posted June 14, 2006 11:09 PM            

Welcome to the forum.....

Here's a link with links to just about anything you would like to study:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/006272.html

Don't mind paras, his Scales must be dipping and dancing tonite Or possibly he's suffering LL-Elders-Syndrome, the symptoms of which are muttering "if I see one more newbie posting and wanting all the answers on a silver platter without any effort I'm going to scream!"

Let us know what you find out about your Venus rx and how it aspects the rest of your chart, OK?

posted June 14, 2006 11:18 PM              

I've read so many posts on here, and it seemed like you guys were so willing to be helpful and share your knowledge.

posted June 15, 2006 02:09 AM              

A retrograde planet is a planet with its energy turned inward. In the case of Venus (physical, also desires/relationships) the retrograde energy can create an uneasiness in the person in making relationships or cause them to "bottle up" their desires inside. Over time, from intense focusingn on the retrograde energy, the person learns how to use their retrograde energies. So, later in life, it is common that the "inward" energies are STRONGLY directed outward by the person.

Retrogradingly,

posted June 15, 2006 02:39 AM              

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"WHATEVER the soul longs for, WILL be attained by the spirit"

"Love knows not its own depth until the hour of separation"

posted June 15, 2006 03:35 AM            

I’m not a Venus retro. In fact, I have no retro planets, not a single one… But, as someone who has loved a Venus retro man (with other four retro planets too…) for many years, I think I can add my two pence to the subject…

For the people who love a Venus retro it is a very tough trial. It’s never enough. They isolate themselves from the world and lock you out. It’s so frustrating and painful. Believing that they love you is most of time a blind act of faith. They can make you feel so unloved, so worthless, so neglected. They only look inwards as if they were the only ones suffering. I suppose they don’t trust your love because they don’t understand how someone like you can love them if not even themselves can do it.

You get to feel so powerless and at some point you leave with a broken heart unable to bear that cold detachment for longer. You are the only part in the relationship that pushes forward, that takes the trouble in doing things and showing affection. It’s not fair on anyone that comes to offer you something to be mistrusted and rejected frontally, treated like an emotional “criminal”, quarantined and then expected to prove their innocence with a test after another… With no reward or encouragement…

Sometimes I think they only do it to push you away, because they know better, and they believe you deserve someone more worthy. They don’t believe themselves worthy. They fear that one day you will discover it and abandon them. So they don’t let you in. They justify themselves thinking that they are doing you a favour. When what they are really doing is making you pieces.

posted June 15, 2006 03:41 AM              

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"WHATEVER the soul longs for, WILL be attained by the spirit"

"Love knows not its own depth until the hour of separation"

posted June 15, 2006 05:18 AM              

Venus in retro in whatever sign can be a tough nut to crack not only for those who live with the placement but for those who try to love them. But love really is the answer... it can move mountains

posted June 15, 2006 09:09 AM            

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They can make you feel so unloved, so worthless, so neglected.

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They only look inwards as if they were the only ones suffering.

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I suppose they don’t trust your love because they don’t understand how someone like you can love them if not even themselves can do it.

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I'd say this is accurate. It's hard for me to trust. And I mean, you could have all the confidence in the world but still underneath that it's like you have to constantly be reassured that your worth something or someone...because it's hard to believe on it's own. And you constantly re-evaluate over and over whether or not you deserve something or your worth something or that youre good enough to do something. Gets quite annoying actually...

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You are the only part in the relationship that pushes forward, that takes the trouble in doing things and showing affection.

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Once again...we try...it just .."backfires" I guess you could say. For a better example, think of it this way. You're in a building and you need to find a way out of it. While reading a map, Venus direct decides to take path that's ahead and leads to the front door. Venus retro notices there's an few hallways they passed on the way in, so it figures that if it backtracks then they won't "get lost", or confused trying to follow a path they don't recognize. Ultimately you'll reach the same destination which is the front door, however Venus in retro just prefers to get there by going through what they know and have learned, experience, and trust rather than taking a risk on something new and un-trodden (if that's a word) just to reach the easiest solution.

posted June 15, 2006 11:51 AM            

I don’t know why he doesn’t trust me. I keep showing I care but all I get is silence. No reaction. He makes my foundations tremble. Why do I have to prove I care for him 1000 times when I do not receive? I may have got to the point where I leave. This is shattering me. No matter what I sense, there is no fact to back it up… I may be imagining it all; he may not even like me for the looks of it.

Alanabelle, I found your example very interesting… I suppose for a direct person it’s very tough to understand why you would want to go backwards in a burning and dangerous place when you will most likely get lost or you may get the exits blocked (because things change, they don’t get frozen in time so you can’t always go back) when the map clearly shows the front door is just a few meters away, right in front of you.

I told him once it’s OK not wanting to take unnecessary risks. But you need to take some. You don’t bet 100%, you just bet 50%. OK, you play safe… But you need to play in order to win!!! Fear of losing only keeps you losing… Losing all those wonderful things that you haven’t tried yet.

A friend of mine is also Venus Rx. Every time we go to a restaurant, she insists in ordering the same stuff we have tried before. I have to push her hard to let me have a new dish. We get to the compromise of ordering a half of “safe” known dishes and the other half of new stuff I pick. Most of the times she loves what I order, even more that she likes the already known stuff… So why will she be reticent next time????? I really struggle with this… Where is the spice of life if you keep repeating things once and again?

Are you really so terrified of new stuff? Of risking? What is so terrible about trying, about giving people a chance? Of course they can abandon you; you could lose that person… But can’t you see that if you don’t give you already lost?

I’m very curious, Alanabelle… Maybe I’m not seeing his signs of love… You said:

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Just because it's not showering over you doesn't mean it isn't there. I give so much that I literally burn myself out because for some reason it's like no matter how much love and affection and care I exude, it's never enough to OTHERS. I personally, just don't get it..

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Can you explain that better? How do you show love? I may be overlooking something.

posted June 16, 2006 11:21 AM              

Steelrose, you really shed alot of light for me. Your description explains so much and now, I feel like I understand myself better. Even though I don't think I 'test' my relationships quite as severly, I do test people just the same. Very interesting.

I wonder how 2 people with Venus RX get along? lol

posted June 16, 2006 01:58 PM            

from: http://artcharts.com/aspects/chiron/retrograde.html

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Chiron Retrograde. While Chiron is Direct, the objective is to reach out to heal ourselves, those around us, and the planet. During retrograde Chiron we will be magnetizing and attracting to us the healing and guidance we need. We will seek to learn new ways to go inside and heal the deepest darkest parts of ourselves that need our attention and acceptance so that they can begin to transform into usable energy. Find a sanctuary and get busy.

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