posted August 09, 2006 12:15 PM              

I just had a wonderful weekend and beginning of this week.

I went to a party with this guy who I had never met, but he was a friend of a friend. We hit it off right away and that night he told me he wanted to get to know me better. Needless to say, the feeling was mutual.

He stayed with me at my house for the next few days (2 nights) and they were the best 3 days I've had in a LONGGGG time. He made me dinner, we watched movies, talked, and "other stuff" but we didn't have sex. We agreed that we wouldn't at this point, but it's not because we didn't want it.

HE left me the cutest note yesterday, which I read when I came home from work and I started crying! For no reason! He is so sweet. The catch is he is moving to a city 2 hours away in 2 weeks.. and I don't know if I will see him again. We kinda left things open-ended and I will be happy either way because I had a wonderful experience.

I guess my question is do our charts say anything about forming a stable relationship together or will I have to settle for the fling we had?

Me:
December 15th, 1986
8:15pm
Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Him:
February 19th, 1988
6:36pm
Hull, Quebec, Canada

posted August 09, 2006 09:19 PM              

However, your Sun is conjunct his Uranus. This indicates a relationship that is surprising, sudden, unpredictable, and full of sexual attraction. It also means that the relationship could be quite unstable, even though it's very exciting while it lasts.

His Mars is also conjunct your Uranus. Again, this suggests an impulsive, intense, unpredictable relationship--one that isn't likely to be very stable.

In addition, your chart makes some difficult aspects to his North Node--four squares, to be exact, from your Sun, Moon, Uranus, and Chiron. This suggests that your path in this lifetime may be very different from his, and a relationship with him could potentially hold both of you back in your respective evolution.

posted August 09, 2006 10:20 PM              

Anything can happen, and I wish you the best of luck hun!

posted August 10, 2006 12:36 PM              

Now I guess you can see my dilemma here! In terms of strong, positive aspects in our synastry, this is the best I've seen between me and another person.

I hadn't checked the North Node aspects, however, so that is a little shocking to hear. But it also makes sense.. he is going away to live his life and I am staying here for University. Our future together doesn't seem very likely.

Blue, thanks for the support! It's good to hear that these things CAN work out. I think we will at the very least stay in touch, but who really knows. I have no where to reach him other than by email because he is staying with various friends before he leaves. He has my number so it's pretty much up to him to keep me posted.

I'll be interested to hear your view on this!

posted August 13, 2006 03:47 PM              

I too look at Saturn for clues on stability and longevity, but you made me realize that YES URANUS is just as important if not more ... you can have all the Saturn stability in Synastry or Composite, but if you have those quirky Uranus challenges -- well let me just say, it will either make or break ya ...

But thanks for strongly taking Uranus into consideration in response to this query.

It's very TRUE, and from my personal observation, the Aquarius/Uranus/11th House placement in EACH PERSON's Natal can be very telling of how comfortable they will be in the relationship ....

... example: You know those relationships where one day all is copesthetic, and the next the person is MIA?

Would you agree, look for those Uranus influences?

posted August 13, 2006 04:18 PM            

I would also take into consideration that if one or both have challenging Uranus natal aspects, it can be very hard for them to settle down in a relationship no matter if the synastry suggests a stable relationship.

If you see stuff like Venus trine Saturn in synastry, that doesn't necessarily mean that the couple has a stable,long term relationship. One of them might have Venus square Uranus natally,and have hard time settling down. Now if a person has Moon square Saturn,and his partner's Saturn trine his Moon, then there more likely can be a stable relationship.

You definitely have to take natal aspects into account before looking at the synastry.

posted August 13, 2006 05:41 PM            

I looked at some stuff. I use no more than 2 degree orb for Uranus because it's an outer planet. The Uranus conjunctions are well out of that range. I wouldn't think that those would be a problem. However, I noticed some Uranus declinations. Your Uranus parallels his Mars with 12 minutes of arc. I checked it out in the declination longitude equivalent chart,and it shows that your Uranus is conjunct his Mars with 28 minutes of arc. That Mars parallel Uranus is definitely significant in your chart and that pulls the wide Mars conjunct Uranus into effect.

Your Mars is conjunct his Descendant/oppose Ascendant with 43 minutes of arc. That's a very close aspect. Your Mars parallel his Descendant/contraparallel his Ascendant with 30 minutes of arc enhances it. That indicates that there can be a lot of passion between you two. You can be assertive,passionate with him and he immediately responds to that. It can be too aggressive at times. There can be impatience There can be anger,irritations between you two. You have to avoid violence.

