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carlfloydfan
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posted March 27, 2006 06:14 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We know our own kind so who better to help, right?

Post your concerns about fellow scorps (and everyone else) and other scorpios will come to your aid. Girl/guy trouble? drinking problem? (since scorps tend to be big lushes). Curious about a shady stranger or person who seems to have ulterior motives?

Tell your story and lets help each other out!

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Scorpionic Web
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posted March 27, 2006 07:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scorpionic Web     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are you serious?

Very few Scorpios would bring REAL problems up. Scorps may come here to vent astrologically. But I don't think you're going to get Scorpios to confess much.

Scorpio's sexual desires can be unspeakable, and Scorpios drink because they want to.

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pixelpixie
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posted March 27, 2006 07:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But it is a very nice idea.

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carlfloydfan
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posted March 27, 2006 08:28 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yah, I'm serious. Lets look past cliches too. Any sign can be a closed book. I am not though and a lot of scorpios (I Know) aren't either. I am defiantly an open book.

Yah I have my secrets but so does everyone else. I am not talking personal here either. Just everyday problems that everyone brings up (the depth you want to persue in here is up to you). And since these are problems from scorpios to scorpios, there will be a neat understanding. Obviously no one will get to personal unless they want to. But it'll be fun.

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Full-fifthhouse-loulou
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posted March 28, 2006 02:43 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Scorpio sun, venus and jupiter here!!! I consider myself generally an open book but only because these placings are in the fifth house and my mercury is in sagitarius in the fifth....so blah blah blah!! Hahahahaha!

However do not be fooled...I am a deep river with my moon in cancer close to the ascendant.

I love a good drink of wine but only on a weekend...my mother is an alcholic so I am very aware of drinking too much so always watch myself.

I enjoy the understanding I feel with another scorp. They just know stuff that I do. I don't have to explain. But they've probably made me cry more than any other sign too!!!!!

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I just want to love and be loved! - Marilyn Monroe, 1955

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sue g
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posted March 28, 2006 03:15 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am a very deep, passionate, emotional Scorpio woman but am very open,,,can ask me anything...or I would try and help others if I can!!

"Scorpios sexual desires can be unspeakable".....I agree with that comment, but am learning to open up with this....mmmm.....a difficult one for sure, especially when.................................well you know, a Scorpio has to have one or two secrets.....dont they now?


I Dont do booze or drugs, prefer lovin myself !!

That is my drug....mmmm....

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WaterNymph
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posted March 28, 2006 05:27 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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sue g
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posted March 28, 2006 08:23 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And .......

Scorpio Carl,

Yes its a lovely idea......

And so many issues I would like to raise......some may not be appropriate for this board....but matters of passion, jealousy, obsession....well things that may be labelled typical Scorpio traits....I would love to discuss.

To see Scorpio male input would be be fab too....I have a Scorpio son, (with Scorpio Venus as I have)....I can see that he like me, is prone to jealousy and being possessive.....

So if anyone would mind talking about these issues, I would gladly respond....

Thanks

So..........................????????

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Stargazer
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posted March 28, 2006 12:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stargazer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sue... I have a Scorpio son too... he is 6.
I too have noticed the possesive thing take shape... Even more of a concern, the anger factor... Trying to teach him ways to get it out and let it go... Tips on that would be great too....He seems to swing to anger with little provocation...????

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carlfloydfan
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posted March 28, 2006 07:18 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I work with kids so I don't have the experience that moms and dads have. but I work with a lil 5 year old scorpio kid. Try to put them in situations where they will have the oppurtunity to help a child smaller themselves in some way, weather it be socially, nuturing or being creative... or what not. You will be suprised of the outcome, I am sure. The scorpio boy I talk of always includes this shy little 3 year old boy that is new to the preschool room and always plays with him. I have seen an amazing difference in the three old, much more outgoing.

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Autumn wind
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posted March 28, 2006 09:47 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Scorpio people! I myself am not a scorp, I'm a Libra(I have my venus, jupiter and neptune in Scorp). I am however married to a Scorp(for 10yrs). He has a Leo moon and an Aqua asc.
Anyhow I know that you can be very deep and passionate about things that affect you in life. For instance, My husband has issues with work(people) and he has no problems telling anyone about them. The problem is that they upset him so much, he won't let go of the problem, even when a solution is thought of. He basically will beat himself up over things and will get very depressed as well. No matter what I say, nothing helps, at the time. Later he will say I thought about it and you were right in these aspects, which I'll try. I feel really bad because no matter what I say or do, nothing helps! esp. at the time.
At these times, I find him very intense!
Anyhow, the main issue he has is how others treat him. He is honest, hardworking, and shows up faithfully to work. He also gets along with people. Then someone starts being rude or expects more and more from him, till he can no longer be so "nice and pleasing" to them. In other words, he'll stick up for himself or tell them what he thinks of them(sometimes not exactly what he thinks) but enough to let them know. Then he will be given the cold shoulder and or, treated badly.(note, he is treated badly before he says anything, that's why this happens)
He constantly is battling with this issue! Do any of you have any thoughts? Also can I really do or say anything that helps him at this time?
Any thoughts would be appreciated(if you can understand what I've wrote!)
Thanks.

