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Shadowystorms
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posted August 20, 2006 11:07 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
First of, let me apologize to you for being a source for so much controversy surrounding you over here. I had no idea it would lead to this.

Secondly, If you were here with me, I would get down on my hands and knees and bow down before you. You are a sheer genius, as, only you have been able to make me re-believe in the wonders of an astrological birthchart reading.

How on earth did you know all that about me? I've been struggling with obesity and my closet homosexuality for as long as I can remember. No one, not even some of the most "brilliantly professional" astrologers have been able to point that out to me in my charts. Not a single one except you. And the way you depicted that i live in a stern strict old fashioned family.. remarkable.

At first when I read your post, I was shocked and appalled, thinking how could anyone be so cruel. However, after some time, I re-read it, and then it really hit me. I spiralled back into my past (with the help of old journals and diaries i kept) and every entry of mine describing depressive feelings did revolve around my physical body. I thought and thought, spiralled back and forth, and after hours and hours of reassessing and re-evaluating, I discovered how right you were by calling me a "total wh@re for attention". All my suicidal attempts were just ways of gaining sympathy and pitty from people, but it just ended up backfiring and i felt more and more worse when nothing happened and hence no one could feel sorry for me. I truly was living in a "pitty party", and was constantly doing such things for attention. I grew up thinking my parents and family prefered my thin and beautiful sisters and not me, the fat ugly one, and I would weep and weep all alone in my room when I would see my siblings going out on dates and parties while I stayed home to open the door for them when they came back.

However, in all my sobbings and private depressive spirals of self loathing, I now realize that I wasn't really helping myself. I was only continuing the viscious circle of depression and self hatred, only to be clouding all the good things about myself. My family doesnt hate me, they've provided me everything I could ever need, even though I'm in my early 20's and not yet earning or supporting myself, they are giving me a comfortable home with all the luxuries to keep me content. My parents do care for me, and don't think I'm useless just because I'm fat and ugly. If they did, they wouldn't have accepted me back despite me dropping out of college and never telling them about it. They encouraged me to finish college as well as send people to me for tarot card readings, just so that i can improve my skills. I really was the "most self depreciative dumbfuck the world has ever seen". Now I feel so ashamed for wasting my 20 odd years just being unhappy for myself. Thank you for opening my eyes about it. Now I have the strength and energy to move on with my life and leave those feelings behind, without Ritalin and Prozac helping me.

And I'm not just saying it for the sake of saying it. You did save my life. For your brutal honesty and frankness, topped by your astrological brilliance, has helped me see the light. Isn't it silly how I used something as superficial as my looks to dig myself into such a deep hole of depression.

You wont believe how many times have I consulted "professionals". They all used to give me the same tried and tired "feel-good" motivational jargon. But it never worked. Then I came on here, seeking more help. At first, no one answered, till I bumped it up, then Tim responded. No offence to him, he is brilliant. But his sugar coated generalized version couldnt help me tap into the root cause the way you did. Rev Alice kindly offered her email address promising help, but till now I havent received a single reply. Again, I mean no disrespect to her, for she is also well learned in her field. Librachoice offered some positivity, and thank you for it. Yet when you replied, you hit the hammer on the nail. And thank you so much for doing it.

I know you didn't mean to offend me. You probably knew that i needed the slaps and the "Snap out of it", as well as the, "Get over yourself bi@tch!" You knew that it would get me up on my feet, and begin reevaluating myself. If you stuck to the feel good notion, I really would have gone mad. How you knew that I needed such kind of reinforcement is beyond me. You really must have studied my chart. You truly are an astrological genius. And like many geniuses, greatly misunderstood by the masses.

I've taken your advise.

The very next day, I enlisted myself with a dietetian/homoeopathic practioner, who has put me on an all natural plan. And I'm proud to say that just after two days, I've lost a staggering 5 pounds. Even though my dietetian warned me not to get too excited as it is water weight, and I do have a long way to go, and the weightloss wouldnt be so sudden, it would take time. But it truly has kept me motivated. When i stood on the scales that day and saw my loss, it was one of the happiest moments in my life, and I owe it all to you to finally allow me to shed tears of hope and happiness, rather than despair and regret.

