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MoonPixie
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posted June 04, 2006 12:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonPixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've often had my sun, moon, asc and chart interpreted, but there are still those small things that haven't been explained. Those being:

1) Taurus Jupiter in the 8th House
2) Gemini Venus in the 9th House
3) Pisces Mars in 5th House
4) Scorpio Pluto in 1st House
5) Gemini Venus square Pisces Mars

Many explanations of Taurus Jupiter are very general and not very indepth. Usually, they just say I should be overweight, materialistic, and that I believe that money solves everything. I'm not any of that, but I'd still like to read some your interpretations of Taurus Jupiter.

I've heard plenty (both negative and positive) about Gemini Venus and Venus in the 9th House, but I still wonder what it means when you put the two together, you know? I already sort of know that I'm the travelling type (I have an obsession with anything foreign), but still nothing really indepth online about Gemini Venus in the 9th house, specifically.

Pisces Mars scares me, lol. I've heard nothing good about Pisces Mars except that I'm emotional (Cancer Sun, Scorpio Moon?? Thanks, I think I know I'm emotional...) and creative. Is there anything positive about Pisces Mars??? At all??.... Also, what are your interepretations of Pisces Mars in the 5th House??

Scorpio Pluto in the 1st House is the one placement I both love/hate thte most. I always feel this constant urge to CHANGE CHANGE CHANGE. My friends always tell me it's hard to explain me because I'm either always "metamorphosing" my personality or just really secretive. They even call me a loner sometimes. . . I just wonder how Pluto in the 1st House effects the rest of my chart.

Gemini Venus square Pisces Mars is my toughest aspect. I don't have anger problems (in fact, I'm very very passive at times) but I have noticed that my relationships with the other sex have never been the easiest. I'm always breaking free from the relationships and I'll admit that I get very very resentful and jealous when in a bad bad mood (hello scorpio moon...). I dunno. I just want to know how this'll affect my relationships and how I should handle it. Objectivity. . .

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MoonPixie
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posted June 05, 2006 02:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonPixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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sdg1844
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posted June 05, 2006 01:35 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moon Pixie: I can't tell you how much your statement about Pluto resonates with me! I am NEVER satisfied and I am in a CONSTANT process of reinvention and change. It has frustrated me to no end, until I came to understand that it is my lot in life to always reinvent myself.

I am also very private and "secretive" even though I have 3 planets in Gemini. I almost NEVER talk about personal matters. I have people who've known me for 20 years, that still don't really and truly know me @ all.

I also have Venus in Gem and it squares my Uranus and Pluto making relationships w/men challenging because I want to be very close and very independent as well. It's an oxymoron that I'm working on.

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Scorpio Pluto in the 1st House is the one placement I both love/hate thte most. I always feel this constant urge to CHANGE CHANGE CHANGE. My friends always tell me it's hard to explain me because I'm either always "metamorphosing" my personality or just really secretive. They even call me a loner sometimes. . . I just wonder how Pluto in the 1st House effects the rest of my chart.

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Before you speak, ask yourself, is it kind, is it necessary, is it true, does it improve on the silence?
-Sai Baba