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wilsontc
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posted March 29, 2006 01:03 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Autumn,

You said:

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I am...married to a Scorp(for 10yrs). He has a Leo moon and an Aqua asc...he won't let go of the problem, even when a solution is thought of. He basically will beat himself up over things and will get very depressed as well...someone starts being rude or expects more and more from him, till he can no longer be so "nice and pleasing" to them. In other words, he'll stick up for himself or tell them what he thinks of them(sometimes not exactly what he thinks) but enough to let them know. Then he will be given the cold shoulder and or, treated badly...Do any of you have any thoughts? Also can I really do or say anything that helps him at this time? Any thoughts would be appreciated

Let's take a look at the astro-clues you have provided:
Scorpio modifying Sun
Leo modifying Moon
Aquarius modifying Ascendant

is

Scorpio (transformation, also power, control) modifying Sun (self-expression)
Leo (self-expression) modifying Moon (home, also emotions)
Aquarius (friends, also rebellion) modifying Ascendant (self)

This indicates:
he has a powerful, controlled self-expression
he has self-expressive emotions
he is friendly, but also rebellious

Scorpio energy is about "emotional security". So anytime he feels insecure, he can become VERY emotional. Since he wants security in his emotions, he can tend to go over and over the emotional issue, trying to stabilize and, instead, end up brooding. At this point, his self-expressive emotions become VERY self-expressive and he decides that these people are NOT his friends...so he rebels against them.

The issue seems to be personal emotional security, tied in with self-expressive emotions that tend to get rebellious. Perhaps it would help if he could work at being aware that the point of all these "games" the rude people are playing is ALL about getting him to lose control in some way. For, once a Scorpio sun sign loses control, he is no longer "powerful"...and no longer a potential "threat" to others.

A confident, self-aware, emotionally secure Scorpio is a POWERFUL force to handle...but an unconfident, doubting, emotionally insecure Scorpio is an easy target. Your husband's challenge is to develop confidence and personal emotional security, so that the opinions of rude people don't bother him. A powerful, self-aware Scorpio will "freeze people out" with a glance or simply ignore them if people act up...and if they KEEP acting up they may ignore them for the rest of the person's life!

Because self-aware Scorpios know that the power is theirs to keep...or to give away. Allowing other people to upset them is giving away power. Ignoring rude, inconsiderate people is true power, and Scorpio Sun signs know how to use it.

Most likely your husband knows this, too, that these people are simply trying to get at his power. The challenge for him is to develop his emotional security to such an extent that nobody and no one can budge it from him. Then these rude people will wish they had never opened their mouth!

For more about basic astrology, see the link below.

Emotionally secure,

Tim

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For information on basic astrological chart interpretation see: http://www.geocities.com/wilsontctc

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Stargazer
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posted March 29, 2006 10:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stargazer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
carl....I have noticed the gentle side of his personality shine through when he feels the need to help out someone younger... He is more than happy to pass down toys and clothes...I will definitely put your suggestion to use. Thanks so much!!!

This was a good idea And see, you really helped me out and you didn't have to spill your guts

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pixelpixie
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posted March 29, 2006 10:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tim, this has helped me as well....
Possibly because I am a Scorpio Sun with Leo Ascendant, but I hugely related to your explanation. It worked on some level.. I really identified with work issues regarding Autumn Wind's husband. I find myself dwelling on people at work who get me down or misunderstand me, and then dwelling on ways to overcome my feelings, once identified.... But that in itself makes me think about it too much, therby giving away 'frostbite' power.
A while back it was almost paralysing, as there were active issues, not exactly on the sidelines of consciousness.
So thanks for defining it.

Thankingly,
pixelpixie

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posted March 29, 2006 10:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stargazer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Autumn & Tim.....

My six year old is a Leo/Moon Aqua/Rising....

just trying to help him be all he can be...

Thanks for sharing and explaining!!

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celticfyre
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posted March 29, 2006 11:01 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tim, as always you hit the nail on the head in regards to emotional security and Scoprio power. I am currently dealing with that very thing now. I hate it when I let people push my buttons I think I get more angry with myself for letting them do it but I project it on them. Most people and things I let it roll off my back and I ignore it/them. There is one person at work that has been a struggle she is a Leo which tells me alot right there if I butt heads with anyone it will be a Leo. Plus now at my firestation I am in a dilema in how to respond to a situation and I have been brooding about it ever since it happened. I vasilate between taking the high road and screaming like a banshee and everything in between due to the fact my security/feelings have been attacked and betrayed. So yeah Tim ..you assessment is correct

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maroon_flower
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posted March 29, 2006 11:21 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cool thread Carlfloydfan

Fully agree with you regarding scorp children and the importance of inspiring them to have the feeling/need to protect the weak and vulnerable. A scorpios natural tendency is to protect those who are helpless. However, on a negative side- if not well cultivted in childhood , may lead to bullying/manipulation once the scorp has grown up and realises he/she is by far the strongest. As they say- we can be either a saint or a sinner. Cultivate that which u want, and watch it blossom!


