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Topic: Sags -Paradox and confusing
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jani_jean unregistered
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posted May 08, 2006 01:14 AM
The primary quality with them is frank talk lacking tact at times , blunt ,straightforward ..come straight to the point unlike cancers..no beating arnd the bush etc..right .. If so why then do we ( i am a sag myself) 1 .keep wounded feelings to ourselves without blurting it out 2 soak ur pillow whole night not wnating to disclose our hurts ,when we are famous to blurt out everything and never sucessful in keeping secrets. 3 how can such a cheerful carefree sign be affecetd by sometiems v minute changes noticed in the way a clsoe person speaks.?seems like a paradox to me ..wanted to ask other saggies here if they experience or feel the same and soak their pillows nad keep all hurt all to themselves .Becoz i feel nobody can help instilling those qualities which i feellacking in a person so that it can make me happy.
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MysticMelody Moderator Posts: 1066 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 08, 2006 02:24 AM
I had a female Sag friend with a Pisces moon and Scorpio Ascendant. She was joking and cheerful most of the time and appeared fiercly independent. Her Scorp AC carefully hid her inner emotions, but her Pisces Moon cried at night with loneliness, and the need for someone to be strong for her, so she could rest. I'm sorry you feel so alone. Please don't forget to take deep breaths, and pray. IP: Logged |
Kamilla unregistered
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posted May 08, 2006 07:48 AM
Well, I have to agree with you on all three counts. Although I think in my case it's a combination of Sagittarius Sun and Leo Ascendant. I can be hurt easily but I would never let anyone know, especially the person who inflicted it,how much I was hurt. Out of all my tears, may be 1% was on someone's shoulder and the rest went to the pillow. Please note, while it's a common observation that Sagittarius can be blunt and even tactless, no one has ever said that we have thick skin ourselves. We don't like to show it because to show that we have been hurt is to show the weakness. And it's a little embarassing. Also, in a way it's a form of self-defense. As quick learners we can't help approaching others from this angle and we don't want to give anyone a lesson in WHAT exactly they have to do in order to hurt us again. As for crying in the pillow...well, sometimes loneliness is the price of freedom. And consciously or subconsciously we choose freedom over and over again. On the bright side I beleive that for Sagittarius the hurt can be sharp but it's rarely deep and it takes a true tragedy to make us wet the pillow more that one night in the row IP: Logged |
secretseeker unregistered
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posted May 08, 2006 08:04 AM
Yip. This rings true for me too. I'm sure the song "Tears of a clown" by Smokie Robinson was written about Saggies. I wonder if Smokie was a Sag.Sag with Scorpio Asc and Leo moon. IP: Logged |
natasoula unregistered
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posted May 08, 2006 08:33 AM
I can totally relate to what you guys are saying. I have a Sag Sun, a Leo Moon and a Pisces Ascendant. I never show my feelings openly. Even people who know me very well don't get to see me crying very often. During the day I keep it all bottled up inside, but at night everything just bursts out. However, this leads people to believe that I'm this incredibly strong person, who can take it all ... you know, like they don't have to worry about my feelings, because I can't possibly be hurt. IP: Logged |
Q unregistered
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posted May 08, 2006 09:48 AM
Oh wow, I'm a Sag rising with Uranus on the ascendant to boot, seriously freedom seeking. I have mercury in scorpio square jupiter also. Tactless is a good way of describing me...but you're SO RIGHT! I find it very hard to be straightforward when it's about me being hurt and vulnerable. My significant other's think I don't care...but I am so sad if they leaveIP: Logged |
Lialei unregistered
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posted May 08, 2006 10:12 AM
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villy unregistered
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posted May 08, 2006 12:30 PM
Hey Jani_Jean,I too won’t be disclosing the hurt feelings to anyone unless I have an intimate relation with someone. Don’t know if that’s due to Sagi Ascendant (with Neptune) or Pisces Sun. And your post makes me again wonder if my Sagi friend ever has feelings for me or everything gets buried in the pillow I suggest to have someone close and blurt it out. (quiet Simple to say for me, howerver it may be hard for you) And Lindaland is always there V IP: Logged |
jani_jean unregistered
