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GeminiLover75
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posted July 24, 2006 06:49 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't understand why this person over-reacts emotionally... they are a Capricorn moon so shouldn't they be more stable? Also they are an Aries but it seems to be like their Aries nature isn't that strong, or seems to be watered down... is it to do with Pisces? Or the fact their Aries sun is square Saturn? Any clues here? (Sorry I don't know the birth time, so I don't have the houses)...

Because I don't know the birth time, I can't do a synastry or composite... They just get so emotional, so easily, that I don't know how to react.

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sthenri
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posted July 24, 2006 07:20 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You'd want to look at the moon, it's a singleton, also merc and venus in pisces and mars in aries points to passion and a strong memory. Grudges are not forgotten and the desire to be part of a movement is strong too.

Mars in aries alone would make him or her a bit grumpy and express what he or she is feeling, sort of a heart or not on the sleeve.

then add Pisces venus into the mix and grudges and resentments take hold unless you are a dear protective friend. Say something, give attitude and you are history.

This person is not so great with the business side of the world but can be a great parent.

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GeminiLover75
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posted July 24, 2006 07:33 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, that's so true... grudges and resentments absolutely! A lot of the time it seems to me that these resentments are imaginary, or this person builds up resentment from misperceptions... they get grudges about people they don't even really know (sometimes they get grudges against people because of hearsay/gossip), and I find it to be a bit weird...

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Lauren
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posted July 24, 2006 08:08 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm Aries/Cap/Pisces Mercury. I can be emotional but it takes a lot for me to get that way, because in general I revert to being optimistic at the end of the day, no matter what happens. The only person who has seen me very emotional is my mum, so most people wouldn’t see this side at all.. It’s not something I want to put out there.. that’s too much like raining on someone’s parade. Most people see me as bubbly (Gemini Asc). But I don't have the same Venus/Mars signs and I have a Sun/Saturn trine.. so that's a bit different.

A Capricorn Moon is in detriment, but a well placed Saturn.. or a Saturn supporting the Moon with a nice aspect like a trine or a sextile.. would go a long way in making a Cap Moon person more comfortable. This chart seems very difficult because Saturn is in opposition to the Moon.. I think this person has major authority issues and they probably had a harsh childhood. They probably feel emotionally threatened a lot by male figures primarily and try to fight back by pouting or sulking or shutting out in a moon-like way.. In oppositions I’ve read you tend to play out one of the planets and project the other.. With the Moon and Saturn opposition.. it’s likely the person is playing out their Moon while attracting authority.. Saturn-like figures in their life who are playing a dominant role and forcing them to take more responsibility.

My advice would be.. if you feel this person is holding a grudge or resentment towards YOU personally.. and you know that it's imaginary... then definitely have a chat to them and explain things clearly so the misunderstanding can get sorted. Pisces Mercury tends to listen.. when someone genuinely wants to patch things up.

If, however you think this is something they've done towards other people, so you think they are keeping grudges towards others due to misconceptions. I’d say don't get involved.. because unless you are one of the parties you wouldn't know for sure whether there was a reason for the resentment or not.. it’s probably best to leave well enough alone, in this case. If the Aries person keeps bringing these grudges up to you, you could tell them clearly that you don’t want to hear it.. and you’re not interested in gossip and hearsay. One problem with Pisces placements (or a prominent Neptune) is, you get so many vibes it almost drives you crazy.. If they’re avoiding a person, it’s most probably due to getting bad vibes, rather than what they’ve *heard* from other people. A lot of times people won’t see subtleties that Pisces *feels* straight away.. so you might think person X is perfectly fine with them.. when really they are not, and the Pisces placement picked up on this. But then again Pisces can also get delusional sometimes.. the intuition is accurate as long as it doesn’t go into paranoia (which I’ve seen happen).. always two sides to every story.

PS. When I first saw your thread topic.. I thought to myself hmm sounds like Mercury square Moon in synastry.. “trouble with emotional reactions”.. Are any of your natal placements squaring this person’s Moon?

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Arnicka
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posted July 24, 2006 08:10 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
cap moons can definitely be paranoid; stability comes from a feeling of achievement and respect-- not inherent [!] worked for

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Peri
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posted July 24, 2006 08:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mars (Aries) / Merc (Pisces)conjunction itself can be indicative of a tendency to overreact. Especially if Mars is in fire i.e. quick to get angry and Mercury is in water (thinking depends on moods and unconscious drives);
T-square (Sun, Moon, Saturn) with the focal point on Sun suggests depression/guilt-proneness which may be expressed through anger (Sun in Aries), Merc/Uranus square usually means that it is extremely difficult for the native to handle stressful situations which may result in nervous exhaustion.

In general, their chart looks quite good, their main problem is inner disharmony and dissatisfaction with their Self;

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Glaucus
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posted July 24, 2006 02:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

This is so easy to see.

