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LILYGIRL
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posted June 12, 2006 03:50 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does anyone have an experience with working with Solar Arcs? My Solar Arc Mars is at the exact degree as my natal Venus (Both right now at Taurus 22 degrees). What exactly might you anticipate and how long does that aspect/configuration's impact last?

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LILYGIRL
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posted June 12, 2006 08:29 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
over the top aggressive bump..

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astroleolady
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posted June 13, 2006 03:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for astroleolady     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Noel Tyl's book "Solar Arcs", but I haven't thoroughly studied it yet. I still want to pick up Carol Devine's "Solar Arc Directions".

There's not much info out there on Solar Arcs, but I did find these websites.

http://groups.msn.com/HOROSCOPESCHAT/predictiveastrology2.msnw

Solar Arc Directions move forward not only the Sun, angles and house cusps but also the Moon and planets by the arc of longitude travelled by the Sun in one day, for every year of life. On this basis, the relative positions of the planets and luminaries within the Solar Arc chart are constant; only aspects from them to the radical positions of the angles, luminaries and planets yield valuable interpretative information. A crude approximation to solar arc directions is the One Degree Method, whereby every planet, luminary and point in the chart is progressed by exactly one degree for each year of life - whereas the true mean daily motion of the Sun is marginally less.

http://www.thezodiac.com/arcs.htm

Solar Arc Directions: In calculating a Solar Arc Chart - all the planets on a chart are progressed (moved forward) at the same speed (using the formula of one day equals one year) as the Sun. So the aspects between the planets will always be the same as the aspects between planets in your birth chart.

After being calculated - these Solar Arc positions are then compared to the birth chart positions and are very powerful when used as a technique for the forecasting of external life events (and there's a lot more to it than this….believe you, me…).

http://www.cafeastrology.com/secondaryprogressions.html

I personally find the Secondary Progressed Moon cycles through the signs and houses very important in predictive work. I use these general themes as a "backdrop" for understanding the transits.

In my experience, more than one major progression happening at approximately the same time is more likely to point to an outer event. For example, in my own life, some significant events happened as follows:

Secondary progressed Vertex conjunct my natal South Node when I met a significant other. At the same time, my Solar Arc Directed Venus conjuncted my natal Descendant.

Another significant relationship began when my Solar Arc Directed Venus came conjunct to my natal Vertex. At the same time, my progressed Sun conjuncted my South Node.


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chrissymgreen
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posted June 13, 2006 08:36 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
dear lilygirl,

solar arcs are usually active for about 1 year -- 6 months applying to perfectitude (is that even a word?) to the *second* and 6 months separating. the arc you mentioned is written as mars=venus (you did say SA mars is at the same degree as your natal venus, right? i'm still sleeping). is the arc still applying or is it exact to the minute and second? what you want to look for is the period when it's applying by 30 minutes through all the way through to when it's separating by 30 minutes. pay particular attention to the month when it perfects and the couple months after -- it will be at this time that events relating to the arc occur, usually. you might also want to look at trigger transits -- see what's being activated in your natal to get a clearer picture of how this arc might manifest.

from tyl's book --

mars=venus: passion, impulsive sexual drive, excitement.


hope that helps ya.


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LILYGIRL
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posted June 13, 2006 12:43 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Chrissy. That is very helpful . I was really trying to wrap my head around the timing.

Apparently my SOLAR ARC MARS is currently at Taurus 22 12 and My Natal Venus, 5H is Taurus at 22 22.

I looked it up and on August 20th they will be exact, both at 22/22.

Weird,... my Saturn SA will also come exact to my Pisces Chiron at the same time.

...so wait Chrissy... do I feel that even before the exact match--like NOW!!--because YIKES!! something is going on ...or just when they match and then begin to separate...

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LILYGIRL
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posted June 13, 2006 12:44 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And thanks Astroleolady...that's alot of good info..I am heading over there now...

