posted July 21, 2006 01:01 PM              

It bears remembering that a certain percentage of your clients (or even you, yourself) do not really want a relationship. Many people have such afflicted 7th houses or 7th house rulers that, even as they obsess over having a relationship, their own resistance and fears will prevent one from ever getting truly started.

So your first step is to examine your client's chart for hir likely pattern of relationship.

Look at the whole chart, then examine the 7th house. Any planets in the first house are liable to make relationships difficult to sustain, because there is automatically more of a focus on the self, and not on the 'other'. A loaded seventh house is just as difficult, because it reflects someone who may be too reliant on the other, so that it is difficult to establish an equal give and take, or that the native is too willing to be in any relationship at all, or if the seventh house planets are badly afflicted, the native may not find anyone who lives up to hir standards.

So it's very necessary to assess at the outset what the likelihood is of your client's ability to establish a relationship. Afflicted 8th house planets can be equally problematic as well, because they'll indicate a disinclination to intimacy. The afflicted 8th houser might be prone to many short-lived, meaningless flings, but not psychologically willing to engage in an intimate, longterm relationship.

If you find these sorts of patterns in a client's chart, please refrain from blurting out, "Hah, you wish!". You don't know how much work your client has done in overcoming self-defeating patterns or fears. Instead, it is acceptable to tactfully enquire regarding the client's past relationships, their quality and length, or to gently mention that *in the past*, there may have been some difficulty regarding the issues the chart patterns indicate. Please be non-specific; it is for the client to broach the specifics first, not you. Remember that someone vulnerable has come to you for help. You mustn't open closed doors; the client must open them first, and then these personal matters can be discussed tactfully and gently on your part. It's a matter of respect, compassion, courtesy, and the building of trust.

Once the client's natal chart has been studied and you have a good grasp of hir patterns, likes, and dislikes, you can move on to the really fun stuff: the predictive part of the work. You'll need to ascertain that the given birth time is correct, first, by finding significant aspects from the Solar Arc MC and its calculated Ascendant to Secondary Progressed or natal planets and angles, and verifying that these time periods corresponded to major events in the client's life. If the 'hits' made by the Solar Arc Progressed MC and its calculated Ascendant *don't* match up to time periods of major life events, you will have to rectify the chart before you can begin your predictive work. Rectification of charts is a whole 'nother article. But for now, let's assume the client's given birth time is correct.

What you look for is exceedingly simple. You look for the aspects formed by the progressed planets and angles to either other progressed planets, or to natal planets and angles. Focus on aspects involving Venus, the MC and Ascendant, the seventh house ruler, and any seventh house planets. For example, a semi-sextile of p Sun to natal Venus can indicate the start of a new love. But it's the involvement of the *angles* that will show the major relationships. The progressed Descendant (calculated from Solar Arc Midheaven) aspecting *any* planet, can indicate a new relationship. Also, any progressed planet aspecting the natal Descendant can indicate a new relationship.

It's as simple as that. The p MC aspecting Descendant ruler, or Descendant, or 7th house planets, or Sun, Moon, or Venus, will also signal a probable new relationship.

If it is apparent to you that such an aspect will not occur for awhile (a few years), and your client is im- patient, it is time to do two things: 1) look at transits from the outer planets to the Sun, Moon, Venus, and 7th house planets (if any) and ruler, since these may indicate at least some 'relief' during the wait for the 'biggie', and; 2) look at the other things currently affecting your client's chart. It is more than possible that, when a client is obsessing over having a relationship when the time isn't yet ripe for one, that s/he is trying to escape other issues that are less pleasant and more pressing. These issues should be discussed if possible. For example, a client's parent may be ill or dying, or pressures at work might be becoming unbearable. These can be difficult issues that a client would wish to escape or evade. But if you can do it gently, try to get your client to open up about such other issues. Being able to talk about these 'masked' problems can do hir a world of good, especially when you, as an astrologer, can help hir find the light at the end of the tunnel and, by virtue of your knowledge, assure hir that there is more to this life business than meets the eye.

All Rights Reserved; Gail Sandra Klein; March 21, 2001

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posted July 21, 2006 01:44 PM            

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Areas to Check: After the seven simple steps, a deeper analysis of the synastry can begin. All cross-aspects are examined and the house emphasis is noted. The following points and minor planets also illuminate the synastry reading.

Angles and Midpoints Suggesting Attraction and Bonding

Ascendant: Awakens, inspires, acknowledges socially. It can feel heavenly to have personal planets contact here!

Vertex Sudden turn of affairs, epiphany, instant attraction, immediate sense that something WILL happen together.

Lunar Nodes Familiar, bonded fascination, feeling of kinship or destiny, comfortable vs challenging as time progresses.

Fortuna Sense of joy, ease and creative pleasure. Life gets a little brighter when someone’s personal planet falls here.

Sun/Moon MP Activates a sense of inner balance, awakens wholeness and feelings of completion. Longing for union.