I've even started going for a walk. Even though it isnt really that brisk, but for me to walk 2 miles, it's a miracle. And you're absolutely right, a walk can do wonders, in more ways than one. I walk along a Nature trail, and as i walk, I see the beauty of mother nature around me, appreciating all her joys and wonders. If it werent for your advise, I wouldn't have ever gone to that trail, and discovered it's beauty. Instead I would have been stuck in my room and sobbing my self pittying heart out.

When I look in the mirror, I dont see the same fat ugly unhappy boy. I visualize a strong, handsome, fit and sexy man. Which is what I shall be in the coming year, and it will all be due to you.

And how on hell did you know I'm a writer who can't complete anything. Thank you for saying that to me in such a way. I will move my fatass and I shall strive to complete my works. And when i do finish my first book, it would be dedicated solely to you.

You are truly a god send. An astrological "Goddess". Divine with blessed knowledge from the stars. Where ever "in the arms of unconsciousness" you are, I hope you are doing well and aren't hurt by what people are saying about you here. I love you, and honor you. Please don't take the things said here seriously. They probably didnt understand your intentions and motivations and were quick to judge and discriminate after astro junkie made an issue out of it. Strange how it took a closed up post and a hasty assumption to turn a saint into a sinner. Stay with us here in Linda Land Divine Goddess, we need you here.

Love

SS.


P.S.

To all those who have spoken ill about Divine Goddess, and jumped to such harsh conclusions of her character and persona. I am ashamed.

I know you all were trying to be supportive, I did read all your good posts and kind words. But how could you say such things about someone like DG. Especially after all her contributions over here.

Sure, her methods are different and unorthodox, and she doesn't refrain from speaking her mind, and perhaps she does use cuss words. But look beyond that and see her sheer brilliance.

She has posted about numerous topics relating to astrology, as well as, cleared many misconceptions and cloudy issues in the field of astrology and the occult. Since I have been studying astrology for a long time with a passionate frevor, her posts have really helped me learn more and appreciate astrology more and more. Never before have i seen anyone give clear and conscise solutions to complex astrological problems.

When neptune5 posted about death and health issues, she was the first to put a stop to the false information spreading, and obliged us with her wisdom in checking something like death, in a way no one could have explained ever. Can't you see that her scoldings to Neptune were only meant to stop the spread of inaccurate information that can lead to severe consequences in the wrong hands?

And how she talked about various house systems and encouraged people to try and experiment with different ones instead of sticking to the regular Placidus. I switched to equal, and it has helped me tremendously in studying charts.

Those of you who have received readings from her, couldn't you see how they ring true to you all? And her style is humorous and gets us smiling. And when she debates serious issues, Like Wicca in the The Pilgrims Progress section, (THE PATH). My cousin is a Dianic wiccan, and when i made her read what DG had to say, her words were, "Finally, somebody is breaking all the negative stereotypes and telling the truth about the craft."

And then, just over a newbie, you turned your backs on her, calling her god knows what all and thinking how vile she is. It's shameful to treat someone who's contributed so much without a benefit of doubt. Shameful.


I personally am requesting Randall, and all the mods, to allow her to post again and I hereby apologize to her on behalf of everyone.


Here are some of her posts and topics. Please, see the sheer extraordinary brilliance she possesses, along with an extremely witty sense of humor. And then decide whether she is really worth being made a social outcast.


Thank You.


Topic: Physical Vitality http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/010096.html

Topic: Death & The 8th House http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/010101.html

Topic: Which House System? http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/009795.html

Topic: Vedic Astrology I had no idea!!! http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/008544.html

Topic: Erogenous Zones? http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/009412.html


Topic: 25 STEPS TO CHOOSING YOUR VOCATION ASTROLOGICALLY http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum4/HTML/000285.html

Topic: Projecting into the Future: Using Numerology http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/001683.html

Topic: Thought reading by Numbers http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/001624.html
Topic: New Home-Good luck symbols http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/002234.html

Topic: Great songs with Mystical Undertones http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/001646.html

Topic: Spiritual Kissing ---The Kamasutra way http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/001655.html


Topic: The Path http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum13/HTML/000472.html

Topic: Freaky Astrological Parents - And how to Survive them http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/008679.html


Topic: Sibling Rivalry ; The Astrological Battle
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/008720.html


Topic: Sex and the City - The Astrological Version http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/008279.html


Please come back DG, we need you.

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hippichick
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posted August 20, 2006 11:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Woah.......

I am floored..and Pisces do not get floored too often (we live in the clouds!)

God bless you, Shadow, you are, ah.... no words to describe at present. Maybe, strength, fortitude,(cojones!), introspective, spiritual, loving.......

