuzzy today aren't I? Swerve IP: Logged
maklhouf unregistered	posted March 01, 2006 05:19 AM I'm really not dissing astrology, but I have to wonder why a "serious thinker" posted in Astrology. Were you really expecting to meet other serious thinkers here? If so, did it not occur to you that an organised thinker would have posted this subject in a different forum? If you don't want to be lonely, you have to go where the type of action you are looking for is. ------------------ And I will give thee the treasures of darkness Isiah 45:3 IP: Logged
shop22much Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Dec 2010	posted March 01, 2006 05:29 AM i understand how you feel swerve(strong scorpio influence here im thinking its a scorpio thing for sure)..i get that at times.. i want to deep deeper when it comes to talking to people....i am not satisfied with the superficality of the world...but i do enjoy the fact others dont think like me, and theres diversity in the world, makes it more interesting, always up for a mental challenge when it comes to my beliefs and how i see the world...though i know im right heh IP: Logged
Swerve unregistered	posted March 01, 2006 06:16 AM Well wonder no more Malkhouf.... Many here already know me and are well aware of my placements as I am of theirs. So there is a fair amount of assumption involved on my part considering there are others like yourself who aren't so intimately acquainted. It has also been said many times on this forum that you are by no means restricted to any kind of linear astrological thinking or questions, freedom of thought being championed. Also, more people read this forum and you get more posts for your pound. And one other thing, I don't consider myself a serious thinker, this isn't "Ode to Swerve" - I wonder why others marginalise this way of being and seek to put labels on it, rather short-sighted I would say. Its more astonisment at people's pleasure (or bliss) in ignorance. I can understand they may just not care, but to go that extra step of actually condemning someone for it is something else. I would also have said that most on this forum could be considered deep thinkers, analysts, philosophers, etc - you can read the posts on this very thread for proof of that. I find it strange you wouldn't recognise that quite easily...... Shop22much - I am sure it is Scorpio territory. The reaction of others and myself seems to be indicative of this. Swerve IP: Logged
oddball unregistered	posted March 01, 2006 06:57 AM There is nothing wrong with being 'deep', but I've come to realize that if you want to have a deep side, it is like an old picture you keep hidden in a shoe box under your bed. Its for you, and you only share the experience with others if they can think and feel the way you do, because whether you like it or not, you have to stay on good terms with the society you're in so you have a network of people to fall back on when you need them. This doesn't mean that you numb yourself down to their level, just don't show that facet of your personality until you have over some period of time assessed that they are on the same wavelength as you. And remember, being deep is never complete if you do not have any action to bring your ideals into practicality-charity, volunteering, arts, science, whatever your calling is. Personally, I don't like to entertain thoughts if they don't give me pleasure and if they aren't going to get me somewhere. IP: Logged
Swerve unregistered	posted March 01, 2006 07:05 AM Hi Oddball, I agree with that. Sometimes it seems to much effort to mask one's true thoughts or limit your opinions when many pour forth such uneducated or downright ignorant rubbish with no thought for your ears. You DO have to tame it down, and in some company this is not only polite but beneficial, yeah I'm with you there. Perhaps it's a self-discipline issue? Swerve IP: Logged
oddball unregistered	posted March 01, 2006 07:26 AM I'm guessing you don't have much earth planets or planets in earth houses do you swerve? Just curious... IP: Logged
thirteen unregistered	posted March 01, 2006 07:53 AM well i can relate to this too. When i was younger ( now i don't share so easily) i was always made fun of for being "deep" as if it were a real problem. It was, for me only. Maybe they saw that. I like being deep and have no plans to change it but its a pain sometimes because it can make you feel very isolated. IP: Logged
Swerve unregistered	posted March 01, 2006 08:22 AM Actually, oddball you are absolutely spot on! Not one, didn't think of that. Very interesting. Great observation! I'll look into it. thirteen - yes, isolation, thats the key to it really. Good point. Swerve IP: Logged

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