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WaterNymph
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posted March 29, 2006 06:24 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Who is more likely to cry in public or around people they don‘t trust?…who never seems to?…and who waits till home to weep?

I cry easily, tho I try really hard to avoid it in public. I’ve also seen Scorps cry easily, being a water sign, it‘s no surprise. However, I have yet to see a Cancer cry…which is a tad worrying.

My young cousin is a Cancer, and she is pretty sensitive…I mean REALLY sensitive. I’ve seen my Sag aunt shout harshly at her in front of her friends, and yet she kept her composure. She was also shouted at, unfairly I might add, by this horrible woman we know who also insulted her father…who she adores - not a tear…not even a glisten.

It was obvious she was hurt, but she just stood there. Quiet and controlled I’ve noticed this with other Cancers…tell me your secret I don’t understand how a water sign can not cry? especially during childhood! I’m sure they prolly cry once they’re home

I’ve seen Aquarians cry. My Aqua aunt was telling my mum how she cries easily. I’ve seen that happen with friends, and my brother. However, their crying isn’t a blubbering kind like mine it’s more teary eyed.

Till this day I’ve never seen a Gemini cry, except this one girl who was getting bullied at school. Other than her, no one else. My dad never cries, his brothers don’t cry either. They just don’t.
??????

Libras and Sags also don’t seem to cry in public either - Capricorns never.

Arians and Leos, yes I’ve seen them both. Unsure about Taurus & Virgo.

So what do you think? Or more accurately…who have you seen cry in public/ around those they don’t trust?

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Full-fifthhouse-loulou
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posted March 29, 2006 07:03 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Waternymph,

With five planets and my ascendant in water signs I come close to tears often. With happiness, with sadness, with all emotion. My instinct is to cry. But sadly my childhood means I have extreme control over it. I can hold them back and appear utterly cool and calm.

As a child I wasn't allowed to cry. I would be in serious serious trouble. As an example, when I was only six I fell right off the top of a bunk bed onto a wicker chair, cutting my stomach all over to the point of bleeding. Yet I didn't cry as I knew my fate (from my father) would be far worse if I did.

I still find it hard to let those tears fall.

However in normal situations I feel the water signs cry the easist as they are sensitive.

However I know a lot of passionate fire signs who cry easily with emotion, especially passionate leo's.

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mysticaldream
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posted March 29, 2006 07:47 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I also cry very easily but it embarrasses me if I cry in public (at the movies or whatever). Actually, I am a Libra but I have a Scorpio Ascendant, so maybe that's it. I usually cry not because my feelings are hurt; I cry from empathy (seeing the devastation of the hurricane victims or just seeing someone else cry, I always have "sympathy tears"). 2. When I'm really, really mad. I have no idea why I cry when I'm angry!

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thosa
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posted March 29, 2006 08:27 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cancer sun(10th)/Libra moon(1st)/Late virgo asc..

Generally:

First of all I'd like to say that the only people over 15 I've seen cry in public have been females.

Males usually don't cry in public, because crying is regarded as a feminine trait, so I think most males might have something in their head telling them that they'd appear weak if they lost composure in front of others(well that's somewhat the way I feel )

My story:

As a child I used to cry very easily in front of others and I used to take everything personally...any little comment used to hurt me and could make me cry..and of course when I cried I used to get teased..

Gradually I learned how to control myself and stopped crying too much in public..I think this change happened when I was 12 years old or something..

I'm almost 18 now..I NEVER cry in public..I don't even cry in front of my family, because my family doesn't handle emotional stress that well..and to some extent I think I'm the strongest one emotionally in my family, therefore at least one person has to keep his head cool..I think this is because of my virgo asc and libra moon...I'm still very emotional, but not like I used to be, and I know to control myself..I rarely cry...I think when I want to cry I just get angry, then I go out and lift some weights and vent it all out...

I think crying is a very limited trait in me..I only cry when;

- Somebody close to me passes away

- I sneeze, then a little drop of tear falls out

- When I wake up

- And if someone is veeery emotional, who could use someone to cry with, then I'd gladly cry with that person!