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posted May 08, 2006 08:28 PM
Dear pals hmmmmm so many experinecing and in the same position ..i think as kamila righlty sd its a form of self defense ...we dont want to show that we can be soooo sensitive to even tones in speech !! i am like that..i get woudned soemtiems even by the tone /expression ppl talk.Does anybody here find the eg i will tell hurting/making u feel sad : If a person always ends an email writing"with love" suddenly writes in the next mail as "best wishes". In the whole mail to me this gets mangnified and contemplate a lot. i have lots of scorpio in my mercury, venus, uranus i think. again sags are sd to be messengers and communicators of zodiac but when it coems to communictaing their feelings/hurts esp they are tongue tied and talk as if nothing happened . Oh wat a pity thanks for sharing IP: Logged |
BlueTopaz124 Knowflake Posts: 207 From: Portland, OR, USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 08, 2006 11:18 PM
I'm a Sun Sag (and Ascendant, Mars and Jupiter there as well)with Mercury in Scorpio, so I can relate to what has been said about us Saggies...I have to agree heartily though with Kamilla: "As quick learners we can't help approaching others from this angle and we don't want to give anyone a lesson in WHAT exactly they have to do in order to hurt us again." It's part not wanting to show weakness and not wanting to be hurt is why we appear strong and resilient. Very few see my tears and they are those whom have earned my complete trust. Laura IP: Logged |
Thorshammer unregistered
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posted May 08, 2006 11:22 PM
NOW my questions is...everyone above me...were you all females?IP: Logged |
Kamilla unregistered
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posted May 08, 2006 11:36 PM
Um...I don't think so Although, I am. Why? Too much "pillow talk"...lol?IP: Logged |
secretseeker unregistered
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posted May 09, 2006 06:31 AM
Lol, Thorshammer. I kind of assumed we were all girls and wondered to myself if the guys felt like this too. Going by your question that would probably be a no then.IP: Logged |
Thorshammer unregistered
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posted May 09, 2006 12:50 PM
Yes my Seeker, For me it would be the opposite. I think I am totally blunt, even when I know, "Don't say that.." I am still thinking..."just say it and tis be done"I have quit more jobs (just so they wouldnt fire me..lol) written more letters to bosses basically telling them off (in the most professional manner)about what they do wrong. My mother and I argue about Religion continuously..lol. Its just me. I a fight for the underdog all the time. My temper is like Zeus himself at times...lol. Heck read some of my post, I am not backing down, even when I should. I think Sagi woman think more (all women think more than men) than Sagi men. Sagi women seem to let things linger longer: "what if, WHEN, HOW" Sagi men just move by the seat of their pants, knowing usually all comes to grips. My sons mother is a sagi I. I am a Sagi II, such a difference in people, but I would agree with you all that she fits the categories you mentioned above. It seems that both genders in this case are different, where as a Leo girl seems more to a Sagi Males liking than a Sagi Woman. I just get along better with Leo woman romantically and openly than Sagi woman. ??? SO yes thats why I asked if you were all Female Sagis cause there is such a difference from what I have seen. I say...if you can...if you really want to...just let it all go!!! holding back always brings doubts and "what ifs" later on. IP: Logged |
secretseeker unregistered
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posted May 09, 2006 01:01 PM
Right, you heard him girls. Let rip! IP: Logged |
Kamilla unregistered
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posted May 09, 2006 03:37 PM
What a great enlightment, men are not too thrilled with women who THINK...lol. I entirely agree with an observation that Sag men like Leo women. Being Leo Ascendant myself I enjoyed their attention on many occasions, especially while wearing short skirt and/or top with deep cleavage But then, I think they also like Aquarius girls cause they are SO funky, Pisces girls cause they are all warm and fuzzy, Aries girls cause they can be ferocious, Taurus girls cause they buy them beer, Gemini girls cause they are SO flirty, Cancer girls cause they take them home and don't get upset if their hero falls asleep before even getting there. Virgo girls... No, not really. Well, may be if there is no one else around. Libra girls cause they are great to show off to friends, Scorpio girls, oh, yes, dark and sexy.... Capricorn girls cause they always have spare 20 bucks to borrow So looks like the only ones Sagittarius men are not too fond of are Sagittarius women cause they think more than men do. LOL. What? I just tried to follow your advice and "just let it all go! LOL IP: Logged |