Sending, Peace, Love and Light,

Terri

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Kim Rogers
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posted August 21, 2006 12:07 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow Shadowystorms,

This is an amazing post! I'm glad things worked out well for you.

It would be my guess that because there have been many posts about suicide that your last post scared AJ and others. If the judgement was hasty it was out of concern for a human life.

Thank you for sharing the truth about youself, & setting the record strait.

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Wednesday
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posted August 21, 2006 12:17 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Shadowystorms, it's nice to see you again. It's great to know that you're taking the steps to overcome your depression. And it's good to know that Divine Goddess' way worked for you. Personally, I don't mind what method people use, as long as they can save lives. But yeah, I can understand that a lot of people on this board were afraid that her seemingly harsh way would send you into a deeper depression.

All power to you in your journey to become a strong, handsome, fit and sexy man!

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astro junkie
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posted August 21, 2006 12:19 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All I can say

www.solarleaders.com/sl_rankings.php?first=1


Shadowystorms -

I'd just like to let you know, I'm discouraging others to feel as if they can truly help you.

For the band of brothers this may have incurred, it doesn't work like this, try as you may ...

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Shadowystorms
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posted August 21, 2006 12:32 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for your lovely responses hippichick, Kim Rogers, and Wednesday. I only Hope Divine Goddess could read the message.


Astro Junkie

I don't know what your post is about. What is that website? I checked it out, and there seems to be someone with a similar username to mine on it. But it isn't me. I've never heard of it before.

This ID of mine is taken from an old D&D character. If you are assuming that i belong to that site. Then your assumption is just as hasty and harsh as it was about Divine Goddess.

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fayte.m
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posted August 21, 2006 12:40 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Glad you were able to find the positives in this and consider it in retrospection, a wakeup call instead of a thrashing.
Good luck.
PS. But we were all worried about you.
Folks do care.

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hippichick
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posted August 21, 2006 12:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AJ

as always...

peace, love and light

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LuLu
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posted August 21, 2006 12:48 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Shadowystorms-

I am happy and pleased to hear that you have found it within yourself to find the strength and guidance that you need. And if your awakening was guided in part by the words of Divine Goddess, then I am grateful that she was able to help you on that journey.

As someone who has worked in the mental health field with adolescents, I know that my concern was coming not from DG's willingness to help you, but from her verbage and methods in doing so. While I am grateful that this approach has changed your life and gave you the headstart that you need, I feel that Astro Junkies' concern for your well-being may have been misconstrued slightly by you. Her concern, and the concern of others on this sight, was with those souls who cannot handle such an approach. While we post on here on a regular basis, it is hard to grasp the ins and outs of someone's personality fully through their postings. I am glad that your soul was tough enough to see DG's advice for what it was, but others may be far too delicate to handle such a critique. For those people, AJ was simply looking out, as is her duty as a moderator. Anyone working in the mental health field would be remiss in approaching a client without a complete and thorough knowledge of their personality. Too many things can trigger a negative reaction that could cause further damage to an already sensitive psyche. We are all simply trying to protect the souls of others and again, I am truly happy that yours is on the mend. From what I have seen, and correct me if I am wrong (I can handle it ), but I don't believe anyone has criticized the astrological insights that Divine Goddess possesses, simply the method with which she approached it.

I am thinking of you on your journey and sending you all the strength I possess. You have everything you need inside of you. Bless you.

LuLu

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BlueTopaz124
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posted August 21, 2006 12:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueTopaz124     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I echo AJ and fayte. People do care. Most people would step way back with DG's approach for good reason.

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Glaucus
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posted August 21, 2006 01:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Using tact really does help. If somebody came at me like she did, I will go off on the person. I am not afraid to admit that.

I wouldn't use that approach with others. Especially..somebody who is feeling very depressed. I have a long history of depression and anxiety,and so I know from past experience. I wouldn't be that harsh to a person.

Also...a lot of people judge others without even being in their shoes. That stuff really ****** me off.


That's my 2 cents

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Wednesday
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posted August 21, 2006 01:09 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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scorpiopride
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posted August 21, 2006 01:51 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, well, well shadowystorms I'm thrilled you found your happy place. Forgive me for saying this but I don't think responses like the one you got should be encouraged. If I had received such a response during my darker days it would have only brought me down. Though I really was in a dark place then, It was not about attention for me, as I said I suffered silently.

