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alanabelle86
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From: Somewhere over the rainbow
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posted May 05, 2006 09:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for alanabelle86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So, I put relationships on a pedestal and a grand scale which sometimes seems superhuman. I know that deep inside somwehre, though i don't show it...i'm a hopeless almost fatally desperate romantic, and i idealize relationships and love and potential partners to the point where every male i meet i envision as the future husband, even if im not attracted..and this is within seconds of meeting..

don't get me wrong, i'm in a very serious relationship now and though as a person, i want nothing more than marriage and love and just romance cuz it would feel SO great to have that..and i do have something quite close


but the flip side is... I dream about it...but something about me just doesn't want it to come to fruition...I mean, I love looking at other peoples relationships and I get SO jealous cuz I find myself saying why cant I have that? Even though in every relationship, crush, infautation, admiration I give so much of myself to another person who probably couldn't care less...


It's like hardwired in my nature to overexpect, and over-idealize people before i meet them so i CAN be let down so i CAN reassure myself that being alone, with lots of money, and a great career, and success is the way to go the way to be. that love, marriage, etc only brings hardship and career and self-fullfillment should come first...


then the other side of me says, i'd give up anything and everything for love...id die for my lover and god, i want him to know that...id give up my dreams if it meant for him to be happy...and i'd be FINE with it...

Is this a Fixed issue? I mean I have the Moon in Leo ..which I hear is super romantic and possibly one of the most romantic placements yet...but it's in the 10th house. Does the Moon's energy being focused in the 10th house stifle and curb the way it's expressed? Can the passion and romantic feelings associated with this placement inspire a person to be in love with the ideal career or a career they're pursuing..?


My Moon is also heavily afflicted...

It's square my Sun, Venus, Pluto, and Jupiter
It's opposite my Mars
It's quincunx my Neptune (which is a singleton, big time)

Part of a T-Square with Pluto and Mars
And another TSquare with Mars and Venus

I was wondering if anyone was interested and seeing what's up...

Planetary positions
planet sign degree house motion
Sun Scorpio 02°43'08 01 direct
Moon Leo 08°25'44 10 direct
Mercury Scorpio 26°26'08 02 direct
Venus Scorpio 18°05'52 01 retrograde
Mars Aquarius 10°07'28 04 direct
Jupiter Pisces 13°15'20 05 retrograde
Saturn Sagittarius 07°44'42 02 direct
Uranus Sagittarius 19°48'34 02 direct
Neptune Capricorn 03°30'27 03 direct
Pluto Scorpio 07°06'28 01 direct
True Node Aries 20°48'33 06 direct

House positions (Placidus)
Ascendant Libra 25°30'42
2nd House Scorpio 23°18'34
3rd House Sagittarius 25°25'33
Imum Coeli Aquarius 00°22'59
5th House Pisces 03°44'14
6th House Aries 02°14'08
Descendant Aries 25°30'42
8th House Taurus 23°18'34
9th House Gemini 25°25'33
Medium Coeli Leo 00°22'59
11th House Virgo 03°44'14
12th House Libra 02°14'08
Major aspects
Sun Square Moon 5°43
Sun Square Mars 7°24
Sun Sextile Neptune 0°47
Sun Conjunction Pluto 4°23
Sun Conjunction Ascendant 7°12
Moon Opposition Mars 1°42
Moon Trine Saturn 0°41
Moon Square Pluto 1°19
Venus Trine Jupiter 4°51
Mars Sextile Saturn 2°23
Mars Square Pluto 3°01
Jupiter Square Saturn 5°31
Uranus Sextile Ascendant 5°42
Neptune Sextile Pluto 3°36


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Libra Rising, Scorpio Sun, Leo Moon

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alanabelle86
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From: Somewhere over the rainbow
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posted May 05, 2006 09:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for alanabelle86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe it has something to do with my Venus/Mars conflict... Since Venus rules my chart...and Mars is pretty much the ruler of my DC...and it's in Aquarius. Maybe that's where this whole tug of war feeling comes from....I don't know but it's driving me crazy...can someone help? Anyone? Tim? lalalinda? anyone? :-(

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nove731
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posted May 06, 2006 08:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nove731     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
[edit]

I misunderstood.