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chrissymgreen
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posted June 13, 2006 04:02 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh yes, lg, you can def begin to feel it before...some people seem to be more sensitive to the applying period. for me, i always seem to have the events related to the arc in question happen right after it perfects. youre def under the influence of this arc now if youre feeling this hot, sexy energy!

tyl doesnt cover chiron arcs, and i think thats a shame. for me, i have a tight natal sun/moon/pluto t-square, and about a year ago chiron arced to my moon 1st, then my pluto in jan of 06, and now it's just hitting my sun. i have to say, this has been a VERY intense time for me, inkeeping with the heightened emotionality (wounding/healing) of chiron.

ive learned this trick -- look to see what house the planet being arced to rules. for instance, when i met my last significant other (who just recently came back into my life, under an MC=Venus arc!) i had uranus=sun. the sun rules my 11th house (leo on 11th cusp) and tyl desribes uranus arcs as an excitation of something, in this case it would be an excitation of self expression (sun), and the area i saw the excitation of my self going on was in my SOCIAL life. bc let's face it, i may have libra rising and a 5th house venus, but im actually quite introverted and shy, lacking in social life (natal venus/nodes to saturn square, that sun/moon/pluto t-square i mentioned). so this was def an interesting arc for me to have -- it really woke up my social nature.

anyways, hope this helps ya.


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LILYGIRL
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posted June 13, 2006 04:47 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow Chrissy! Dang girl you know alot... good for me! I love Noel Tyl's site. I can spend hours reading over there though I do not post. I can relate to that Venus 5th house thing--also have Venus Trine Saturn (sigh so cautious). I am very shy about outsiders and love. I really really have to know and trust otherwise I am horribly horridly tongued tied.

So according to you and Tyl:

mars=venus: passion, impulsive sexual drive, excitement.

So guess what? Venus Rules my 5th and my 6th house and 22 degrees is right on the cusp!!!! LOL. Unbelievable. Love, romance and health... Well my willpower will be sorely tested I am sure. Sigh/smile. Outside of my family Doc is the only one I care for and trust (welcome to the 5/6 house cusp.)

So ... 6 months to a year ......argh, drool, grrrr, droool....


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chrissymgreen
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posted June 13, 2006 05:10 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
dear lg,

im glad i could help!

i have more for you -- coming up REAL soon, i see that tr venus will hit 22 taurus...around the 18th of june i think. youll have to keep me abreast of anything important happening then! see, that would be a trigger...venus contacting your natal venus (youll obviously be having a VR around then, natch) when natal venus is also being contacted my SA mars is a prime example of a potential trigger. of course, this contact doesnt last too long so its influence is passing, but it still might trigger something interesting.

i also noticed neptune is approaching a square w/ your natal venus, this is something to look for too -- long term aspects to color the arcs. now neptune is a little out of orb (right now it's actually on my natal venus at 18 aqua) but look for late feb 07 -- thats when this mars=venus arc will be winding down (6 months past its perfection in aug 06), and around that time neptune will be at 20 ish aqua. that will be an interesting time for you...lots of spiritual energy to access w/ that transit, coloring the arc.

i also saw that tr saturn will be hitting 22 leo within the time frame of your ma=ve arc, let's see, that will happen round october of this year -- this should also be a very interesting time.

i agree w/ astroleolady too, the progressed moon is a very important trigger. very important. i would look to see the months when the prog moon is making any hard aspect like a conj, opp, squ, inconj to any other prog planet...or if it contacts an angle. these times will be busy times, and events in keeping with the arc could occur. esp if say prog moon was contacting prog venus. dont be fooled into thinking the hard aspects are bad -- im learning they usually indicate PHYSICAL outward events in a progressed chart!

anyways id love to write more here but im so pressed for time...ill checkie back laters.


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chrissymgreen
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posted June 13, 2006 05:18 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oohh -- remember, the 6th house is more than health -- it's the house where we attain competence, the house of reckoning...it's the house where we gather all the creative things we have to offer (5th) and make them usable/ready/perfect to share with our significant others/others in relationship.

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LILYGIRL
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posted June 13, 2006 05:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Chrissy. I am going to print out your notes and read them tonight after I feed the children and get them down. But this is beyon weird I usually only see Doc 4 times a year but I will have to see him three times between June 15-22 for special shots tests etc. SO that is encompassed by the 18th and ues, I did see that Transiting Venus will be on my Natal venus during that time...

My progressed moon I think is in the 1st house--Sag--. I will have to look later when I get a moment to myself. (Yes its at 20 Sag my ascendant is 13)

Thanks again. It is very helpful and I do feel. It's very obvious to me and working out extra on the treadmill is not shooing it away.!

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Node
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posted June 13, 2006 07:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you soo much for starting this thread! I have answers now to some of the life issues I have been going thru...ailing mother, quiting my job, passion for an unresponsive 'Prince of Tides' and moving. Stress is my Oyster right now. Working with Progressed charts and Transits with more than a dash of Karma

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astroleolady
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posted June 14, 2006 04:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for astroleolady     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lilygirl... you're welcome.

Crissymgreen - thanks for the valuable info on SA!

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