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Topic: Can love just die?
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BlueEyes24 unregistered
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posted July 02, 2006 03:15 PM
I have been thinking a lot about this lately, as someone close to me just broke up with her boyfriend of 10 years. They seemed like a happy couple to me and others, but when I talked to her, she said that they should have broken up earlier and they just weren't happy anymore. They felt like they were more like friends who just lived together.Has anyone else had an experience like this? Do you think that love really does fade over time, or there are a number of factors that cause that person, or both people, to lose feelings for each other over time? I am a hopeless romantic (neptune conjunct ascendant, venus sextile neptune ), and it breaks my heart to think that someone you were once so in love with, could slowly become not so important in your life anymore. I guess my question is, can two people, at a point, just STOP loving each other? Why do you think it happens? Do you think TRUE LOVE can really last forever? Sorry for so many questions. IP: Logged |
lotusheartone unregistered
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posted July 02, 2006 04:00 PM
I believe this can happen and did to me and my X husband in the mid 90's 7 soul pieces make you whole..and Our Oversoul..steers them together.. moving from different body temples.. and from Heaven and back here to hell..hehe on Earth..one day he just changed..and so did I.. we began living separate lives..something was missing..we divorced in 98.. and this is when I truly began my search for me and my twin.. praying and calling my soul pieces back true LOve forever..is two who are whole 7 for him..7 for me 14 MOvement and challenge from separation..SunSet! LOve and Light to ALL. ... IP: Logged |
sthenri unregistered
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posted July 02, 2006 04:22 PM
Yes but it's not the same kind of romantic love, there are many different types of love so don't worry they won't ALL die.There are always ways to love and if you are a romantic pursue another avenue because your life feeds of loving another. There are also passions in life to chase, that can give you a better perception on love and life and show you more ways to love. Sports, or arts, or traveling in between love affairs. Most people aren't that passionate, you'll find out in life, it's like they are not all there, don't worry though there are enough romantics! Air men I find are particularly bad at keeping an attachment alive, or at least it's only 20% him. Water men are very passionate and attached and can at least encourage you. Natasha
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ScorpioRising unregistered
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posted July 02, 2006 04:27 PM
Have faith! = ) Love does exist. In VERY different forms. Two people have to grow together-or they grow apart and move away. I believe in love, and in loving whole heartedly! The world is not as we see it or believe it to be-it is not static. The love we give someone-touches everyone. It changes the world's vibrations-so how could it be false? IP: Logged |
lotusheartone unregistered
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posted July 02, 2006 04:29 PM
ScorpioRising..I liked what you wrote!IP: Logged |
GeminiLover75 unregistered
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posted July 02, 2006 04:30 PM
It happened to me after five years, and though I still care about that person I just couldn't be with them as part of a couple anymore. It devastated him and that's what broke my heart (moreso than the break-up itself). He's still very much a part of me as a friend, but sadly I could never go back to what we were. I was simply too trapped and depressed in what for me had become a dead situation... given that he loved me so much I still feel like a horrible person for thinking in this way, but it was time for me to fly free (combine my Sag ascendant and Venus in Gemini with my Saturn return and there you have it)... I thought we would be together forever, so it changed my whole life to realise that we wouldn't be. It's now that I'm realising what is meant by the soul pieces, and I believe it is so true... IP: Logged |
lotusheartone unregistered
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posted July 02, 2006 04:34 PM
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Alisa unregistered
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posted July 02, 2006 05:55 PM
quote: They felt like they were more like friends who just lived together.
I know how they feel exactly. I stayed with my Ex for ten years. From the 10 score point, I started 10 years ago with 10. Then it is something like this 10,9,8,7,6,7,6,7,6,7,6,4,3,2,1,0 When it ended at 0, it did not mean that I do not have love anymore. I have love but love change its type to friendship. That's it. I think to have not only long-term, but long-lasting one, you have to start with, first and foremost, someone you are COMPATABLE with. So, you do not have to change much when you are together. Secondly, someone you can talk openly after flight. Most of the couples that just hug each other after fight without discussing the root cause of the fight have very high chance to break up one day. If not, one of them have to "tolerate and tolerate”. Third, do not trust the first-year love. Your physical body would create a hormone to make you crazy about the guy for 3 months to 12 months. When this hormone is gone from your body, you probably are not crazy anymore if you are not actually crazy by your heart. This is the research I read and I think it is true. I still believe in true love. I have Venus trine Neptune too And I think I found one. Although we cannot be together, I will love him anyway.