Venus/Mars MP Stimulate sexual energy in playful, mischievous ways. Creative, artistic, active, outgoing. No hiding this one.

Eros/Psyche MP Awakens desire to merge, sexual energy is intense, deep and emotive. Transformation whether taboo or not.

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posted July 21, 2006 01:47 PM            

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Look at the whole chart, then examine the 7th house. Any planets in the first house are liable to make relationships difficult to sustain, because there is automatically more of a focus on the self, and not on the 'other'. A loaded seventh house is just as difficult, because it reflects someone who may be too reliant on the other, so that it is difficult to establish an equal give and take, or that the native is too willing to be in any relationship at all, or if the seventh house planets are badly afflicted, the native may not find anyone who lives up to hir standards.

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posted July 22, 2006 07:35 AM            

Su/Mo - The inner marriage of yin & yang. At-oneness with self.

Su/MC - The perceived goal or object of life. Individuality. Father image.

Mo/MC - How one nurtures oneself and the world. Mother image.

ASC/MC - Expressing our image very powerfully in the world.

Su/ASC - Sense of self confidence and creativity.

Ve/Ma - Passion, sexual drive. Desire. "Carnal juices".

Su/Ma - Essence of masculinity. Action, aggressiveness. "Ideal man"

Mo/Ve - Essence of femininity. Devotion, tenderness, gentleness. "Ideal woman"

Ve/MC - "The Romantic Ideal." Very strong attraction.

Ve/Vx - Compulsive, powerful feelings of physical attraction.

Pl/Vx - A deeply transformative/destructive, obsessive encounter. Possible cruelty, or emotional manipulation. Karmic.

Node/Vx - Similar to the above, but without the manipulative element. A feeling of having known each other before. Inescapable associations. Fateful unions.

posted July 22, 2006 09:16 AM            

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Su/Ma - Essence of masculinity. Action, aggressiveness. "Ideal man"

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That makes alot of sense, because I just did mine and it falls under the taurus-scorpio axis. I seem to be attracted to both frequently.

posted July 22, 2006 12:05 PM            

I am - March 3 5:45-6am
He is - March 23 not sure

posted July 30, 2006 07:34 PM              

Is finding love so much more important than other life skills? What about finding a job, or caring for children or parents?

Why are there such elaborate systems for finding romance when even marriage does not depend on love or passion but companionship?

I object to analyzing too much in romance.

Love is an emotion, it's a hunger, it's a need that has to be filled at certain times, it has nothing to do with who you meet or any one aspect. Some of us need more approval than others and if we can't get it through the usual means we will express ourselves more strongly to attract more people.

That is why some people are attracted to acting or performing, they do not just have a stronger need, they choose to express themselves in this way. There are many different routes to self expression. How does examining the 7th house in a person explain their chosen route to self expression? And how can we talk about love without accepting different lifestyles and methods of falling and staying in love? The problem with examining astrology in this context is that it does examine the diversity and millions of ways in which our world expresses love.

The narrow minded love american style of dating is what people think about when they think of love and relationships. What I want to see is more examination of the relationships that actually occur and so we have to assume people are not virgins and ask about past relationships. Traditional astrologers refuse to ask because of the attitude towards purity.

Eliminate purity, concern over finding the perfect love, and you have a formula for what really works.

I find astrology readings are stunted because the person I am trying to read is so desperate to assume a posture of innocence about past romantic relationships.

Remembering this, Astrologers should take care not to predict the future without talking about the past because then he or she runs the risk of guessing past hurtful events, hurting the clients feelings, or offending his or her culture.

To avoid this kind of thing, it's best to start with the past and ask if certain events have already happened to lay them to rest.

It's thoughtless but damaging to jump to conclusions and say things like
You could be a victim of a stronger personality, take care of your identity in a relationship-IF the person getting the reading is just out of a divorce.

There is no prediction contest and nothing is objective, a person is not just a chart but a sum total of experiences at any age and these experiences should be taken into consideration before a reading is given.

People receiving readings are incredibly impressionable. I know one man who moved cross country after receiving a past life reading regarding a woman he had met. The reading told him that she knew him in a past life and he had overpowered her with his personality. He had to serve her in this life. Being a Libra rising, Cancer Moon, Venus in Pisces romantic Aqua Sun that he is, he believed everything literally.

Sure his personality was strong, strong on romance and trusting every romantic idea! I listened to his past relationships, and I encouraged him to give up on the woman as he needed to focus on his life. After one reading about love, he was willing to give up his job, home, and family. I'm glad I met him as he said I helped save hs life, but it was a scary reminder to me of the power of suggestion and I will not forget.

If you are receiving a reading imagine your astrologer is like your doctor, skilled and concerned with your physical and emotional health. For some reason, if you do not trust your astrologer to keep your confidence or care for you emotionally than find another.

Thank you for listening,
Natasha

posted August 05, 2006 09:03 PM              

Have you looked over the ol' time classic, "The Road Less Traveled" by M. Scott Peck? What do you think of his premise that love is an action?