secretseeker unregistered
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posted May 09, 2006 04:05 PM
Lol, you go girl! Must be my Leo moon and Scorp asc my Saggie man likes. IP: Logged |
pidaua Knowflake Posts: 67 From: Back in AZ with Bear the Leo Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 09, 2006 04:48 PM
Kamilla"Well, I have to agree with you on all three counts. Although I think in my case it's a combination of Sagittarius Sun and Leo Ascendant. I can be hurt easily but I would never let anyone know, especially the person who inflicted it,how much I was hurt. Out of all my tears, may be 1% was on someone's shoulder and the rest went to the pillow. Please note, while it's a common observation that Sagittarius can be blunt and even tactless, no one has ever said that we have thick skin ourselves. We don't like to show it because to show that we have been hurt is to show the weakness. And it's a little embarassing. Also, in a way it's a form of self-defense. As quick learners we can't help approaching others from this angle and we don't want to give anyone a lesson in WHAT exactly they have to do in order to hurt us again. As for crying in the pillow...well, sometimes loneliness is the price of freedom. And consciously or subconsciously we choose freedom over and over again. On the bright side I beleive that for Sagittarius the hurt can be sharp but it's rarely deep and it takes a true tragedy to make us wet the pillow more that one night in the row " Perfect quote...
As a Sag Sun / Aries Moon / Virgo rising - I couldn't agree more. Thorshammer - I'm a female
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boo unregistered
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posted May 09, 2006 06:52 PM
More, more. You never read anything like this about Saggitarius. Im dating one now. Saggie sun, Leo ascendant, Taurus moon. So I appreciate all the juicy details.IP: Logged |
mars446 unregistered
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posted May 09, 2006 07:21 PM
Hey Saggi men!!!!Tell me something...how do u act when ur mad? Do you throw tantrums, barely say more than one word for each question, or not speak at all? Do you give the cold shoulder and say things and find that others don't understand you very well? Oh, most importantly....do u go around the bush when ur angry, not wanting to say what's bothering you until the person prys it out of you? Thanx a lot! IP: Logged |
Planet_Soul unregistered
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posted May 09, 2006 08:32 PM
Well I am a Saggi girl, but I will still tell you how I get when *** off. I also curious as to how the Archer male deals w anger. Anyways, when I am upset I want to be left alone. The Fire burns brightly, and I want to be able to step back and take a breather. I become silent until I am calm. If I am really mad, then I will lift weights or take a walk. Physical activity does much to soothe me. My displeasure is great but short-lived. I also don't spill my feelings to just anyone. I like cheering people up and don't want to rain on anyone's parade. I also dislike appearing weak, so I keep most of my problems to myself. I have a Fishy Moon and friends are always coming to me with their problems. I enjoy listening to them, but sometimes it is draining/frustrating. Knowing what it feels like, I don't want to drain others by venting on them. IP: Logged |
mars446 unregistered
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posted May 09, 2006 09:43 PM
Ooops, I forgot to mention.....I meant when a saggi guy is mad at someone close to him, how does he react?IP: Logged |
virgorising unregistered
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posted May 10, 2006 01:56 PM
because dont forget jupiter is the original ruler of pisces - we are ( i have moon in sag conjunct jupiter) philanthropic compassionate people - want to help others - get to truth etc etc - and we do give out good vibes and help to others but always in a i'm ok jack way - like were always happy when were not ...thing is we always come out as bouncy laughing etc so that our own problems are not voiced/heard so we do cry in our pillowssag people need to ask for help more re the being blunt i have no problem with that lol..its whats needed many a time lol EVEN when you go over the top IP: Logged |
villy unregistered
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posted May 10, 2006 02:01 PM
I have observed on quiet a few occasions when a Sagi male friend gets angry (not with close ones). Its all out bluntly. (I haven’t got his other placements). Other Sagi male friends have mostly been demure of blunt talk after getting angry/hurt.IP: Logged |
mars446 unregistered
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posted May 10, 2006 04:58 PM
So the demure ones...do they give the cold shoulder, and would take a long time to respond (b/c of their anger), and when they do, they give u one/two word responses? I'm asking b/c I wanna figure out if my friend is a saggi/cappi asc.IP: Logged | |