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lotusheartone unregistered
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posted July 02, 2006 06:01 PM
You must master yourSelf..if you want completion. .no grey areas..no excuses..know thySelf..and GOD. ... IP: Logged |
BlueEyes24 unregistered
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posted July 02, 2006 06:46 PM
Hi Alisa, I agree with you about "first-year love". People sometimes THINK they are in love, when they're not even past the "honeymoon stage" yet.The person I was talking about in my post, they were each other's first loves. They started going out when they were 15 and they are now both 25.. so, in a way, I think it really is going to be the best for both of them. IP: Logged |
Node Knowflake Posts: 1123 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 02, 2006 08:43 PM
You have to make deposits in the love bank. People who enter a relationship rarely discuss...before making it legal, just what their needs are. Am I primarily looking for security? Attendance to my emotional needs? All these factors must be weighed, and a dialog must continue for the relationship to survive. If you don't share the same direction or support each other, tend to your partners needs....making deposits...you will falter; and no matter how much you love each other, love will fade, wither, and become//// something else.IP: Logged |
astro junkie unregistered
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posted July 13, 2006 09:50 PM
BlueEyes24 -Surprised I'd answer to this? You should be cuz I'm the LAST person to know ... it's like "ahhh ... love ... it must be nice" But sometimes I wonder if we love others in ways which are not overtly romantic. The love SHOULD always be there, and NOT die. Platonic love is just as powerful, and the perfect avenue for long-distance relationships. I've HEARD that good marriages are a series of falling IN and falling OUT of love. Then they fall back IN, then back OUT. Like a circle. That's an exciting prospect, as it will help prove if you're with the right person, plus makes it more exciting, falling in love over and over ... Time doesn't exist. ------------------ ... it's better to light a candle than curse the darkness IP: Logged |
Full-fifthhouse-loulou unregistered
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posted July 15, 2006 04:32 AM
Love that dies was never love. Love that dies you never had. So never regret the near-loves that come and go. They are part of learning. You love many or few.....they are all lessons. True love (and I don't nesessarily think we only have one) never dies. We may lose the person (life isn't perfect after all) but true love never dies.Only my thoughts ------------------ SCORPIO SUN 5TH HOUSE ASCENDANT CANCER CANCER MOON 12TH HOUSE IP: Logged |
ErickaF unregistered
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posted July 31, 2007 10:17 AM
Hey this is depressing...what love just fades away for everyone! I hope I stay in love forever...never fall out of love. My aunt is probably the only person I know that stayed in love and still is with her partner of 12 years! She said she never fell out of love. They have been married only five years, together 12, I hope my hubby always gives my butterflies in my stomach (okay I have venus-conjunct neptune, it can be quiet annoying sometimes, lol.).IP: Logged |
Diandra23 unregistered
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posted July 31, 2007 12:20 PM
I do believ that True Love never dies and im a hopeless romantic as well I think that as some others,theres lessons to learn with people,and when the lessons are learned,then,naturally they go into their own lifepath - but never forget each other. We can have many SM but in our life there will be the one which is the better for each other - therefore,while we dont find him/her, we can be with other SM and grow what we have to , so that when we find the One for us,we are more evolved and spiritually advanced enough to face up all the challenges and embrace the mot evolved and Real Love IP: Logged |
Duality unregistered
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posted July 31, 2007 05:12 PM
YES. I think love can die even when it's true love. Sometimes it takes a short time for it to die, sometimes years but it can totally and completely die.For me it died because the guy didn't love me but I loved him. He used me and broke my heart to pieces. quote: Love that dies was never love. Love that dies you never had.
I totally disagree with that. I know I felt true love even looking back after many years. It's really getting into philosophical terms what "true love" is and if it has to be great love on both sides to count or how long does it have to last to be considered "true" and so on. I think people, esp romantic ones have a mistaken notion about love. I think love isn't an endless pit that doesn't depend on anything. It's BS to say that. People can kill love the same way they kill everything else. Also, just because someone ends up being wrong for you and just because you acknowledge it (like I did even a few months after it ended) doesn't mean it wasn't "true love". Although I realized all that shortly after it ended, it took me years to really get over it and I have to say I haven't felt the same since towards anyone (I'm talking about now, 15 years after it ended). This saying reminds of the test they used to do in the middle ages and in new england to test "witches". They would throw them in the water and the reasoning was that if they managed to survive, they had to be witches and used their powers. If they didn''t, they were obviously innocent.
