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Topic: jews are choosen ppl ,God ppl
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sd09 unregistered
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posted April 15, 2006 02:48 PM
is this try?IP: Logged |
sd09 unregistered
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posted April 15, 2006 02:48 PM
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Lynx Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Aug 2009
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posted April 15, 2006 03:01 PM
I'm inclined to agree..that there are many Jews that I consider to be on a more virtuous path than others, but I do not think that there is such thing as a "chosen people." I could just as well convert to Judaism and say that God always intended for me to join the tribe of the chosen and that is why I joined, but that is rediculous. Why all these religion questions? IP: Logged |
Duality unregistered
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posted April 15, 2006 03:59 PM
My view is either we are ALL "chosen" or none of us is...IP: Logged |
Happy Dragon unregistered
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posted April 15, 2006 04:35 PM
*Why all these religion questions?* .. probably 'cause it's easter .. ..religion features on the tele .. .. judas may not be the bloke we thought he was ..i just caught the story of christ .. all Indian cast .. made in the 60's i think .. Indian director .... watching it was quite strange .. background music was all Indian .. tablas .. sitars ... put a different perspective on things .. *any commen(t)s* to connect this thread up to astrology .. you'd probably have to figure mr abrahams birthday .. and why he had such a hankering for figs with his afternoon cup of mint tea .. Mel Brookes loves you .. chag sahme'ach .. and .. le'chaim .. IP: Logged |
lalalinda Moderator Posts: 1120 From: nevada Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 15, 2006 06:52 PM
Jewish? I don't think so. I do love Jewish culture and tradition though.the bible says the meek (asian) shall inherit the earth lets just hope that Iran doesn't try and wipe Isreal off the map and that we still have an earth left. ------------------ Courage is fear that's said its prayers Michael Cole IP: Logged |
AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 4416 From: Pleasanton, CA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 15, 2006 07:18 PM
The meek Asians, huh? That's funny.IP: Logged |
juniperb Moderator Posts: 856 From: Blue Star Kachina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 15, 2006 07:19 PM
The Sermon on the Mount and the Beatitudes are indeed lovely . I have never heard the definition of "the meek" being Asian tho ------------------ We Dance around a ring and suppose, but the Secret sits in the middle and Knows.~Robert Frost~ IP: Logged |
Luvly unregistered
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posted April 15, 2006 07:32 PM
Why are the meek the Asians? Where is the evidence for this conclusion? I am not aware and would like to see what information/knowledge leads to this statement.IP: Logged |
sd09 unregistered
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posted April 15, 2006 08:05 PM
,love controversial discasstionsIP: Logged |
lalalinda Moderator Posts: 1120 From: nevada Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 15, 2006 08:43 PM
why is it funny Acoustic God? whats funny about Asians??IP: Logged |
Lynx Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Aug 2009
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posted April 15, 2006 08:47 PM
I choose you, Pikachu.IP: Logged |
AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 4416 From: Pleasanton, CA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 15, 2006 09:07 PM
Why is it funny? Because you just decided all on your own that God favors the Asians. That's a pretty brash statement.IP: Logged |
lalalinda Moderator Posts: 1120 From: nevada Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 15, 2006 09:20 PM
you're in over your head. I'm not God and I don't pretend to be. I haven't decided anything I also don't laugh at any individual race.Matthew 5:5 Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth. the bible is nothing more than an interpretation of God's will my interpretation comes from years in parochial school and the good Father Mike. IP: Logged |
Theodora unregistered
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posted April 16, 2006 04:42 AM
The KJV New Testament Greek Lexicon Meek: Strong's Number: 4239 Original Greek Word - prau>paqiva 1) mildness of disposition, gentleness of spirit, meekness I think Father Mike was working his own personal theory into there. It was a popular line of thought at the time. There was a big scare in the early 80's that the Japanese going to buy out all the major companies and take over. There were even rumors spread that they were buying out national landmarks, and had made an offer on the Statue of Liberty. There was a T-shirt reading "Welcome to Ja-Merica." There was a lot of talk at that time that Asians were taking over the world by high population alone. I was a small girl, but I remember hearing the adults talk. IP: Logged |
breakfast on pluto unregistered
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posted April 16, 2006 05:04 AM
we are all chosen people;not only jewish but i know that jewish people believe in that they have chosen by god..so they act.. Actually ; i believe they are intelligent mostly wise... IP: Logged |
lalalinda Moderator Posts: 1120 From: nevada Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 16, 2006 05:34 AM