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wilsontc
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posted May 07, 2006 12:32 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
alanabelle,

Take a look at Libra/Venus/7th house in the chart (all are about "relationships". This should help give you some idea of how your relationship energy works and what you are looking for in a relationship.

Keeping it simple,

Tim

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alanabelle86
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From: Somewhere over the rainbow
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posted May 08, 2006 07:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for alanabelle86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
does the 12th house normally associate with "fears" or subconscious fears? or things you've always tended to "stray away from" because you well..on some extent fear/dont want to get involved/are confused by?? things you would consider a secret personal "danger" but not by other people but to yourself and your psyche?


I ask because I have Libra on my 12th house cusp (pretty much most of it, ASC is at 25 degrees Libra), and I've heard this can indicate either secret affairs in some way or another, fear of relationships, or someone who gets involved with opposing people because theyre easily deceived in that area...or just avoids them all together.

I also have Venus in my 1st house, would this mean that any relationship i form has/and has to have an influential affect on me personally.maybe putting them on too high a pedestal?

it's in scorpio and i know that part of me is so do or die about anyone i love.

but then i have on my 7th house cusp, aries. obviously this means i attract independent go-getter types, but the ruler of my 7th house is Mars and it's modified by aquarius. could this mean that i'm "actively independent" sometimes even overindependent to the point where i'd rather just literally "date myself" because i only want to do things for myself. i would think Aries/7th house would make any partnership a bit more fiery and turbulent but I don't want to generalize...

oh i'm so confused

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posted May 26, 2006 11:26 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
alanabelle86 -

I'm reading your post and amazed that all you are saying is so close to my life experience. I recently sort of, had breakthroughs which allowed me an almost magical pass.

The first astro influence that came to mind is my Moon/Saturn Opp. And my Saturn is in Capricorn, which can be VERY unnerving when you find yourself continually watching the whole world ride the fun ride while you stand by watching. YOU want to be on the fun ride, don'tcha? We come up with an amazing labyrinth of subconcious justifications when we aren't aren't in it, and then we feel confused when we forget the original intent was.

I then thought of Neptune when you mentioned the idolizing thing, and you say it's a Singleton. Neptune is also Sextile your Sun and Pluto. The Singleton/Sun part makes you appear more Piscean, or it could affect your motivations if you don't think you look Piscean. The Pluto part adds some intensity, and any harsh Aspects to Pluto can make you appear very illogical at times, even confusing yo own dammn self.

And again, your Sun is Conj Pluto, but then it seems like your trip all over that Moon & Mars Square the same Pluto. You may feel more and more as if you cannot deliver. Just remember, it might not be wise to try to justify any of this. Just get on the fun ride for a spell.

Anyways, I do see some Cappy influences in your Chart, like I have in mine. Firstly because of our apparant retardation in social situations, but also, I think when the energies of Cap & Leo combine in certain ways in a Chart, it could easily add to a bad habit of putting others on a pedestal. I know all about it ...

... your Saturn is in Sag, so stop all this over-analyzation ... but then here comes that Neptune in Capricorn calling 911 cuz da music is too loud ... you have Moon Trine Saturn, so you allow yourself a couple of laughs before you slug home ...

... hmmmmm ...

Moon in Leo in the 10th House (which Rules Saturn/Cap) ...

... your Moon is dying to LOVE someone with passion - it's where your emotions are involved in a relationship ... so you go to take that first step, and not only are you going down with the ship, but your Moon Square Pluto makes sure you make an unforgetable exit ...

So who wins? Your Saturn influences? Or the Neptune, or the Pluto? They all seem to not be getting along, and even if you try to micromanage the situation, you don't end up with gold. What to do, what to do ...

Your Mars want to do SOMETHING, towards romance. An Aqua Mars in the 4th House - you DO have the ability to attract cool crowds to your home, but it might not be enough to mellow out those other energies which continue to be at cross-purposes no matter how you look at it. Well, you'll try anyone, and your 4th House Mars in Aqua is down for the count of 3.

Well, your Mars is playing nice with it's Sextile to Saturn, because your Moon in the 10th will gravitate towards any Sat/Cap influences. But then your Mars Square Pluto brings it on by painting the walls black.

BUT - you have a nice Neptune Sextile Pluto and your Sun is Sextile Neptune. Which one wins? I'm putting my money on Neptune, so do your homework ...

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