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AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 4416 From: Pleasanton, CA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 31, 2007 05:24 PM
I'm pretty sure I once heard that the cells in your body regenerate over a period of about 7 years, so you're an entire new person in this time. I've also read astrologically that certain planets rule your life for 7 years a piece. I'd say that the way we evolve it shouldn't be a surprise that people should fall out of love as needs and priorities change and shift. IP: Logged |
SattvicMoon unregistered
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posted July 31, 2007 05:28 PM
We only see what we want to see, we only hear what we want to hear.Open up, listen to the universe, and the answer is obviously clear. So....... how does it relate to the subject at discussion? I believe there are various reasons as why love can cease to exist. Mostly because of unwarranted expectations, lack of proper understanding...... what survives, what remains is unconditional love. The conditions - they change and enslave us.
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Dulce Luna Newflake Posts: 7 From: The Asylum, NC Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 31, 2007 06:10 PM
Just my opinion: I don't believe true love ever dies.....otherwise it wasn't true love. You can fall in and out of love (the romantic kind), but you don't stop loving the person if its true. Remember people: Its a state of mind, not a feeling.IP: Logged |
SattvicMoon unregistered
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posted July 31, 2007 08:31 PM
Dulce, yes you hit it right on! That is what my point was.------------------ Welcome to my Home Page! IP: Logged |
ErickaF unregistered
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posted July 31, 2007 11:44 PM
AcousticGod: okay I have heard that too...sometimes people after seven years the love grows stronger or simply want something else. Loads of couple break up about that time (7 years). And I still don't know if true love dies. I've seen so many couples stay together for reasons besides love, that I hope I never fall out of love. And it makes me want to stay for love. IP: Logged |
Astra Knowflake Posts: 243 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 01, 2007 12:57 AM
Yes, love can fade away with time because as people get older they change as well and these changes can either increase the love and attraction between people or it can separate them.One of my mom's friends was madly in love in with his wife when they were newlyweds, but after ten 20 years, the love just died. He didn't treat her right and took her for granted. Anyway, this drove his wife into severe depression and she started to drink heavily. Unfortunately, she drank herself to death. Since that moment, my mom's friend has been in tears. He said that he wished he had treated her with kindness and cherished her while he still could. He didn't realize how much he really loved her until it was too late. IP: Logged |
jane Knowflake Posts: 1277 From: Registered: Jul 2009
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posted August 01, 2007 01:47 AM
I don't think true love dies, but it can change form. A romantic, erotic love can turn into a platonic, friendship love. A friendship love isn't less than erotic love. They're both beautiful things and love in all forms is such a gift in our lives. But if love does make that transformation, it hurts the two people to pretend that it hasn't. I used to be really terrified of love ending. That expression "It's better to have loved and lost than to have never loved at all" seemed like such bs to me. But I no longer feel that way. Yes, the idea that love can "end" brings insecurity and anxiety, but I think the realization that everything lives in its moment and there really are no guarantees also brings a much deeper appreciation of the moment. I think we can love our deepest when we don't take it for granted, and knowing that love is vulnerable to time gives us that necessary push to really value what we have when we have it. Get it while it's hot. But like I said, I don't think true love ends. It just changes. I've been in love 3 times in my life. I'm with the third one right now, but I definitely do still love the other two. But it's not the kind of love where I need to share my life with them. I love them deeply though. I wish all the best for them and would be there for them if they ever needed me. It's more of an unconditional love, the kind we should probably feel for all people, not just those we once shared a romantic love with. But I also definitely believe it's possible for an erotic love to last a lifetime. There will naturally be blocks of time when the feeling of being "in love" is less, but as long as the two people continue rediscovering and falling in love with one another, the love can last. IP: Logged |
sinderlou unregistered
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posted August 01, 2007 09:07 AM
Full fifth house Lou Lou.........What you wrote really struck me. I hope you don't mind that i wrote a little something with your words True Love Love that dies Was never love Love that dies You never had Remember The near-loves That came And went Whether Several or few They were all To teach Loves lessons To you But to learn True love Realize That when Its True It will never die IP: Logged |
Ann7 Knowflake Posts: 28 From: united states Registered: May 2009
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posted August 03, 2007 08:15 AM
ScorpioRising, I completely agree. Well put!IP: Logged | |