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whiterabbit
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posted June 05, 2006 01:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for whiterabbit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
First off, you haven't mentioned this yourself but I notice that you have an exact Uranus/Saturn conjunction in the 3rd house. I imagine this would have something to do with your need to change which you also find frustrating because Saturn wants a safe/stable place to stand and Uranus has that need to constantly be on the move. However,
this is all happening in the 3rd house, which is on the level of consciousness, the way you think.. and therefore it is greatly shadowed by that first house Pluto.. primarily because of the power of the planet over all others.. but also because it is located in the 1st house- most immediately apparent, plus having to do with your "image", and your sense of self. I would put this all together and say that although you have a great need for constant profound transformations, a small part of your mind wants to resist this (Saturn).
As for your Taurus Jupiter/8th house.. I understand why you would get frustrated with the interpretations you've come across but you should find a way to put a new spin on them which suits you better. For example- Jupiter in the 8th could indicate an extremely sexual person- and what is wrong with that? But if that's not the way you see yourself.. consider some of the other realms that the 8th house rules- they're quite profound. As you already know, Jupiter amplifies whatever it touches- and the 8th house rules the great questions of existence, mysteries of life/death, the occult (such as astrology) as well as.. again.. profound transformations (this is definitely a theme in your chart). So, it could indicate an interest in mystical philosophies (combining the Jupiter and the 8th house energy), astrology, Tarot, the meaning of existence. These questions might be on your mind frequently. The 8th house also rules taxes, inherited money (so you may have some luck here), and the end of your life. Perhaps it could indicate a happy end, comfort and luck and joy when you are old. Adding Taurus to the mix, I would say you are a very sensual person, but you do not show this quickly to people, and it takes a very intimate situation, deep and profound in some way, for you to show this aspect of yourself. This CAN be sexual, but it isn't necessarily so. It may also mean that a certain amount of comfort and luxury are important to you- you don't have to view this as being materialistic- that is just the extreme manifestation of this placement.
Gemini Venus/9th house
The fact that you can't find an on-line interpretation that puts the house,sign and planet together makes sense, I've found that you have to read what you can get your hands on and then use that to combine it all in your head.
With this placement you have that Gemini/Sag (9th house) dichotomy which is tricky when Venus is involved, as both of those signs are famous for being difficult to pin down. I imagine that you have somewhat of a restless heart, never out to hurt people, but you may hurt them nonetheless with your need for bouncing around, always in search of a new adventure, a more stimulating environment and more interesting people. The Gemini Venus would make your romances intellectual (being an air sign) and give you a need for constant stimulation and new experiences, whereas the 9th house placement would just add to this.. the need for distant journeys and foreign things. Are you attracted to "foreign" people by any chance- those of a different culture than your own? I imagine this would make it likely that most of your love affairs would happen while you're travelling or in some sort of academic setting, because both Sag and Gemini rule education and travel.
Pisces Mars/5th house
I imagine that you've read a lot about passivity with this placement, as well as a fondness for hallucinogens, so I won't get too into that. But you have to acknowledge that to some extent, you do have a predisposition towards passivity. It's important to know this kind of information about yourself so you can avoid the self-destructive behaviour it could lead you towards. Whenever Mars is in a water sign it is a difficult placement, because the energies of Mars do not mix well with water. But you can do a lot with this tension. For example- both Pisces and the 5th house (Leo) are associated with creativity and performance. Pisces has the imagination and divine inspiration and Leo has the business skills, and love of audiences. Combined with Mars (drive), this is a GREAT placement for art of any kind.. music, writing, acting.. for some reason I get a strong music vibe, but that's just my personal opinion.
Sexually speaking, there is a great potential here for deep spiritual experiences with the right kind of partner, and an ability to tune into your partner's innermost thoughts and feelings.. which is both useful and complicated when you are intimately involved with someone. In general, having a Pisces Mars would give you an ability to tune into the energies of people around you. The 5th house location of this adds a lighter tone to this complex placement, but it also indicated that this Pisces Mars energy will probably show itself most prominently in your romances (as well as when you are around children, and when you're engaged in creative pursuits).
Pisces Mars/Gemini Venus square
It makes sense that there wouldn't be too much anger here because it's a mutable sign square, but I imagine this is very difficult for you. Primarily I would frame it as a question of conflicting desires, which always makes relationships difficult. Your Pisces Mars wants to merge with another, feels somewhat out of place in the hustle-bustle madness of the dating world.. this is a secret romantic side, deep and melancholy and dissatisfied with "ordinary" romance (especially with the 5th house placement.. which adds the Leo drama/passion to the mix). Your Gemini Venus is friendly and outgoing and wants to meet everybody and never wants to settle down. There are two very different energies and it is hard to find balance.
The best way to handle this is to explore your needs/wants and discover which of these two realms is really more important. Judging by your 1st house Pluto placements, as well as your Scorpio moon and Cancer sun, I think the Pisces Mars is closer to your "true" inner nature. However, having those Gemini/Sag placements simply adds a new dimension which can create conflict within you, but more often than not simply makes you a more interesting person. It means you can function on many levels.. let those airy/fiery placements out when you're in a social situation or involved in a casual relationship, but unleash the watery animal within you when you're truly in love or dealing with things that are beyond the tangible, superficial world. The nice thing is that you can always use the Gemini/Sag placements to balance your emotional side when it gets to be too much, and you can use your watery side to add depth and feeling to the airy side. Use this duality to your advantage!
You also wanted to know how your Scorpio Pluto/1st house impacts the rest of your chart-
Although it is an intense, at times difficult placement, in your chart it fits quite harmoniously with your other planets, which is important. Luckily, you have a lot of water, which means a lot of nice trines. And when a powerful placement such as a Scorpio Pluto in the 1st house is in harmony with the rest of the chart, it means all the more potential for really maximizing the positive aspects of the placement.
I imagine you're a pretty intuitive person.. because the loose Moon/Pluto (in Scorpio!) conjunction in the 1st house combined with that Pisces Mars and Cancer Sun- you're a bona fide sponge for people's emotions, secrets and private thoughts. This is where you can use the airy influence to keep yourself protected from psychic intrusions, or when you're simply tired of always feeling the emotions of people around you. In general, I would advise you to practice meditation (or some other technique that you prefer) to shield yourself a little bit from all of that energy, because it is a lot for one person to handle. If you put your mind to it, I'm sure you could cultivate and refine these abilities but be careful when you're dealing with such matters.

Well, I hope that helped a little...remember to put a positive spin on all the interpretations you read and keep in mind the fact that they generally give the most extreme case.. you have to pick and choose what suits you and combine it with everything else in your chart.


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wilsontc
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posted June 05, 2006 03:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moon,

You may have heard this before, but with a least aspected (strong energy) Jupiter (expansion, also wisdom) focused in the 8th house (transformation, also occult), you have challenges "connecting in" with your knowledge of the occult. So you OVERstudy in an attempt to "make sense" of things.

Instead, realize that the knowledge is there, although you may not directly be aware of it. Accept that no one can know everything about everything and accept the knowledge when it comes. Be careful about the "need to know" taking over your life.

Expansively,

Tim

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Green Fairy
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posted June 06, 2006 09:02 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I cannot undersnatd my Gemini Venus *sob sob*
I guess being in the 10th house kinda fixes things up :\

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Belage
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posted June 06, 2006 10:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From what I understand, Pisces Mars make great dancers.

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