I guess I did not completely understand you and now I feel a bit exposed for opening myself up here. (scorpio sun leo moon) being secretive and full of pride you might see how this would bug me. I blame myself of course for doing it but I truly thought I was possibly giving some comfort to someone that needed it.
I think people can be helped by the so called sugar coated versions of things rather then the harsh truthful side of things. Seeing the positive side of things is always better then the negative. Those that dig themselves into deep holes of depression need to repair themselves before anybody can truly help them.

I wish you the best of luck with your new found positive attitude and outlook. I hope you can follow through with it all and truly be happy.

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Rainbow~
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posted August 21, 2006 02:11 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*Sniff! Sniff!* I could be wrong.....but I'd swear Mickey Mouse (aka Michael the rodent) forgot his deordorant...*sniff..sniff..*

......or is something decaying in Copenhagen? *sniff...sniff...*

.....on the other hand....miracle of miracles....one never knows, does one.....advice like Divine Goddess gave poor desperate Shadowystorms, would have been the final nail in MY coffin...had I been in that space...asking for help!!!!! I mean....it would have done me right in....

But then I guess sometimes "tough love"' works!

Divine Goddess....you have been greatly underestimated....

Congratulations!!! *I think*

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DayDreamer
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posted August 21, 2006 02:21 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow again...well in that case great job in helping Shadowystorms "to see the light", DG!

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double trouble gemini
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posted August 21, 2006 04:23 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi Shadowystorms very happy to see someone actually helped u get over ur depression.
glad to see u are making good changes in ur self.. i hope u always feel very beautiful and content abt ur self,physically and mentally.

after reading DG's reply to u, i too felt like all the others on this forum becaues i too suffer from the same depression... i feel ugly, un attractive , unwanted and as a result i dont like to socialize..and if i come across a person like DG i will 100% go deeper down into my gloomyness.. i would firstly feel so unwanted and secondly see people blaming me of trying to steal the lime light in linda land!!!.. i wouldnt want to ever return to lindaland,it would feel so insulting..its a no no way for me.
but u really surprised all of us!...
after reading ur post i feel u really needed the 'wake up and smell the coffee' call..
glad it helped u, lots of love.

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Miss Saturn
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posted August 21, 2006 05:29 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Glad you are well Shadowystorms. I still stand by what I say and the Divine Godess approach could have went so very wrong.

So caution is needed for people. Do not attempt this very cruel to be kind approach. Although it has worked for Shadowystorms. You will be walking on very dangerous ground if you try it on someone in emotional despair. You have to be responsible with Astrology no matter how talented you are.

Astro Junkie would not be a responsible Moderater if she had encouraged this sort of posting. As the Moderater of this Forum she has a duty to all Forum members to stop this kind of post. And she has done her duty very well.

Wishing you well Shadowystorms on your road to recovery.

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Cardinalgal
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posted August 21, 2006 07:47 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well all I can say is hats off to you Shadowystorms! You're certainly a very forgiving and advanced soul to have taken on board the message that DG was trying to send in the manner that it was presented.

Although, if people had leapt to my defence over the fact that they felt I was unfairly spoken to, (not to mention the fact that they were worried about me and genuinely cared what happened to me) I don't think the word I would use is 'ashamed,' to describe their condemnation of the person who'd spoken so bluntly. However you're entitled to your opinion and the very best of luck to you.

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posted August 21, 2006 08:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting

IP traced?

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What we do for ourselves dies with us. What we do for others and the world is immortal"~

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sugar_buns
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posted August 21, 2006 10:27 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
----sugar buns sees all this----
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----sugar buns faints----

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LuLu
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posted August 21, 2006 10:31 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Sugar_buns...I do believe I like you...that was great

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teaselbaby
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posted August 21, 2006 11:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teaselbaby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Although, if people had leapt to my defence over the fact that they felt I was unfairly spoken to, (not to mention the fact that they were worried about me and genuinely cared what happened to me) I don't think the word I would use is 'ashamed,' to describe their condemnation of the person who'd spoken so bluntly.

Same here.

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posted August 21, 2006 11:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Juni~
I haven't been here for all this stuff, and I am catching up.. but yes, something sure does smell fishy.. and I don't mean Piscean.

IP indeed...?

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sugar_buns
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posted August 21, 2006 12:13 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

no really its actually how i felt reading all this this....
n the original drama thread offcource!

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