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Taurus80
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posted March 29, 2006 10:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taurus80     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Heyy WaterNymph,

i can cry VERY easily in public. when i get very angry about something, even at work i have to fight off the water works lol.. i have always been this way, when i was little i was always crying in school when someone was even LOOKING at me the wrong way..lol
i'm not embarrassed to start balling during at the movies though. i do hate crying in public, sometimes it makes me feel weak.. i really don't have a lot of water in my chart..only uranus scorpio and MC pisces..so i don't know what aspects may effect crying.. my friend is a Pisces Sun/Scorpio moon and she cries for anything too, but deep down i'm even more sensitive than she is.. geesh lol

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maroon_flower
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posted March 29, 2006 10:35 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hmm.. I must agree with mystical dream..I too cry 'empathy tears'.. am very very easily moved by sadness/tragedy/feelings.I literally can feel the other person's pain. (piscean moon)
And yes, I often feel like crying when I'm very angry..more out of sheer frustration that I cant just go up and anhilate the bad guy/gal off my planet! ...It's awful feeling impotent/helpless knowing that the bad ones get off scott free yet again.

But on the whole, I really rather not be seen crying in public.. cant let the vulnerable scorp side to be exposed to any unexpected attack. So, the mask has to stay on. But, yes..when home and alone.. I dont hold back the tears. Unfairness always hurts me.

Scorp sun/Piscean moon/Taurus asc

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jkxx
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posted March 29, 2006 10:51 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cap sun/moon/asc w/ moon in 12th conj neptune and venus in pisces

I can cry empathy tears as well and usually get overwhelmed by moods (good+bad) at least a half a dozen times a day. But thanks to my AvPD my control over it's incredible - won't show a hint of human emotion with people present

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lalalinda
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posted March 29, 2006 11:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Water signs can cry on que. You don't want to mess with these women unless you're ready to feel like a jerk.
An effective weapon

Fire signs (especially Aries) would rather die first than cry and show any weakness.

Earth signs will wait untill they're alone to have a good cry and then try and hide it.

Air signs tend to take it in stride, and look at it for what it is.

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hot_ice
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posted March 29, 2006 11:22 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pisces...for sure,i got a fiend,he can turn on the water works at the the drop of the hat.Movies college,anywhere.....

cancersr,cry,but with only the people they know,liibras usually dont cry unless its extreme like heartbreak or death etc...

aquas,yes,but very rarely...

Gems and scorps naaah,we do it privately..alone when no bodys around and nobody will ever find out we did....


caps....only with people they know,that too very close ones..

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Nihilive
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posted March 29, 2006 11:58 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Taurus children cry easily in public, but are emotionally set in stone as adults. It seems.

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posted March 29, 2006 12:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Virgo-AriesArtist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Earth signs will wait until they're alone to have a good cry and then try and hide it.

Very, very true...I did that for most of my formative years...then only recently, did I let myself cry in public, and only when I can't stifle tears back any longer, and it hurts to hold them in. I (as a Leo moon) expect people to notice when I am crying, but most aren't that perceptive...

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posted March 29, 2006 12:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueTopaz124     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm a Sag and have cried around people I work with but is a rare situation that I do.

Usually my tears are shed around people I am very close to, otherwise would mostly cry in private.

I like your term 'empathy tears', because if I hear a sad or touching story (it can be something positive too), my eyes will well up and feel a tightness around my heart. I was talking to my son last night and he was spending time with at his friend's house whose sister (age 21, also my son's age) had died that day from a 7 year battle with leukemia. I didn't know her, but cried. Very sad to lose a young life like that, she was the youngest with two older brothers.

So, it depends on whom I'm around and can relate to crying tears of frustration - that's happened more often than I can remember.

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victoriasgirl1
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posted March 29, 2006 12:28 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To answer your question about Cancers, I'm a Cancer and I cry easily, however, I'm very unlikely to do it around people. I usually wait until I'm alone to cry. Maybe it's also a sign of my Asc. Aries, because I do feel that crying is a sign of weakness. My Saggie daughter however, cries at the drop of a hat with no remorse.

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Almost An Angel
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posted March 29, 2006 02:28 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm a Taurus with Capricorn Rising... I don't like to be seen crying.

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neval3000
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posted March 29, 2006 02:44 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hýmmm.i am scorpio sun ;aries moon;asc sagitatr...i cry;when i anger..i dont cry if i sad...but when my NERVES are up;and when i get angry i begin to cry...and i smile for in one minute(look ascend sagit )

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posted March 29, 2006 08:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm an 8th house Cap sun, and ... I'm a bit of a crier.

