posted April 02, 2006 05:08 AM              

There was a woman there I had never met before.....long foxy coloured hair....playing guitar, very enthusiastically...

Anyway she started to sing...oh wow....beautiful voice, a cross between Joni Mithchell and an Irish singer here who I cant remember the name of.

I noticed every time the level of noise increased, she would bash the guitar even more and sing louder....hahaha !!!

I normally sing, but hung back and just carried on playing my fiddle...I was so enjoying listening to her and watching her "perform".

Towards the end of the evening my music teacher called for a song from me....I declined and said "oohhh I couldnt follow that"....but he and a couple of other guys kept on so I did....very nervously....no instruments, just naked singing...room silent...oh god.

I couldnt help notice that the guitar woman walked off when I sang.

At the end of the evening I went up to her and congratulated her on such a wonderful talent. I then leaned over and said "I hope you dont mind me asking, but are you a "Leo"......and in a very strong, almost indignant voice she replied "WELL OF COURSE I AM"

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.......

Gotta love them Leos....

posted April 03, 2006 11:07 AM              

And she also had the Leonine dignity to walk off....
so YOU could have the spotlight all to yourself!

Probably getting herself a beer or something.
Probably needed a break after belting it out, her songs!

THAT was showing RESPECT for another performer!

Having a few close Leo friends...
That is what I believe.

Also...you never met her before. She could probably tell you were a regular and knew alot of folks and probably felt a little nervous being a stranger there.

posted April 03, 2006 11:49 AM              

It is considered very rude to walk away.

People only go to the bar between songs...

That is a part of the tradition here....to be ever present...

posted April 03, 2006 12:44 PM              

Sue, I couldn't help but notice that in your reply to Fayte you contradicted yourself in what you stated in your original post.

You stated that it is the tradition of the people in Ireland to sit and listen to a performer...to be respectful. Yet in your original post you stated that while this Leo woman was performing there was a lot of noise in the bar, so much so that the woman was forced to play louder as the noise level increased. Now that does not sound to me like the people were just sitting and listening and being respectful while the woman performed as you stated is the Irish tradition.

Sorry but I couldn't help but take note of the obvious contradiction.

If people were not being respectful while this woman performed as you clearly stated in the original post, then my question is how was she being disrespectful of you if she just went to get a beer.

Also, I have to agree with Fayte, you did not know the woman so perhaps it is possible that you were interpreting her words and actions to mean what you either wanted them to mean or what you just perceived them to mean. We all do that from time to time.

posted April 03, 2006 02:21 PM              

The non drunken ones understand the respect thing.

The musicians dont get drunk.....they pay respect to each other.....they would say "sshh sshhh....aaahhh come on lads, a bit of quiet please"

And so do the non drunken ones who observe, watch and remember the laws of sean nos.

Its an Irish thing....you would have to be here to understand it.

So sorry if I was misleading in my description......

The Leo woman I speak of left Ireland for a while to dwell in another land.....so maye along the way she forgot her culture.....the sean nos.....

Maybe.....she just didnt like another woman singing.....?

Who knows....?

posted April 03, 2006 02:35 PM              

I mean...later in the evening the rude drunks would have been even more rowdy.

Yet it was "silent" for your solo but not her performance.

Maybe that made her feel upset at everyone because she did feel that no one was giving any respect to her, and made alot of noise, but then treated you with respectful silence.

posted April 03, 2006 02:48 PM            

In the US (at Irish pubs frequented by a large Irish population - meaning from Ireland orginally and in everyday bars) we dance, sing, drink and laugh while people are playing up on stage. If it is a quiet song, then people will get quiet to listen.

Here singers may drink or not, it's their choice.

It would be considered incredibly rude for a performer to remain on stage while another performer is coming on for their act. That is a sign of major disrespect.

I also find it weird that everyone was quiet and respectful for YOU but not for her.. then again, that may be because you were singing a capella and she was singing with a band (?) I am assuming this because you said something about normally you would sing but instead you hung back and played your fiddle. I am also assuming you were part of her back up and not competing with her as she sang.