He has Mercury and Venus in Pisces. Those indicate that he's very sensitive,emotional for Pisces is most sensitive,emotional sign. Mercury in Pisces indicates being extremely sensitive,receptive in communications...that can not only be compassionate and understanding but can also be easily hurt by what other's say too. With Mars conjunct that Mercury in Pisces, he can get very touchy.
The Mercury in Pisces conjunct Mars can also indicate that he could get angry easily from misunderstandings as well as imagined slights.


He also has Mercury conjunct Mars,and that can be a person with a short fuse,quick temper,argumentative,impatient,passionate,aggressive communicator.

Mars in Aries is very passionate and can be aggressive and impatient.


Because his time is unknown, there is no telling that his Moon is in Capricorn. His Moon could be in Aquarius which can indicate unpredictabe,erratic emotional nature. Remember even though Aquarius is a detached,objective sign...it's sign ruled by Uranus which is unpredictable,erratic. It can have quite the temper and be explosive in a sudden way. Very electric!

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Glaucus
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posted July 24, 2006 02:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

He also has Sun in Aries which is very passionate,and can be impatient and quicktempered

You can't just look at the moon for temperament and attitude.

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GeminiLover75
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posted July 26, 2006 05:42 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi there, thanks for all the helpful responses!

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This chart seems very difficult because Saturn is in opposition to the Moon.. I think this person has major authority issues and they probably had a harsh childhood. They probably feel emotionally threatened a lot by male figures primarily and try to fight back by pouting or sulking or shutting out in a moon-like way

Absolutely!!!

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If, however you think this is something they've done towards other people, so you think they are keeping grudges towards others due to misconceptions. I’d say don't get involved.. because unless you are one of the parties you wouldn't know for sure whether there was a reason for the resentment or not.. it’s probably best to leave well enough alone, in this case. If the Aries person keeps bringing these grudges up to you, you could tell them clearly that you don’t want to hear it.. and you’re not interested in gossip and hearsay.

Yeah, I've said I'm not interested in hearing it - but then that makes them sensitive! Sometimes it's been about people I like or am close to, and I just don't think it's nice.

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But then again Pisces can also get delusional sometimes.. the intuition is accurate as long as it doesn’t go into paranoia (which I’ve seen happen).. always two sides to every story.

So true. I share the thing about 'vibes' as I'm very intuitive myself with Neptune in the 12th house yet I sometimes get unsure of it because of my Scorpio moon paranoia - this person is also extremely paranoid, quite fearful of a lot of things.

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PS. When I first saw your thread topic.. I thought to myself hmm sounds like Mercury square Moon in synastry.. “trouble with emotional reactions”.. Are any of your natal placements squaring this person’s Moon?

I'm not sure about this, as I can't run a synastry without their birth time... I have Mercury in Taurus - would that make a bad aspect to a Capricorn moon?

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Mars (Aries) / Merc (Pisces)conjunction itself can be indicative of a tendency to overreact. Especially if Mars is in fire i.e. quick to get angry and Mercury is in water (thinking depends on moods and unconscious drives);
T-square (Sun, Moon, Saturn) with the focal point on Sun suggests depression/guilt-proneness which may be expressed through anger (Sun in Aries), Merc/Uranus square usually means that it is extremely difficult for the native to handle stressful situations which may result in nervous exhaustion.
In general, their chart looks quite good, their main problem is inner disharmony and dissatisfaction with their Self;

100% correct, Peri!!!

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He has Mercury and Venus in Pisces. Those indicate that he's very sensitive,emotional for Pisces is most sensitive,emotional sign. Mercury in Pisces indicates being extremely sensitive,receptive in communications...that can not only be compassionate and understanding but can also be easily hurt by what other's say too. With Mars conjunct that Mercury in Pisces, he can get very touchy.
The Mercury in Pisces conjunct Mars can also indicate that he could get angry easily from misunderstandings as well as imagined slights.

Oh yes... I actually feel sorry for them that they are this way. But it makes it difficult for me to communicate with them sometimes. Maybe this is my Sag ascendant making me too blunt for them... I try not to be because I know how sensitive they are but they're so easily affected sometimes even when I haven't meant anything bad. I have Mercury in Taurus. And when they get so sensitive, I don't really know how to react. It's like I'm not on their 'level' emotionally. I'm sensitive in my own way (Scorpio moon) but I can't relate to the extreme touchiness they seem to have...

And yes, I do feel sometimes like they are ready to do battle! That's definitely an Aries trait that's easy to see in them (Mars in Aries too, go figure).

Anyway, all in all... if this person wasn't a member of my family who I do care about, I'd probably avoid them! I gave up communicating with them for a while because I felt like every conversation was negative, but then they just got upset because they never heard from me. So I guess, knowing about their chart gives me more ways to cut them some slack...

Thank you so much for all the insights!

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Inner depths
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posted July 26, 2006 12:47 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Did you ever think to check out the declinations to see if this person has any out of bounds planets? And out of bounds moon over 23 Degrees would indicate that the emotions are over the top and strong.

Just an Idea!

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