I do cry at movies, and I'm sure all of my friends have seen that at some point or another. I think I've adjusted as much as anyone can to the movie-watching aspect of public crying. I don't try too hard to stop it, and I don't mind wiping my face.

I also seem to have difficulty with my emotions when expressing gratitude.

Could be the whole Sun Square Moon thing.

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posted March 29, 2006 09:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for alanabelle86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've got 5 planets in Water signs (4 in Scorpio, 1 in Pisces) and the Moon in leo with a Libra Asc.


I'm very very very very very sensitive. BUt I never let myself cry in public at least. I try and bottle up all of my emotions, so the only one I express is anger.. but when i get so so so angry and all that anger comes out, then i cant help but cry...

It embarrasses me though, and that Leo moon would do anything to avoid embarrassment...anything...

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sdg1844
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posted March 29, 2006 09:41 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I'm an empathetic crier as well. I don't cry for myself @ all. I cry for others though. Anyone w/a hard luck story or over coming adversity gets me every time. I don't cry in public much. I remember watching "King Kong" and tearing up when he died though I knew the outcome beforehand.

I can't watch "Animal Cops" on Animal Planet @ all because of the abuse that some of these pets suffer. I'd be bawlling daily. I do most of my crying in private. My Virgo Ascendant and Taurus Midheaven insist on a level of composure and dignity in public. My Cancer Moon won't let me fake emotions @ all. It keeps me honest and I like that.

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posted March 30, 2006 05:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I almost never cry in public and I'm a cancer. I never even cried when adults would scold me as a child. I usually wait when I'm alone. The last time I cried in public was when my uncle died. I have a capricorn rising though so that may be it.

*Oh and I wanted to add that it could be that "shell" of ours that is "oh so infamously" talked about.

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Arnicka
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posted March 30, 2006 11:34 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Im Pisces.Capricorn.Leo :
+Pisces = wherever/whenever
+Capricorn = not in public, ever!
+Leo = in private, please - if only to preserve the pride
So for me this all equals to mostly in private but if I feel the mood really *hit* then my Cappy side loses sway and Pisces takes over and then Leo ends up feeling embarrassed.

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WaterNymph
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posted March 31, 2006 06:17 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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As a child I wasn't allowed to cry. I would be in serious serious trouble. As an example, when I was only six I fell right off the top of a bunk bed onto a wicker chair, cutting my stomach all over to the point of bleeding. Yet I didn't cry as I knew my fate (from my father) would be far worse if I did.

My childhood is so similar!! We were not allowed to cry, or else..


I’m very much an empathic crier too…if I see someone cry, or in emotional pain, I will relate and cry. Even tho I don’t want to.

I also cry when I feel controlled or restricted.

So Cancer’s do wait till they’re home to cry if only I had that kind of self control.

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Fire signs (especially Aries) would rather die first than cry and show any weakness.

I would no doubt agree if we’re talking about young men. But females or mature men…I have seen cry. I think it would go in the order Sag, Aries then Leo…I have lots of Leo in my family and I’ve seen them cry.

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WaterNymph
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posted March 31, 2006 06:24 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think signs that rationalise emotions are less likely to cry eg Gemini, Virgo, Libra, Sagittarius & Capricorns.

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posted March 31, 2006 09:37 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
An interesting article to balance the "crying"

The Elusive Search for "Happiness" - May 9, 2005
by Janet Swerdlow - Sunday, July 10 2005, 05:42 PM

The search for "happiness" seems to be the pervading theme underlying everything that almost everyone does. How many times have you said or thought, "I could be happy 'if'" . . . Or, "I will be happy 'when' . . . "

How many ways have you filled in the rest of the sentence? "I could be happy if/I will be happy when . . . I have a new car, a different job, my boss retires, my relationship changes, I lose weight, make more money, etc., etc. " How many ways and times have you completed these types of sentences?

How many times have you achieved one of the above? Were you happy for a while, and then you started thinking about the next way in which you could fill in the sentence?
At some point in time, you may finally realize that "happiness" is an elusive term. You may have the feeling of happiness from time to time from outside input, but to sustain that emotion "forever" most likely is not going to happen.