It seems to me that she handled herself and the crowd quiet well. It can't be easy to sing above a crowd that is noisy as all heck. No wonder she needed to use the restroom and have a beer

~Pidaua

posted April 03, 2006 02:53 PM              

What do you want me to say?

I was wrong.......?

Okay?

If thats what you wanna hear so be it.....

Fecking hell I was just hoping to tell a story.....wont bother next time......

Too much energy wasted on this....

If I am wrong, over sensitive, judgemental, wrong in my assumptions etc etc etc.....so be it ......I am a human being who makes mistakes.....

What else can I say.....?

Jeeeez

posted April 03, 2006 02:59 PM              

Just curious, but did you or any of the other "non-drunk" and "respectful" people in the bar attempt to silence the drunken ones? If so then why as Fayte pointed out did you find it funny that she had to play and sing louder to be heard? That was a good question.

Also, why were the drunken ones in the room suddenly silent as you sang if, as you stated, they were "too drunk to notice they were being loud?"

It just seemed to me that there was some kind of deep issue here that you have with Leos or maybe other women that you see to be competition???? I don't know you so maybe that is just my perception. But your post seemed to be kind of self-promoting, comparing yourself to this woman who was a stranger and just doing her thing as you were doing your thing.

posted April 03, 2006 03:08 PM              

in my culture it is true..like your behaviour...it is respet ;to listen singer as quiet..especially in live music(not band)

and there was band (i mean no singer-only in disco and bar-people goes to have beer..)

i understand you...sometimes people get annoyed not respect or not be self -sentered..if they are leo this is too...so ;this behind the lioness..if she is another sign;again disrespect or not self-centered meaning..even if she is leo;she must learn how to behave...(like other signs as well)

so please dont sorry...dot use such words..

posted April 03, 2006 03:10 PM              

Maybe you just might have hit the proverbial nail right on the head....

Did you ever consider psychiatry....hehe?

And now you are gonna turn around and say "well actually..... I am a shrink"

Hahahaha.....

Now where is that phone number for my therapist....or should I fly over to you......you seem to know me pretty well....

What else can I say sisters from the over the pond.....you see contrary to popular beleif, I am not perfect....

posted April 03, 2006 03:13 PM              

Hello to you, Pidua. Thanks for the welcome back and it's good to see you again on the threads.

We are not victimizing you, Sue. It's just that your little story here kind of put down a whole lot of Leo women ( which I am not one of incidently ) so it was not just an innocent little story.

I feel that all signs have their strong and weak points and dislike it when people use astrology to point out the weaknesses in other signs and only point out the strengths of their own signs. It seemed to me that you were doing this here which is what I meant by "self-promoting."

posted April 03, 2006 03:13 PM              

You aint a Scorp by any chance are ya?

Take care yerself...

posted April 03, 2006 03:20 PM              

We crossed posts again. I stated we are not victimizing you so there is really no need to play the victim.

posted April 03, 2006 03:22 PM              

Self-promoting?

Maybe.....will think about that one....

And we dont have stages.....we sit around in a small pub almost like someone's front rooms....very informal, modest and humble.

Its almost as though time has stood still in parts of Ireland.....and the traditons have been kept in tact.

Okay maybe in the future I will be careful of what I am saying about the signs.......after all do I have room to comment....being a sting in the tail...

posted April 03, 2006 03:28 PM              

HD

Loved that pic.......hehehehehe......

Cute or what?

posted April 03, 2006 04:16 PM              

I nicked it off the web .. ( improved it .. er .. slightly .. :-) ..
it's an avatar from some guitar playing character called 'slick cat' ...
i'm still trying to figure how it was done ..
.. am experimenting with stray kitten .. as i type ..

.. here's another nicked one .. ( Sl.Star will have my hide for this ) ..
i think i'm developing a liking for imgs of startled stubborn one's :-))

posted April 03, 2006 04:43 PM              

Haha

Love those startled stubborn ones !!!!!!

Thanks

posted April 14, 2006 11:16 PM            

adios.

posted April 15, 2006 12:05 AM            

Fayte, you use to be really close to Sue g, whats going on?????