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shop22much
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posted March 05, 2006 03:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for shop22much     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
is there an aspect(s) that makes it near impossible for someone to lie? curious about this...

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Yang
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posted March 05, 2006 04:56 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The truth is that everyone lies-some far more than others!

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Stenudd
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posted March 05, 2006 05:36 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's an amusing question. Some lie more than others, some better than others.
What in a horoscope would imply inability to speak anything but the truth? Mercury, controlling speech and language, might give a hint - in Libra or Aquarius, for example, honesty is enhanced. The Ascendant shows if the person intends to be honest - at least give the impression of it, which tends to make honesty the only working way at length.
So, the Ascendant in Libra, trine to Mercury in Aquarius, would make it hard to lie. If we add the moon in Aquarius, it would be discomforting not to tell the truth, and so on.
On the other hand - we are often confused about what is the truth. Also, we may be liers at work and truthful at home.
Man is a complicated animal.

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jkxx
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posted March 05, 2006 11:55 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Man is a complicated animal." - well said!

Never thought of it as Mercury making aspects to other planets myself, but it's true that if it's placed in a compatible sign relative to the other personal planets, it'd make the person more transparent or willing to say exactly what's going on. Mercury in the same sign as the Sun or Asc might help out as well.

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taurean_scorpion
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posted March 05, 2006 01:26 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ah!
me......Hm..

*Mercury in the same sign as the Sun*
my sun's in taurus.
& i have mercury in taurus/12th.
i personally think it's my moon in scorpio/6th.



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Valkie
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posted March 05, 2006 08:02 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Since lying implies open deception, I would lean toward Pluto contacts as well... I would also look at the whole chart and try to judge how emotionally secure the native is. The biggest reason for someone to lie is out of fear. But there's an issue with this whole theory.

The same aspects that would indicate a lier also indicate someone who hates lying! It's the natives choice on how the energy is used. General knowledge of how the person reacts to stressful situation would be greatly helpful... and definately check out that security thing.

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LILYGIRL
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posted March 05, 2006 08:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Neptune tightly conjunct Mercury..... sometimes imdicates a very hard time seeing things as they truly are and speaking wild untruths consciously and unconsciously...

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Dark Sider
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posted March 05, 2006 09:42 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sometimes i find i difficult to lie, i tend to give myself away when i dont want to tell the truth.

oh and speaking of neptune..

Neptune in the Fourth House 4th hs
Neptune in Sagittarius
Neptune Opposition Midheaven
Mars Square Neptune
Neptune Square Ascendant
Jupiter Sextile Neptune
Saturn Sextile Neptune
Neptune Sextile Pluto

ya i know, thats alot. Woo to me!

also my moon and mars are in the 12th

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sweetlibra
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posted March 06, 2006 02:34 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have difficulties in telling lies. In fact I seldom succeeded when eye contact is present.

Sun conj mercury in Libra
Moon in Aqua

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boo
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posted March 06, 2006 10:15 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Its completely irrespective of sign.
You will be unable to lie if u dont want to.

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jkxx
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posted March 06, 2006 11:16 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My mercury is pretty tightly conjunct Neptune but I lie far less than just about all my friends - although there's definitely the unconscious issue going on.

On the other hand I've known a lot people who've lied quite a bit and they've all been different signs (so far an Aries, a Gemini, a Sag, and a Taurus come to mind).

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posted March 08, 2006 03:01 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If there's any hope at all, it's GOTTA be a nature/nurture thing ...

Look to the Charts of those who made the greatest impression on that young person. Find commonalities between their Charts, and try to determine where any weaknesses in communication may occur. But I would think of it as a BLEND of the two energies. Not like, it's just one person's Chart which will have a bad influence.

That's why the day we are born is so impressed in our minds. It's not only where the Planets were for us, but what Transits everyone else around us were working with.

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