Your Saturn square his Ascendant with 37 minutes of arc seems quite challenging. I always put far more emphasis on the narrowest orbed aspects. This is a very close aspect like your Mars square Saturn. It can seem that you can restrict,limit him and be too serious and have a lot of responisibilities for him. The relationship can seem too heavy. The good thing with Saturn aspects is the commitment,loyalty,stability,structure,discipline

His Ascendant/Descendant links to your Mars square Saturn in a challenging way in a very close orbed aspect configuration, and that can indicate serious problems that involve frustrations,irritations,tensions,conflict between you. There can be problems with the two of you getting what you want with each other. There can be disciplined,structured activity between you two.

I checked the transits on the date that you posted. It turns out that transiting Uranus is aspecting the synastry Ascendant-Mars-Saturn configuration. That would indicate a shared experienced transit that would connect you suddenly,and unexpectedly. Transiting Uranus was conjuncting your Mars with 6 minutes of arc and paralleling your Mars with 4 minutes of arc. Transiting Uranus was squaring your Saturn with 12 minutes of arc. Transiting Uranus was oppose his ascendant/conjunct his descendant with 49 minutes of arc. That could indicate that the unexpected,suddenness,erraticness,surprises,stimulation can affect the both of you together.

You have Sun conjunct Uranus in Sagittarius in 5th with 1'08 orb,and that can indicate independence,freedom in romance. There can be a lot of restlessness in romance. That could make it hard for you to settle down. The men in your life can be that way too. This definitely indicates that romantic affairs with men are unpredictable,unexpected. Your Sun is parallel Uranus with 3 minutes of arc,and that considerably enhances that. Your Moon in Gemini oppose Uranus with 1'30 orb indicates the need for stimulation,excitement,and independence in romantic affairs. This adds to the unpredictability in your romantic affairs. Also the opposition involves the 5th/11th houses and this could indicate that friends can suddenly be lovers and vice versa. Love and friendship can be at odds and need to be balanced out. The Moon in 11th oppose Sun in 5th with 2'35 orb can indicate that as well. You have a full moon,and that's a powerful lunar influence that indicate highly emotional,sensitive nature. You have a strong independence,freedom theme overall which can indicate a lot of restlessness can make it hard for you to settle down in a long term relationship.
It suggests that you can be bored easily and need excitement,stimulation,and fun. The unconventional can be more of your taste. The conservatives might not be for you.

Your Mars square Saturn with 6 minutes of arc indicates that you could be easily frustrated,impatient and have trouble going after what you want. There might be insecurities in you that can keep you from being assertive and going after the things that you desire. Also if you go after things that you desire,you could feel like you have been blocked. This could also indicate that discipline and structure hampers your actions,activity. It can also indicate that you clash with authority figures. Another thing too is that men can be problematic in your life to due to them being too limiting,restricting,too serious.

You have Venus conjunct Pluto in Scorpio with 2'47 orb, and that indicates a deep,intense love nature. This can indicate that you can develop very intense,profound love connections with others. This could also indicate that you have to avoid being very jealous,obsessed,and possessive in relationships. As you see this can indicate conflict with your strong Uranus stuff....a very strong contradiction...It could be that you want your independence,freedom,and a lot of space but need a lot of passion,intensity,and couldn't stand if your lover with anybody else. Your Venus trine Mars with 1'52 orb adds to the sexual nature and indicates a passionate love nature with the ability to both give and take as well as be considerate of your lovers. Your Mars trine Pluto with 4'39 orb indicates great stamina,energy. The Mars trine Venus-Pluto conjunction is highly sexual,intense,passionate with an usually strong sex drive. However,the Saturn in almost exact square to Mars can discipline,restrict sexual activity but also lead to frustration. Also..it can indicate dissatisfaction at times. Your Venus trine Jupiter is good for expansion,optimism in relationships. Venus trine Mars-Jupiter conjunction adds too that as well as a lot of enthusiasm in love,relationships.

