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Topic: THE SECRET OF 5° OF EACH ZODIAC SIGN
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Nadalie
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posted July 16, 2006 07:39 PM
 
During my research work on the Zodiac degrees I noticed that 5° of each Zodiac sign was the most erotic degree. The astrological chart that oriented me to that finding belongs to the legendary actress, sex symbol, Marilyn Monroe.
Using my discovery of the Zodiac degrees, I have been occupied, from time to time, with the rectification of astrological charts of the famous persons. I rejected immediately the astrological chart of Marilyn Monroe (1 June 1926, 118W14, 34N03, 9:30 AM, PST+8) with the Ascendant at 13° of Leo sign and the cusp of the 10th house at 6° of Taurus as incorrect. Why?
By that official time (9:30 AM) the Ascendant was at 13° of Leo sign, having all the features of Aries sign, symbolizing the fighting spirit, not giving oneself up to fate, and in Leo sign (life), struggle (13° - Aries – struggle) for life (Leo). However, Marilyn Monroe behaved quite contrary to that: she used to sleep for a long time, she began her day by drinking alcohol (champagne), she experienced psychic problems, i.e. emotional dejections, and she often went to psychiatrists… Besides, her grandmother was mad and tried to strangle Marilyn when she was a little child. One can say, normally, that is correct, because Marilyn has got Neptune in her 1st house. However, during my practice, I used to meet many people with Neptune in the first house, who were neither alcoholics nor drug addicts, religious fanatics and who were not visiting psychiatrists… So, in order to see all that in her horoscope, there must be yet another indicator which points out to her problems with alcohol and her psyche…
It was sufficient to sketch out a chart for 9 hours and 29 minutes to get the following picture: the Ascendant occurred at 12° of Leo sign, and just that degree bears the symbolic of the 12th Pisces sign, what along with Neptune in the first house has got much stronger effect on her life style: the grandmother who was mad (the Ascendant – the grandmother - 12° - Pisces – madness), tried to strangle her (12° - Pisces – to strangle). If the 12th house is the house of a dream, sleeping, then the cusp of the 12th house indicates the beginning of sleeping, when we are falling asleep, and the cusp of the 1st house describes waking up, getting into a new day. As she was beginning her day with alcohol, the cusp of the 1st house (action, reaction, the first step, what we do first), must begin at 12° (Pisces – Neptune – alcohol), and not at 13° (struggle, activity, labor, diligence …). The Ascendant at 12° also indicates the psychic problems and visiting a psychiatrist…
By shifting the Ascendant from 13° to 12° the cusps of all the other houses are shifted, and so we reach the cusp of the 10th house at 5° of Taurus sign.
The tenth house describes one’s greatest success, by something one will be remembered (and not the 4th house, as it is written in some books), and as Marilyn Monroe was considered the most erotic woman of the 20th century, I began to conduct research on 5° of any sign. I started from a hypothesis that, although Marilyn had Lilit at the very Ascendant (unrestrained eros, charm), Mars in the 8th house, the ruler of the 8th house in the 1st house, Venus, trine, Neptune, it must be something what has to add to the title of the most erotic woman of the planet Earth in the 20th century – and that is the cusp of the 10th house at 5° of Taurus sign.
Let’s have a look at who else of the erotic symbols and myths has got the active 5° of any sign.
Jane Mansfield (19 April 1933, 9:11 AM, EST+5, 75W20, 40N04), the actress supposed to replace Marilyn Monroe, as a sex symbol, has got the Ascendant at 5° of Cancer sign. Cancer rules over the breast, and therefore, her “ace-card” was her breast…
The magnificent Marlene Dietrich (27 December 1901, 21:15, CET-1, 13E22, 52N28) whose appearance in the film “The Blue Angel” also provoked sighs of the male audience all over the world, has got the Sun at 5° of Capricorn sign.
The platinum blond beauty Jean Harlow (3 March 1911, 19:40, CST+6, 94W34, 39N05), who was also a sex symbol, has got Venus, the ruler of the Ascendant, at 5° of Aries sign.