A cheerful Scorp sun

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dogstar
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posted March 29, 2006 04:58 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
completely off topic as usual. anyway you said all so my mother in law is scorp rising and her rising conjuncts my venus. also in scorp also her saturn is in scorp and conjunct my venus she is highly competetive with me always trying to be more of a friend to my friends than i am and always tries to argue with me about how to treat her son. also she brings up the past alot like when he was a child so she can brag about all the things she did as amother help me out is this karma is it my karma to be stuck with this or is she a female dog

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carlfloydfan
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posted March 29, 2006 06:19 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
your post is welcome here dogstar for sure. I think being competitive is just another way to show emotion. Some people choose to go that route all the time, to put your whole self into something that can beat out another. It might not be the highest form of self expression all the time or the best form, but help your mom find the right outlet.

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pixelpixie
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posted March 29, 2006 08:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry to say, but I think it's just a mother in law thing.

I know, I know.... put two mother hens in the same coop and feathers fly, no matter when they were born.

Don't I know it.

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Autumn wind
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posted March 29, 2006 08:56 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tim, Thankyou! that did help!
Yes I am very sure that he is aware of the situation, as you stated. He used to be more emotionally secure, but over the years, it has deteriorated. Mainly because of an incident that happened a few years back that basically traumatized him for life.
He did in that situation, take the "your no friend of mine" approach, and had to give up a 20 year career because of it, not to mention someone who was supposed to be a good friend. Now he does not want that to happen again, in this path he has taken, and gets frustrated when a similar situation takes place.(totally understandable)
Anyhow, thanks again! I'll get him to read your reply and I'm sure it will help him a great deal to put things back in perspective.

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sue g
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posted March 30, 2006 10:55 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Stargazer

I find with our 7yr old Scorp boy, if we encourage him to bring up his anger and let it out, he is far quicker to get over it then.....I find the following are helpful.

We bought him a punchbag and he can use that (much better than someones head). He is a gentle one, but gets very frustrated with life and others at times so we have to be careful that this isnt turned inwards.

Singing, dancing, running around the garden screaming. He actually sings in an opera type voice and I am teaching him to project his voice.....hehe...he sounds cool..

I will also sit down with him and get him to shout out what he feels.....like the other day he said "I HATE......because she was bad to me at school". Ive told him this is okay to say it to me...to say anything to me...I will always honour what he feels...but we cannot go around punching and kicking others. Again I will teach him to be assertive, without being aggressive.

As he gets older I will encourage him to write down all his feelings, maybe in the form of poetry or songs and channel it that way...

All I got told as a child was "there, there, you will be better soon", or told to "shush". When I was hysterical once as a teenager, my father shoved a valium tablet in my mouth. That was one of the most disempowering of experiences in my life....it knocked me out and I couldnt talk....of course it was heaven for them, they didnt have to listen to me. The good thing.....I am now anti drugs, so they did me a favour in a bizarre sorta way!

I think its so important that children are heard and seen and allowed the space to express.....I told my son, if nothing else, he can come to me and say anything. He looked up at me with those big deep Scorpio eyes and replied "I know mum and that is why I love you, I can be me"

love
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posted March 30, 2006 12:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stargazer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sue... What a dear you are to help me

"We bought him a punchbag and he can use that (much better than someones head). He is a gentle one, but gets very frustrated with life and others at times so we have to be careful that this isnt turned inwards"

I agree, and got something similar...they are called "Hulk Hands" much better than taking it out on his sister!

He does like to sing and dance too... It is a release of all kinds of energy I think the outward expression needs much direction but out it must go.. or i end up with on very unhappy little boy!

He is such a bright loving child! I really do love this age.. He is demanding, but it always comes out as a polite request...of the melt your heart variety

His only water planet is his Sun in the 9th....
Thank you for all your wisdom

BTW... I invited 2 of his younger cousins to come over this weekend...We have some spring crafts planned... I have explained to my son that he is going to help his younger friends with their projects... He hasn't stopped talking about it

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dogstar
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posted March 30, 2006 01:25 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thakyou for the advice talk later

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Autumn wind
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posted March 31, 2006 10:58 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Spoke too soon! Sorry to say that nothing will help.
I tried to be understanding and give the best support I could but he says he is tired and just does not care anymore. He said he is tired of trying and that I don't know what I'm talking about and that I don't care or understand the magnitude of his problem.
He basically thinks I don't understand or more importantly FEEL for what he is going through, I DO! but it is impossible to get him to see that!
Unfortunately, I don't have the answer and all I know how to do is to understand the bad things and look at the positive things, to try and lift his spirits. (what else can one do?!)
No matter what I do, say, say nothing, whatever! NOTHING matters. It does not help.
He says it has nothing to do with me, then lashes out at me? Maybe I'm not perfect, but I do know that I tried my best and just because maybe some of my Libra frustration shows itself when he is trying to vent, does not mean that I am unaware and unfeeling. Maybe I should just give up too.
Thankyou for listening and for trying to help me before.

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