well thank you Theadora, for a minute there I was beginning to believe I was from some renegade/maverick faction of the Holy Catholic Church. I associate meek with passifism and subservience. Which from a culteral or traditional standpoint describes the Asian race. On the whole it describes their views on living an honorable life. After looking up the word Asian I was a little surprised to see it Included India but not intirely (surprised) because this would include Ghandi and Mother Teresa who epitomised the very best of meek. There is a huge difference in the word meek as opposed to the word weak. http://www.bible.org/illus.asp?topic_id=1729 Mr. Dickson sounds like he?d be a lot of fun, doesn't he? What is disturbing about all of this, though, is that many people assume that the ridiculous ideas behind DOORMATS and Cower Power represent the quality of meekness set forth in Matthew 5:5. Many, even in the church, think that to be meek is to be weak. But the opposite is true. What the Bible is talking about is a powerful virtue. The slogan strong enough to be gentle? comes close to defining it. True meekness is best seen in Christ. He was submissive, never resisting or disputing the will of God. His absolute trust in the Father enabled Him to show compassion, courage, and self-sacrifice even in the most hostile situation. Now let's apply this to ourselves. When we are meek, we will bear insults without lashing out in proud resentment or retaliation. Well thank God in every circumstance, while using every circumstance, good or bad, as an occasion to submit to Him. Meekness would be weakness if it meant yielding to sin. But because it stems from goodness and godliness, it is a great strength. I didn't mean to push religion down anyones throat as it is not appropiate for an astrology forum. This seems like a long way around to answer a (possible) yes or no question "Are the Jews the chosen people" Out Edit: Theodora, In the 80's the Japanese came in to invest and met or offered the appropiate prices on our major Corperations, and got them. We're talkin huge ammounts of money. But in the end we lost out. We ultimately gave up any power associated with longtime American Icons. With these Corperations there is immense power. A good book on Japan's opinion and business ethics with the US (even though its fiction) is Michael Crighton's Red Sun. Very enlightning.
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Theodora unregistered
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posted April 16, 2006 07:03 AM
lalalindaVery few people (especially those from the WWII generation) view the Japanese as a kind and passive people. I have a friend in his 40's who will bang the table in the middle of a public resturant when he speaks of "The damn Japanese bombing pearl harbor!" (To my great embarrassment.) It wasn't long ago in this country we were rounding them up to put them in isolation camps. Many of them lost their homes and property. I think if Father Mike meant India he would have said India. Only in the UK is the word "Asian" used to mean "Indian." They use the word "Eastern" to refer to what we in The States call "Asian." Was he originally from the UK? An Irish Catholic perhaps? Still, I don't see why a Catholic Priest would believe Indian polythiests, who worship many different Gods and Goddesses are the "Meek" spoken of in the Christian Bible. It is possible. But doubtful. Mother Theresa was an Albanian, born and raised in Yugoslavia. (Now Macedonia.) I think he was either 1) Using logic, because there are more Asians by population than any other race. Or 2) He was cracking a joke. Is there any way of contacting this Father Mike, to ask him directly where exactly he got this idea? IP: Logged |
lalalinda Moderator Posts: 1120 From: nevada Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 16, 2006 07:35 AM
no Father Mike has passed He was Irish and had a wonderful way of teaching through parables. Then I did not get the impression that he was speaking of India. My impression at the time was China or maybe Korea although he was never specific and refered to it as the yellow race. Mostly he inspired faith, forgiveness and passifism somewhat. ------------------ Courage is fear that's said its prayers Michael Cole IP: Logged |
Dulce Luna Newflake Posts: 7 From: The Asylum, NC Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 16, 2006 07:53 AM
God first revealed himself to the Jews but that doesn't mean that they're the chosen people. I don't really think God has favorites. IP: Logged |
cappyme Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Oct 2009
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posted April 16, 2006 08:41 AM
Ok jews are not chosen god people, Indians are not chosen god people. People are people, we don't know God, and I'm an Indian, and personally I don't remember being appointed by God to go take on a chosen task, as cool as it sounds. ------------------ Don't go to bed angry. Stay up and fight! IP: Logged |
pixelpixie Newflake Posts: 8 From: ON Canada Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 16, 2006 11:24 AM
I looked up 'meek' on an online disctionary.. I am sooooooooooooooo not getting into a religious discussion, but without dogma, I will say... Perhaps what is being said is not 'a people'/a culture/a country or a specific religious sect....Meek by definition... shall inherit the earth.. means do not take what is not yours, repect others, do not hold yourself to a higher regard than others ( share), showing patience and humility, humbleness..... etc. Those set of traits are desireable in anyone, and they contribute to harmony all throughout the Globe. We are all 'chosen people' IMO. If we choose to see it. http://www.thefreedictionary.com/meek IP: Logged |
sd09 unregistered
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posted April 16, 2006 11:36 AM
u right pixie,but there is another question coming up ,where the hatred against jews coming from HUH, Holocaust and e.x.tIP: Logged |
sd09 unregistered
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posted April 16, 2006 11:40 AM
why the saffering so much are they curseth IP: Logged |
Gooberzlostlovefound unregistered
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posted April 16, 2006 11:50 AM
breakfast on pluto~Not cool.. to insinuate that jews are snobbish, think they are superior to others....nah, not true. IP: Logged |