posted August 05, 2006 02:45 PM            

Are you sure it's 11 degree orb
or is it 11 minutes of arc. There are 60 minutes in 1 degree.

If your Pluto square Ascendant is 11 minutes of arc,then it would be very strong aspect indeed.

posted August 05, 2006 03:09 PM            

even if you didn't have Pluto square Ascendant,

You have Sun conjunct Pluto,Moon square Pluto and Mars square Pluto. All those together indicate that you are a bit intense. Moon square Mars and Sun square Mars can seem like an aggressive type even though they don't act out that aggressiveness. The combination of challenging Mars and Pluto aspects can indicate that you can be quite intimidating. Mars square Pluto is no joke ..when it comes to seeming like a person can intimidate. It's an aspect that can attract aggression,violence. It's a good aspect for great energy that can be used for sports,sex,and endeavors where willpower,strength is needed.

posted August 05, 2006 03:15 PM            

I have:

posted August 05, 2006 04:39 PM            

I completely sympathize with you. I too have very strong Pluto influences in my chart.

Pluto conjunct Ascendant
Pluto conjunct Sun
Pluto square Moon
Pluto square Mars
Pluto square MC
Pluto in the 1st house
Sun, Mercury, Venus and Pluto in Scorpio
Sun square Mars
Sun conjunct Ascendant
Moon opposite Mars
Venus square Mars

So you can imagine the reactions I get when it comes to intensity/imtimidation...It's almost overwhelming at times...

Naturally, I'm a very friendly person. However, at first meeting...or if you saw me in a class, or walking at work, or down the street I've been told I have this intense, almost intimidating presence. Some people have reacted negatively simply from the vibes they'd gotten from me. As a child, it was hard for me to make friends, simply because everyone either was "afraid" of me or just didn't want to be around..

I've had to learn to deal with this (I have a very prominent Mars as well) by just not responding. I keep away from people who instantly seem to dislike me, seeing how it always seems to cause trouble whenever I don't. I try not to do/say anything that will cause an issue, however, i've just started to notice the infamous "looks" people talk about...

posted August 05, 2006 05:27 PM              

pluto is an intense planet with a lot of depth. i think that many people are scared by the expression of plutonian/scorponic energy because of their own issues with that planet's energy. so if you have a pluto theme you may find some people are overwhelmed, taken back, scared, whatever. but for every person out there who is scared of that aspect of your nature there are people who are drawn to it and appreciate it. for example me! i LOVE, LOVE, LOVE scorpio energy. i always connect with people with scorpio rising, moon, sun, aspects, etc... that energy works well with mine

i think that we attract what we feel within. so perhaps if you are finding that a lot of people are scared of your energy- then you may not be fully accepting of that energy within yourself. if you keep trying to shove your pluto in a shadow it's going to come out somewhere! you could end up meeting scary, intense people or find that people are scared of your own intensity. but when you integrate it you will find that you attract people who appreciate that side of you. the same goes for any other planet not integrated in your personality. if it's mars that's the issue- you might meet a lot of angry people or find that people think you are an angry person. mercury- you may run into and get annoyed with people who talk a lot, etc...

as for me and my pluto aspects (in case you are interested!):

uranus in scorpio in the 8th house
pluto stationed direct on the day of my birth
square mercury and jupiter
sextile venus, neptune and midheaven
semisquare saturn
semisextile uranus

i am an intense person by nature as well- but i find that it is appreciated in me, even if people can't quite understand it.

i also have a ton of water in general- pisces (moon in pisces conjunct ascendant, neptune conjunct midheaven, lots of neptune aspects) and cancer (sun in cancer in 4th house, mercury conjunct jupiter in cancer, lots of moon aspects). i have very little air and earth. air people typically find me intense and emotional and i typically find them detached and unemotional. we both have something to learn from one another though

posted August 05, 2006 05:36 PM              

Pluto Square Ascendant 4°50

Sun Square Ascendant 2°02

Tight aspects but she seems to get along just fine. People are even drawn to her and a few of my friends had crushes on her, which scared her away, the opposite of what you folks with those two aspects explained. I was almost to mysterious for my own good in winning her over but finally said something to her when I realized "she must really like me, she is always knocking on my door to see me and spent her birthday alone with me (after hanging out with friends of course.)

I, on the other hand, feel what you guys feel sometimes. I believe my Moon Square Mars at 1°21 is pretty powerful in naturally repelling people before they give me a chance. It makes me appear as standoffish and uninterested. My gf easily broke through that aspect and knows I have a tough time expressing myself and is okay and patient with it. sometimes those negative aspects aren't so negative and make you accept them in other people, like my gf. I am sure you guys find it easier to accept a stand offish type person.

my only other "negative" aspect really is Moon Square Ascendant 1°25. which again, is an intense one. my inner being and outer world are at odds, which really is true and I think that aspect can cause a lot of internal conflict similar to the intensity of the outer conflict some of you have described. I am always swaying between a social guy, sometimes goofball with weird antics, and being closed off and secretive, as a more internal struggle not evident to the rest of the world like the aspects you guys describe. I think yours are more external in their effects and how they play out.

posted August 05, 2006 07:23 PM              

Pluto conjunct Mars
Pluto conjunct Jupiter
Pluto conjunt Uranus

and the "softer" aspects of
Pluto sextile the Venus/Neptune/Ascendant conjunction.

posted August 10, 2006 11:54 AM              

Pluto conjunct Sun
Pluto trine Moon
Pluto sextile both Saturn & Neptune
Pluto(and Sun) qunicunx MC

Maybe this has something to do with Pluto being my highest ranked planet: Venus conjunct Uranus in Scorpio. Plus Venus in Scorpio & Pluto in Libra are in mutual reception. I also have an 8th house Moon. So there ya go. No where near as intense as y'all, but thass ok with meee

posted August 13, 2006 02:46 PM              

Welcome! I meant to say welcome! I just squeezed it in there ...

But also wanted to say, the part you said,

quote:

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"... if you keep trying to shove your pluto in a shadow it's going to come out somewhere! you could end up meeting scary, intense people or find that people are scared of your own intensity. but when you integrate it you will find that you attract people who appreciate that side of you. the same goes for any other planet not integrated in your personality."

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I just love that and hope to hear a lot more from you.

libraschoice7 -

Fellow intense Libra here!

posted August 13, 2006 02:51 PM              

Did you want to post the image of your Chart Wheel? Or your placements in text/grid form? We'll be more than happy to help you with that.

posted August 14, 2006 04:05 PM              

i look forward to interesting posts and thought provoking discussions :P

~h

posted August 15, 2006 12:49 PM              

Pluto in the 1st
Pluto Conjunct Ascendant
Pluto Square Sun
Pluto Square Mars
Pluto Sqaure Venus
Pluto Sextile Moon
Pluto Sextile Mercury
Sun, Mars, Venus conjunct

It's funny because I'm sorrounded by water people, most of them Scorps.

Do the Pluto in the 1st ppl also notice this need for constant change on a personal level? I'm never content w/myself. I always have to change whether it's every year or every month.