posted June 11, 2006 11:06 AM              

Meg's Sun's Taurus and Moon's Gemini...so...I guess that means that there was a bit of a disconnect during her very early days...?

I can see that.
He was in flight school and I was still stunned over being a SAHM and military wife - we were just kind of walking around each other.
I don't really see that applying so much now, though - we've gotten really close again, we're a warm, fuzzy fam. It's nice

As far as what her aspects say about us as individuals...

Jase:
Taurus Sun in the 9th - Astro.com's astroclick portrait says this: You are tolerant of people's faults and willing to ignore the bad side, as long as there is sufficient good in someone. You do not like people who are too critical or who see only the bad side of things....and that does kind of describe him. As far as the "Saggi" influences might go, he is pretty happy-go-lucky...and he sings a lot
(His Moon's in Taurus, so that works there, too.)
It's also pretty near that house, so it also lists a 10th House interp, which makes sense - he is the Moon and the Stars to that girl.

Sun conj. Mid-Heaven: Even while you are young, personal success and achievement will be very important. This aspect often means that you will be socially successful, but you must work for it.

You have a great need to be in control of your life You are very independent and do not like working under someone, which can create problems while you are young. If you establish a pattern of rebellion, personal success will be hard to come by.
Hm. I don't know how to apply this to the fatherly relationship. He is pretty focused on career right now (being a young officer), but he's also, on the other hand, a little resentful of "authority" (he's growing out of uber-authority issues that he had as a child).

Sun conj. Mercury (out-of-sign) - Well, yeah...his Sun's in the 3rd, so it's not surprising that he projects that energy.

Sun sq. Asc - Maybe she feels that he tries to supress some aspect of her personality...?

Sun trine Jupiter - Again, he's pretty happy-go-lucky and personable; having Uranus and Jupiter conj in Saggi in the 1st House probably doesn't hurt that, either.

Sun sextile Saturn - This may seem like a contradiction, but he can be a little reserved in his expression with those closest to him (no tearful declarations of love here unless something big's going down). With his Merc in Cappie and Aqua Sun, that also makes sense.

So...apparently he's like a walking god to her

posted June 11, 2006 11:06 AM              

Moon conj. Venus - Ah, this is nice
I have made it a point to be physically demonstrative with Meg. My parents weren't, and I grew up feeling that something was lacking. Maybe this reflects that.
It may also reflect my Taurus Venus in the 7th (which some have said is a pretty big factor in my chart).

Moon conj. Mars, by a wider Arc - Maybe this represents the pretty intense hormonal mood swings that I could have for like the 1st year of her life...? Dunno.
Regardless of how it reflects on me, it does accurately reflect her often very intense emotions (her Aries Merc probably doesn't hurt that).

Moon sq. Uranus - OK, I'm going to have to admit that I probably won't be able to approach this one objectively.
Perhaps it meaned that I seemed erratic in my emotions during her very early childhood.
(Which, again, isn't surprising...mood swings + frequent migraine's'll do that to ya.)
Or perhaps it just reflects how she processes my Uranus in the 1st trine Sun and to some extent my Aqua Moon...?
It can't be easy to have an eccentric Mommy.

Moon sq. Jupiter - Well, I know one thing that this *doesn't* indicate: I'm not extravagant with spending money. I'm the house budget Nazi (Jason's getting better, though).
Perhaps I'm exuberant...?
I dunno, again, it's difficult to approach this subjectively.

Moon trine Neptune - This one makes sense.
I am a Pisces Sun, after all.

posted June 11, 2006 03:01 PM              

Regarding my two children.
My son's sun and moon are relatively harmonious to one another - in cappy and scorpio. However I spilt up with his real dad just before he was born and he never bothered seeing my son despite my saying that he could whenever he wanted to.
My daughters sun and moon are in 'bad' aspect to one another, in pisces and leo, yet I love her dad, always have, and we have a great relationship and have done since she came into the world.

Also contradicting this theory....my sun and moon are trined in great aspect, in scorpio and cancer, and yet my mother and father had an appalling relationship. He beat her to death, was cruel and violent to me, gave my mum a nervous break down, she divorced him when I was eight and he abandoned all four of his kids after that.

And my hubby's sun and moon are in 'bad' aspect and his mother and father are happily married to this day.

So, this theory seems to fail in my family!

Good discussion though.

posted June 11, 2006 06:27 PM              

My daughter's chart baffles me. Although I AM represented by her moon conjunct Uranus (I have an Aquarius moon) I don't get where her moon conjunct Neptune comes from - aside from the fact that my Neptune conjuncts her ascendant almost to the degree. (what does that mean about our relationship?)

Her moon trines her Taurus sun, only by sign, not by degree, and although her father and I split up when she was only 6 mos. old, we've always maintained an amicle, mutally invested relationship when it comes to her. Interestingly enough, her sun in tightly conjunct her descendant, and she always has been daddy's little girl. They do alot of fun things together, and they really do have a strong relationship.

posted June 11, 2006 07:08 PM              

Prox, yes I suppose that's true, although she has a much harder time being honest about her "errors in judgement" to her dad than she does to me. She tells me EVERYTHING - even things I think I'd rather not know lol... I always thank her for honesty, though - and try to be rational about everything, not freak out and take a strip off of her. I don't want her to be afraid to tell me anything, like she is with her dad. She can't bare to disappoint him, although she doesn't seem to worry about that with me.

posted June 11, 2006 08:05 PM            

I think with my sister's sun-moon aspect it becomes more clear. Her sun in pisces squares her moon in gemini. They just were never on the same page. He was too moody for her to deal with. My mother is very mercurial which explains why most of us have mercurial moons

posted June 11, 2006 08:28 PM              

I did see my mum as more of an authority figure.. in the way Proxieme just explained.. but that was just when I was young. I've always had good communication with her though. I talk wayyy too much also.. she always tunes out. I don't really see her as authoritative these days.. She tends to get weird about certain things or want me under her wing..Leo style.. just -in case- anything happens to me lol.. But I can reason her out of this most times so its cool.. and she’s very supportive.. even when she disagrees. Actually her first reaction is to tell me how much she disagrees and doesn’t want me to do so and so.. But a couple of hours later.. she always apologises and says I should do what I want to do. I think that’s pretty big for a Leo person.. because it’s obviously hard for her to say that, when she does want something her way.. but I really appreciate the fact that she is very understanding.. after her lecturing part is over.

posted June 11, 2006 09:00 PM              

And lectures? Hells, ya - I'm always lecturing her about something. Then, I'm always supportive too, and tell her that her choices are hers alone. I always tell her I'll love her "no-matter-what". I guess my lectures arent' so bad that she dreads telling me anything. I don't even think she listens to them lol...

posted June 11, 2006 09:21 PM            

My Moon is at 5 degrees Sagittarius, and it only makes two aspects - inconjunct Jupiter in Cancer, and square Venus in Pisces.

The square to Venus makes a lot of sense to me. When my mother is in her normal, rational mind, she's very Sagittarian, even though she only has her Jupiter there. However, my mother also has some kind of mental or psychological disorder which makes her react rather irrationally, and just downright scarily when she's angry. Considering that Pisces is the sign of hospitals, prisons, confinement, and so on, it seems natural that my mother has such problems - she's confined in her own head, I guess. Maybe? I don't know. Whenever my mother gets angry, she yells loudly at people who either aren't there, don't exist, or both. She also thinks that no one notices. =/

posted June 12, 2006 11:24 AM            

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It's interesting how kids with Leo moms end up with Capricorn moons. I think that says something about Leo moms that we all should observe. Maybe they are more like dads than moms. Ruled by the sun, which is said to represent the father.

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