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GeminiLover75
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posted May 04, 2006 11:32 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've learned that I have Jupiter opposite Pluto, and I read that this is causing me to be stuck in a job where the money is good but there's no personal growth. This is where I am right now and I truly am stuck with this job because I need the good money to be able to get out of debt and THEN move on with my life. With Pluto doing this, will I ever be able to move on? Can I beat the influence of this planet?

I have Jupiter in Aries and I know that when I do act more like an Aries that's when the rewards come for me. Also, my boyfriend has an Aries ascendent and moon and he gets all, "Aries must come first" and takes up all the mirror space and whereas I'm used to putting myself first I find myself putting myself second because he gets so dominant! So I spend less time in the mirror to look Taurean-beautiful and it's annoying... lol! Also he has Pluto in Virgo (5th house) which I believe makes his bossiness worse. His Pluto is opposite mine (Libra, 11th house)... am I letting this Pluto influence get the better of me in the way it seems to be repressing my Jupiter influence? Can I beat Pluto??? If so, how?

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wilsontc
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posted May 05, 2006 12:15 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
gemini,

In a synastry, strong Pluto energy in one or the other person's chart needs to be SHARED with BOTH people in the relationship. When one person tries to be the "powerful one" in a relationship, power struggles result. When both people work together to build a powerful relationship, a stronger relationship results. Pluto opposite Pluto in a synastry indicates a strong possibility of a "tug of war" of power. Share the power and duck out of all the "power issues" entirely!

Suggesting sharing,

Tim

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GeminiLover75
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posted May 05, 2006 12:29 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ah yes, I agree! This is what it said in a relationship chart I had done for us when we started seeing each other - it said if not careful we would get into power struggles... I'm not into that, so what results is that I compromise and he gets his own way a lot because he's really into "winning" in general - and I wish he wouldn't bring that into our relationship. I didn't realise it was to do with Pluto until today, so I might bring this up. I've talked to him about this before but he doesn't listen. So am I best to continue being the compromiser and hope that it somehow rubs off on him?

Thanks for the info on this, it's really a revelation!

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wilsontc
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posted May 05, 2006 10:21 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
gemini,

Pluto's lessons are always challenging. The Pluto lesson here seems clear: share power or you don't deserve to be in a relationship. Sometimes we have to take severe steps (such as breaking up a promising relationship) in order to get others to understand that they can't simply control the world to get their way. Of course, often the overcontrolling person blames everyone except the SOURCE of the problem...themselves.

But there is only so much you can do. If you are interested in religion, Buddhism says we need to "make effort"...but does not promise us success at the things we "make effort" to do. All we can do is to do our best...and then move on.

Suggesting taking drastic steps if no change,

Tim

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alanabelle86
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posted May 05, 2006 10:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for alanabelle86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree, the best way to deal with a Pluto issue is to do what Pluto ISNT good at...that's sharing.


I, too, am in a heavily Plutonian relationship
(Sun,Moon, Mercury, Pluto in Scorpio...and Pluto in the 1st house etc.), besides being heavily Plutonian myself...

There has to be an equal distribution of power and that has to be clear. You don't want to get into THOSE kind of power struggles, trust me. They're nasty, and usually can be easily avoided (and btw, i mean N A S T Y )


Don't risk the relationship because of power issues, I almost did that and continue to almost do that because I myself am learning the lesson of control.

What i've learned is that Pluto energy works both ways. I'll give you a personal example...


As I said, I myself am heavily Plutonian and my god, I'll admit, I have extreme power trip issues. I can't be in relationships where I don't have teh upper hand and so I choose "push over", or "weaker" and more "passive" mates who pretty much let me sweeten them, charm them and yet boss them around.

My current boyfriend is a Sag, he's verrrry lenient when it comes to this. He always steps over to the side when I get into my moods and try and lay down the rules but it doesn't go away...that Pluto power is still seething somewhere within him because if it's in a relatio ship chart then in my opinion BOTH parties experience the issue, just in different ways. Anyway, my boyfriend seethes. He won't say much, but he boils over inside until when he does say something it's insanely explosive to the point where it's EMOTIONALLY violent. It feels like the world has not just crumbled beneath my feet but has combusted within a huge explosion and i'm sinking farther and farther away. And the worse part is that it doesn't stop there....Yeah, it can get that bad. And this is with anyone.


All I'm saying is that, you don't want to be in his place because granted, you'll be the one with the upper hand THEN but at the same time, do you want to have to keep all of that turmoil and stress inside? Imagine what that must feel like. I think you two should have a heart-to-heart about it...it the relationship is worth it and has potential, then it will work itself out...


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