Mata Hari (7 August 1876, 13:00, LMT, 05E46, 53N12), has got Neptune (charm, espionage) in her 6th house (job, clothes) at 5° of Taurus sign. Her name has been recorded in history as a synonym of espionage and charm. She wrote to her friend in despair: “My husband doesn’t buy me new dresses, out of fear I’ll be too pretty …”. One can, for sure, see the effect of Neptune at 5° (the most erotic) in her 6th house (clothes). With Neptune (dance) in the 6th house she became a dancer of the exotic dances (the Moon in Pisces sign). The reaction of the audience was such that her dance show with striptease ended “with frenetic applause, the audience simply got crazy of excitement…”
Tracy Lords (7 May 1968, 17:19, EDT+4, 80W38, 40N22), the famous star of porno movies, in the mid 80-ies, whose appearance drastically increased watching of porno movies, has got Venus, the ruler of the Ascendant, but also of the 8th house (sex), at 5° of Taurus sign. The magnificent Greta Garbo (18 September 1905, 19:31, CET-1, 18E03, 59N20), the famous star of the silent film, whose appearance on the large screen of any cinema used to provoke loud sighs of the male audience – had got the Ascendant (appearance, image) at 5° of Gemini sign.
Dorothy Stratten (28 February 1960, 22:58, PST+8, 123W07, 49N16), famous for her photos on double-fold page of the “Playboy” magazine, was pronounced the most sex appeal woman whose photos have ever appeared in this magazine, has got the Ascendant at 5° of Scorpio sign, as well as the Lilit at 5° of Cancer sign.
Sophia Loren (20 September 1934, 14:10, CET-1, 12E29, 41N54), has got the Ascendant at 5° of Capricorn sign, and as she was getting older, she was becoming more attractive, to be, in her late 40-ies, proclaimed one of the most beautiful women of the world.
Farrah Fawcett (2 February 1947, 15:10, CST+6, 97W23, 27N48), the famous pin-up beauty of the 80-ies whose posters used to be sold like “hot cakes”, has got the Ascendant at 5° of Cancer sign. One will ask: … “And what about men”? The story is absolutely the same, that degree also has an effect on men.
Sean Connery (25 August 1930, 18:04, GMD-1, 03W13, 55N57), the man all the women of this planet sigh for, has got the Ascendant at 5° of Capricorn sign, and Saturn, the ruler of the Ascendant as well, at the same degree (5° of Capricorn). There is no wonder the women say for him “… he is more handsome and more desirable as he is getting older…”.
Mick Jagger (26 July 1943, 4:35 AM, GMT, 00E12, 51N27), the famous rock star, but also the sex symbol, has got the Ascendant at 5° of Leo sign.
Pablo Picasso (25 October 1881, 23:15, LMT+00, Malaga, 04W25, 36N43), was a great painter, but also a great admirer of women. His Ascendant at 5° of Leo sign tells us why the women liked him so much.
And how does this degree manifest itself in horoscopes of the common people, who are neither movie nor other stars? On one of these days, a pretty woman who has got Venus in the 6th house at 5° of Taurus sign paid me a visit. She said: “All the girls, my colleagues I work with, are pretty, but all the men start flirting with me wherever I appear…”.
A client of mine (23 May 1964, 18:20, CET-1, 20E30, 44N50), has got the cusp of the 6th house (at work, work uniform, colleagues from her work place) at 5° of Taurus sign. She said: “Since the moment I found a job (the cusp of the 6th house – work) in the YAT, checking air tickets, all the men behaved like being crazy about me. Many passengers were courting me. I have even experienced that a group of Arabs sang me a love song of theirs… Everybody tells me I look very sexy (the cusp of the 6th house – work uniform, at 5° of Taurus sign) in the uniform (the cusp of the 6th house …)”.
Well, we can say without hesitation that 5° of any sign signifies the most erotic persons living on this planet. IP: Logged |
aquaspryt69
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posted July 16, 2006 08:36 PM
How interesting. I'd never heard of this before. So, if I'm reading this correctly, it can be any planet or cusp just as long as it's at the 5 degree mark?
Are there any other degrees that would "mark" a person?
