posted August 13, 2006 06:03 PM            

To find out which of them is the master and which is the servant, we should look at their placement in regard to imaginary opposition line; The planet that is on the left-hand side is the master, that on the right-hand side is the servant.

e.g. I have Venus in Aries and Uranus in Scorpio and Mars in Virgo; it means freedom (Uranus) is always more important than love (Venus) but my deeds and actions (Mars) will depend upon my desires and physical needs(Venus); i.e. Uranus is stronger than Venus but Venus is stronger than Mars;

I have a number of quincunx aspects in my chart and it does make a lot of sense to me;

posted August 13, 2006 06:34 PM            

I have:
Moon quincunx Uranus 0°29
Moon quincunx Ascendant 2°42
Venus quincunx Uranus 0°20
Venus quincunx Ascendant 1°54
Jupiter quincunx Ascendant 3°36
Saturn quincunx Neptune 1°19

posted August 13, 2006 07:19 PM            

I have only two Quincunx, but it looks like they'd be important:

~ Sun Quincunx Ascendant (Sun at 5* Cap, Asc at 2* Gemini)

~ Jupiter Quincunx Saturn (Jup at 16* Cap, Saturn at 15* Gemini)

posted August 14, 2006 08:54 PM            

Very interested in knowing more...

posted August 15, 2006 12:13 PM              

But with the imaginary line, do you mean simply which planet is on the left and which on the right?

Lets see..

Mars ( master ) - Saturn ( servant )
Aggression & impulse over self control & frustration ( funny, it feels the other way round )

Mercury ( master ) - Moon ( servant )
Communication over emotions ( THAT, I know is true )

posted August 15, 2006 12:21 PM            

I have Moon in Pisces in 6th quincunx Pluto in Libra in 1st with 2'20 orb. My mother was too intense,controlling,manipulating,resentful,paranoid,violent,with serious psychiatric and health issues in how I experienced her.

posted August 15, 2006 12:22 PM            

For instance, my quincunx placements deal with the 1st and 8th houses. The opposition line goes between the 12th house and 6th theoretically. If I rotate my whole chart counter-clockwise then I get my 8th house placements to the left of the line, and my 1st house placements to the right of the line.

posted August 15, 2006 04:07 PM            

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you draw a line dividing the two quincunx planets, and then the one on the left of the line is the ruler

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Yes, that's exactly what I meant, just to make it easier to define which planet is the ruler.

AG, in your case, seems Jupiter (expansion, optimism) will eventually win over Saturn (restriction, fear) and Sun (self-acceptance, your inner personality) will become more importnat to you than ASC(self-image, your outer personality);

posted August 15, 2006 06:41 PM            

Stuck in the trees with too much Virgo in my chart...

Glaucus I experienced my father much the same way. as I have Saturn rx in Aries 11' Quincunx Venus rx in Virgo 8'...
I have had to struggle with my self-worth... standing up for myself.. with regards to all my relationships... I have made progress... I guess I will see how much as Saturn is in my 7th now!

posted August 15, 2006 07:34 PM            

Peri,

Isn't it interesting how this will work out? Jupiter beats Saturn, but my Saturn- ruled Sun beats my Asc.

I feel very good about Jupiter beating out my fears. Jupiter is also conjunct my NN in Capricorn, so it almost makes twice as much sense that my optimism would win out over my fears.

posted August 16, 2006 03:13 AM            

AG is right, we should rotate counter-clockwise because the planets move so.

DL,

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don't really like the idea of my saturn in the 12th winning out over my sun in the 7th. Is it restriction vs. free expression?

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You are right, there is nothing to like about this aspect but at least now you realize where your (possible) problems in relationships might come from

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…It is possible that people with Saturn in H12 are dealing with more than individual Karma, and in working through their own fear and negativity they are helping to transmute the Karma of Mankind. For such a task the rewards are commensurate but there may be years of doubt, darkness and depression before they are experienced… http://www.dkfoundation.co.uk/BookKarmaHouse12.htm

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This aspect btw can be worked out through the energies/activites ruled by the planet that makes supportive aspects both to Sun and Saturn, if any.

posted August 16, 2006 03:23 AM              

I've got Sun (Aqua/9th house) Quincunx Saturn (Virgo/4th house)

During my childhood my father was a jack @$$ of the highest order...not only to me but my year and half younger Libra brother also (He has Sun conjunct Saturn). Our father was a Sag who had no control over his temper.

Now he's older so we dont take his yelling and complaining seriously, and we just criticize him back.