For one thing, "happiness" must be fulfilled from whatever exists inside of yourself, rather than from an outside source. Trying to fill yourself with "happiness" from an outside source is the equivalent of trying to fulfill your emotional needs by eating chocolate cake. They both give you an immediate sense of fulfillment, but eventually the moment is going to pass.

This is what forces you to continue your search. When you get that new car, you think of something else that will make you even happier. Or, maybe the payments create distress, or it has mechanical issues, or you wish that you would have gotten a different make, model, color, accessories, etc. The circle starts over again. As long as you try to fulfill your emotional requirements from any outside source, you will eventually become disillusioned, be it person, place, or thing.

"Happiness" is a relative term. When you look around, you "should" be able to state numerous reasons why you "should" be "happy," but are you? Think of what other people do not have compared to yourself. Maybe you do not care for your job, but at least you have one. Somewhere, there is some person out there wishing for a job. Regardless of how menial or thankless you consider your position, someone, somewhere, would be "happy" for the opportunity to be in your place.

Many people place their elusive search for happiness on attaining a specific goal, or "dream." Do you think that once you attain your dream you will be happy? How long have you had your dream? Have you allowed your dream to change with you, or has your dream remained a constant?

"Happiness" is only one emotion within the circle of life. There are a variety of emotions that comprise your totality. "Happiness" is only one small part. If you focus on only one part, even when it is developed inside of yourself, it will be out of balance with your other emotional parts.

For example, if fear is not in balance, you may "fear" that you will lose your happiness. If "anger" is not in balance your temper may destroy your happiness. Everything must be in proper alignment for the totality of you to exist in any kind or harmony.

Happiness is an elusive term for most people because they do not have a clue about maintaining the whole person. Happiness by itself and as generally defined in the linear world is never going to happen.

Recognize that happiness is simply part of the whole. Learn to enjoy the richness of every experience, cultivating all parts of self in such a manner that your totality is fulfilled in a deep and satisfying way. Appreciate every experience for the wealth of knowledge that each one holds, both positive and negative. You will soon realize that the dream of what you once sought was only an illusion. Now, you can replace your old dream of finding "happiness" with a new dream that evolves in the same way as you.

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posted March 31, 2006 10:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am SUCH a cryer.
empathy tears are huge for me.. I cannot listen to a story without being moved.
I cry from anger or frustration ( I HATE that about me) Like, if i am having a discussion, i want to be able to express myself, without theatrics, but if it cuts too close to the grain, forget it, I have to compose myself, I will cry.
It's not a cry baby look at me thing ( in fact, I wish I didn't do it so easily, as I find it somewhat embarassing in the wrong circumstances), it is like a release valve...
People know if they tell me something, I will empoathise to the point of crying with them. No one can talk to me about devastation in the world without my crying.

I think it is healthy though. Bottling things up never helped anything. Sometimes I will feel tension all around me..... not only from my own experiences, but others, and I can feel that soon, I will need to cry it out, release some endorphins.. so I will be alone to do it.

Being a mother has opened me up to my emotions more.. healthy ones. The depth of love makes me weep. I can cry happy tears as easily as sad tears.
I beat myself up sometimes, over misunderstandings, and then I will NEED TO cry and feel better.
Movies? I totaly cry. I cry when I watch The Incredibles... hahaha....
Once I cry though, I can usually get myself together enough to compose a sentance.
I am not a loud cryer, I am very closed when I do it.. tears, and little else... unless I am really affected. I have only 'weeped' mournful sounds and such a few times in my life... as a major release.
*oh! Fourth house Scorpio Sun ( double does of water) with a total of four Scorpio placements.... Capricorn Moon, Leo rising. ( six fire in my chart)

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sue g
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posted March 31, 2006 10:28 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I too am a cryer

And a laugher.....I cry and laugh a lot....

I sob, weep, wail, scream, when I am able, drive to the mountains and scream and sob from the bottom of my soul.

I am very proud of my ability to express from such a very deep place within me....

And I suppose one could deem it appropriate as I do have 5 planets in Scorp and my Sun sits next to Neptune.....such a watery Pisces feel to the chart......

Whenever I stop crying, I shall be worried....and its so good to see my man has started to heal thro this own tears too.....

Crying heals, and as our small son says "it stops you from getting ill".....I think he is on to something there.....

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