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sunshine9
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posted July 16, 2006 08:56 PM
This is amazing stuff!! Was this your thesis work, Nadalie?I have my MOon (ruler of my 8th house) at 5 degrees of Capricorn in my Ascendant! I wonder how this is interpreted? Does it make a difference what planet is at that 5th degree? How about the house cusp? i.e. if a person were to have some planet at the 5th degree of the 6th house, say, would they have a certain serious-type appeal, whereas someone with that planet at the 5th degree of the 8th house might be more sensual?? Let me see if I understand that part about the other degrees - do the first 12 degrees correspond to the 12 zodiac signs? This is really interesting - did you publish it anywhere? *Curiosity piqued* 
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SecretGardenAgain
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posted July 16, 2006 09:03 PM
Hey Nadalie thanks for the interesting info. I was wondering what you would make of this? (my chart placements): Asc 5 libra (venus in the seventh house in aries)
3rd house begins 5 deg sag (I have Gemini sun/merc/mars)
8th house 5 deg Taurus (scorp moon, Saturn and Pluto makes my eighth house imp)
Merc at 5 deg Gemini I am wanting to work in government economics or as am ambassador; I have a prominent ninth house (Gemini sun and other placements) and also a prominent Venus (libra rising venus in seventh)? Love
SG
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Nadalie
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posted July 16, 2006 09:12 PM
Oh. I'm sorry!
I made it look like I have done the "THEORY ON THE DEGREES".
I copied this text from one Serbian astrology site.
Theory on degrees is found by Nikola Stojanovich, and I will post soon the whole theory.
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Yang
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posted July 16, 2006 09:14 PM
Damn, I don't have any 5 degrees in my chart-the closest I have is 4 and 6 degress
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BlueEyes24
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posted July 16, 2006 09:38 PM
Ooohhh, cool.. I have my asc in Sag exactly 5 degrees  IP: Logged |
nove731
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posted July 16, 2006 09:57 PM
I have my Moon at 5 degrees Sagittarius.  IP: Logged |
mars446
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posted July 16, 2006 10:46 PM
I was just wondering...has he made any research on people who are faithful? Like people who have given time to religion, what was the "degree", just as 5 degrees was for beauty?IP: Logged |
carlfloydfan
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posted July 16, 2006 11:12 PM
2nd house pisces at 5 degrees and 8th house virgo at 5 degress.IP: Logged |
DayDreamer
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posted July 16, 2006 11:18 PM
Ahh I dont have anything at 5 deg either, and my cusps arent accurate because my birthtime isnt exactly accurate either.Have anything on 11 degrees? That's where my sun is at. IP: Logged |
ScorpioRising
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posted July 17, 2006 12:07 AM
Sun in Taurus-5 degrees.hahaha-does this count? I have scorpio rising and ummm yes...I am a bunny! = ) IP: Logged |
AcousticGod
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posted July 17, 2006 12:23 AM
Capricorn Sun at 5th degree like Marlene Dietrich. Mine's in the 8th house as well.I always thought it was just the Mars in Scorpio, and Pluto Trine Ascendant. IP: Logged |
AcousticGod
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posted July 17, 2006 12:27 AM
Is zero degrees considered Pisces?IP: Logged |
GeminiLover75
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posted July 17, 2006 01:03 AM
Sorry for the silly question, but when we talk about degrees do we mean the longitude?If so, my sun is 5 degrees Taurus, in the fifth house. ?? What would this mean? IP: Logged |
Arnicka
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posted July 17, 2006 01:42 AM
o this is funny.. i have Mercury @ 5 deg and have been told about my sexy voice cheers Nadalie! IP: Logged |
pisces_girl
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posted July 17, 2006 01:47 AM
Yay! have Neptune 5 degrees in Capricorn 
Interesting topic Nadalie!IP: Logged |
Lousianagrl
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posted July 17, 2006 03:57 AM
oh I have ascendent in Pisces at 4 deg!!! Close enough??am I breathtaking, darling? *batts eyelashes* My mother has sun at 5 deg. Scorpio exactly conjuncting her Mars at 5 deg. Scorpio.
She was a model, with a perfect shape face, bright blue eyes, long dark brown hair and 5'8". Skinny with just the right curves. beautiful. Though definately not sexual. She hates sex. She told me that was the reason she only had one daughter...she just doesn't like it and is offended by it. I know, I can't figure it out either. As for guys, I was talking to a guy with Pisces sun and Libra Asc at 5 deg, and he was HOT! Holy sh*t, you do not even know. We broke up because he "needed someone to help him grow closer to God" (YEAH HE TOLD ME THIS) so I was like "by that statement I've realized that you and I would never in a million years work out anyway."
I actually said to him "Quit acting so Pisces." and he said "Don't talk about astrology again. It's not of God. And how am I acting Pisces?" "You're a spiritual dumba$$, that's how. Oh I'm sorry, was that too aquarius for you to handle?"