Now looking at the guy's chart

He has Moon square Uranus with 2'53 orb,and that indicates that his emotional nature is unpredictable,erratic and that relationships with women can be that way too. There can be a strong need for independence,and space. This could make it hard for him to commit in a long term relationship. He has Moon in Aries square Mars with 4'43 orb,and this indicates that his emotional nature is quite passionate,fiery and that his relationships can be that way too. There can be a strong need for independence with this configuration too. There can be problems with impatience and aggression. There can be a quick temper. His Moon squares Neptune with 6'24 orb,and it's not a close aspect and so not much focus really. It does indicate that he has emotional sensitivity and his emotional nature can involve confusion,deception,illusion. It can indicate that he can be uncertain about he feels in relationships with women. He has Moon square Saturn with 2'36 orb,and that can indicate his emotional nature is very serious,disciplined,structured but he can feel limited,restricted. There can be depression. He might feel that there is too much heaviness and responsibilities in his life. His relationships with women can involve those things too. All those Moon aspects can indicate that he can have serious problems with women in life involving the things that I have already mentioned. He has Mars conjunct Uranus with 1'50 orb along with Mars parallel Uranus with 4 minutes of arc, and that indicates that his actions,activity,passions can be unpredictable,erratic. He can be a person that can be very impulsive,energetic,and restless. He can be suddenly angered,irritated. He also has to avoid getting involved in accidents due to rash actions

He has Venus in Aries and that indicates an initiating,passionate,fiery,assertive love nature that can be aggressive,impulsive. His Venus squares Neptune with 2'49 orb,and that can indicates that he has as an idealistic,imaginative,sensitive love nature that can involve confusion,deception,and illusion. It can indicate that he can be uncertain about his affections,love,relationships and this can definitely be a serious problem. There be a problem with seeing lovers with rosecolored glasses,thinking that they are all wonderful and overlook their faults. He can set himself for disillusionment. He has to make sure that he keeps his feet on the ground when it comes to his love affairs. He has Venus quincunx Pluto with 27 minutes of arc, and Pluto is stationary. The aspect is even stronger. That indicates that indicates a deep,intense love nature that requires adjustments due to strain and conflict inside himself. This can indicate that he can develop very intense,profound love connections with others. This could also indicate that he has to avoid being very jealous,obsessed,and possessive in relationships. With both Neptune and Pluto in challenging aspects to his Venus, there can indicate a very deep,subtle love nature which can involve serious problems that can involve manipulation,confusion,deception.

Overall, he better make sure that he doesn't have any serious issues involving women and relationships before he gets involved in a serious relationship with you. He needs to make sure that he knows what he wants in his relationship. He needs a lot of space in relationships too. He's definitely the highly sensitive,romantic,idealistic type with Sun in Pisces, Moon square Neptune,and Venus square Neptune.

I see that you're both very young, and so age can definitely be a factor in how the relationships works out. With you both being so young, it could be a hard to be in a committed relationship. Also with your strong Uranus influences, the unpredictability,erraticness,independence,and restlessness factor is very high! There is the Mars parallel Uranus. Like I said before, the natal charts has to be taken into account before looking at the synastry. From what I see, I think it would be hard for both of you to be in a long term relationship. There will have to be a lot of independence,space as well as excitement.

I looked at the composite. There is a Moon oppose Pluto with 1'19 orb, Moon square Mars with 6'06 orb,and Mars square Pluto with 4'47 orb. That indicates that the relationship can involve very intense,passionate feelings which can involve suspiciousness,jealousy,anger,aggression,and power struggles. It can be a good for lots of passion,sex. There can be a strong sexual chemistry. You have Sun conjunct Venus with only 7 minutes of arc which can indicate a strong love connection. However, keep in mind that not all strong love connections are necessarily harmonious nor longtermed. There are a lot of conflicting,short term love affairs with strong passion.

I wish you the best. I just wanted to point out the potential problems and challenges that you two have ....not just chemistry wise but also individually. You have to work out the challenges,problems in your lives before you can be in a relationship with each other or others.

Free will is the ultimate factor. Any relationship can work if both desire it and put in the effort. Patience and perseverance are important in relationships.

posted August 15, 2006 11:54 AM              

Thank you for the incredible reading!

As you can see from my chart, I have HUGE issues in relationships.. this whole theme of being pulled in two directions seems to permeate my chart.. what with the Sun Sag/Moon Gem, opposing 5th and 11th houses.. etc.. I always search for the passion and intensity and then run away from it later.

I'm very inconsistent and I feel bad for anyone who has to deal with me, actually, heh.

I've concluded that I probably will never see this guy again, and I'm not really upset about it. No regrets, it was fun! I am not in the place for a relationship, I am too all over the place and busy with my personal life.

Thank you all for your great insight into this matter, I really appreciate it!