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Green Fairy
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posted July 17, 2006 04:28 AM
What if it's Moon (or Mars) 5 degrees Scorpio?IP: Logged |
HandsomeLibra
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posted July 17, 2006 04:31 AM
ok can what do these degs mean ?Planetary positions
planet sign degree house motion
Sun Libra 09°16'42 11 direct
Moon Pisces 19°50'58 04 direct
Mercury Libra 05°00'02 11 direct
Venus Libra 19°02'44 11/12 direct
Venus is technically near the end of house 11 and is interpreted in house 12.
Mars Aquarius 15°27'09 03 direct
Jupiter Sagittarius 03°17'05 01 direct
Saturn Gemini 06°20'59 07 retrograde
Uranus Libra 13°39'17 11 direct
Neptune Sagittarius 01°00'00 01 direct
Pluto Virgo 29°55'18 11 direct
True Node Aquarius 13°04'41 03 retrograde House positions (Placidus)
Ascendant Scorpio 14°21'56
2nd House Sagittarius 13°43'23
3rd House Capricorn 15°51'17
Imum Coeli Aquarius 19°39'49
5th House Pisces 22°04'22
6th House Aries 20°22'32
Descendant Taurus 14°21'56
8th House Gemini 13°43'23
9th House Cancer 15°51'17
Medium Coeli Leo 19°39'49
11th House Virgo 22°04'22
12th House Libra 20°22'32
Major aspects
Sun Conjunction Mercury 4°17
Sun Trine Mars 6°10
Sun Sextile Jupiter 6°00
Sun Trine Saturn 2°56
Sun Conjunction Uranus 4°23
Moon Quincunx Venus 0°48
Moon Trine Ascendant 5°29
Mercury Sextile Jupiter 1°43
Mercury Trine Saturn 1°21
Mercury Sextile Neptune 4°00
Mercury Conjunction Pluto 5°05
Venus Trine Mars 3°36
Venus Conjunction Uranus 5°23
Mars Trine Uranus 1°48
Mars Square Ascendant 1°05
Jupiter Opposition Saturn 3°04
Jupiter Conjunction Neptune 2°17
Jupiter Sextile Pluto 3°22
Saturn Opposition Neptune 5°21
Neptune Sextile Pluto 1°05 IP: Logged |
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posted July 17, 2006 04:46 AM
Venus: 5 deg Gemini
Uranus: 5 deg Libra I don't know whether there is any
connection but Venus rules my Sun(Taur)
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shirty
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posted July 17, 2006 06:52 AM
pisces_girl~I have the same placement for Neptune! 5 degrees Capricorn Just curious, what house is it in? Mine's in the 5th house! Interesting stuff.. ~shirty IP: Logged |
pisces_girl
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posted July 17, 2006 10:43 AM
that's cool shirty
Mine's in the 11th.
What are your other placements? if you don't mind me asking...IP: Logged |
shirty
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posted July 17, 2006 12:30 PM
Hey pisces_girl!Here are my placements.. Sun Sagittarius 23°46'32 05 direct
Moon Gemini 21°08'20 11 direct
Mercury Sagittarius 08°46'43 05 direct
Venus Scorpio 11°47'55 04 direct
Mars Pisces 13°39'28 08 direct
Jupiter Pisces 15°17'44 08 direct
Saturn Sagittarius 13°33'03 05 direct
Uranus Sagittarius 22°38'19 05 direct
Neptune Capricorn 05°05'07 05 direct
Pluto Scorpio 09°00'56 04 direct
True Node Aries 18°43'37 09 retrograde
House positions (Placidus)
Ascendant Leo 09°18'08
2nd House Leo 29°15'24
3rd House Virgo 24°01'32
Imum Coeli Libra 25°38'00
5th House Sagittarius 02°52'13
6th House Capricorn 09°00'11
Descendant Aquarius 09°18'08
8th House Aquarius 29°15'24
9th House Pisces 24°01'32
Medium Coeli Aries 25°38'00
11th House Gemini 02°52'13
12th House Cancer 09°00'11
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Gooberzlostlovefound
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posted July 17, 2006 02:19 PM
hey pisces_girl I also have Neptune 5 Degrees in Capricorn in the 11th house IP: Logged | |
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