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DayDreamer
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posted August 25, 2006 06:23 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What aspects promote a fighting spirit?

I have Sun conjunct Mars (conj Mercury Aqua/opposite Jupiter Leo) and from day 1 Ive had a pretty combatitive and agressive personality.

Any one with a difficult Sun-Mars aspect relate?

What other aspects promote this?

What are your experiences?

And how do you use this energy or control it?

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cat71
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posted August 25, 2006 06:33 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Mars (Aquarius 9th) is trine my Sun and my Saturn, I don't really know if this has any relevance to your questions overall, but it takes an awful lot to get me to blow, things niggle me for a long time but when i reach breaking point it's mount vesuvius! + =


Also, I have this thing where if I dislike a person (and usually this is an instinctual thing) i can never give that person the time of day or work with them long term, I don't think i come across as combative but I do tend to behave very coldly towards them and only really engage them if I absolutely have to (like in the workplace) - this is one area where I understand my scorpio friend the best - if I dislike a person ain't nothing they can do to change it

And: I have a major problem with authority, if I'm treated like a minion and not respected - I leave

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DayDreamer
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posted August 25, 2006 06:43 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for sharing cat

I also get that instinctual feeling about a person when I first meet them. The Pisces, Aqua and Sag in me try to find a compromise even with people I don't necessary like.

Is your Sun conjunct Saturn too? Maybe Saturn might be why it takes a lot to get your blood to boiling point since Saturn usually keeps its cool.

Mars in Aqua and authority don't make a compatible match I hear ya on that one

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posted August 25, 2006 06:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would say at times I have an abrasive personality, that is blunt and combatitive, but that's because I have an aries asc and therefore my chart ruler is mars. Most of my aspects to mars are very good expcept its opposition to Neptune. I'd say for me my fighting spirit comes from its trine to pluto - a steely will. My mars is in Gem/3rd house and I have ocassionally outwitted enemy.

But then I have an Aquarian sun and you'll see someone in the for the long haul which will outwill and outlast and out-stubborn (if that is a word) the enemy. That's my usual tactic.

And I'm much like the previous writer, once you cross me, you will never get into my good books and I will never associate with you.

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DayDreamer
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posted August 25, 2006 06:54 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi 23,

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But then I have an Aquarian sun and you'll see someone in the for the long haul which will outwill and outlast and out-stubborn (if that is word) the enemy. That's my usual tactic.

That's what scares me when i reflect on my own personality. Though it can be a good thing.

The more Mutuable (Gemini Asc, Pisces Moon) and Aquarian parts of my chart do help me see other perspectives. What's your moon in?

But I am set in my ways once my mind is made up, to the detriment of people that try to challenge me.

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posted August 25, 2006 07:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Daydreamer -

I have a libran moon, so there is some niceness in me

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DayDreamer
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posted August 25, 2006 07:04 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hehehe you say that as if Aquarius isn't nice??

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posted August 25, 2006 07:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for alanabelle86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've got a Mars in Aquarius...singleton (Air singleton)

Sun square Mars
Moon opposite Mars
Mars square Pluto
Mars sextile Uranus and Saturn

(Pluto conj. Sun and Ascendant, 1st house)

I am extremely independent and hotblooded, always ready to defend someone I like/love, something believe in, or something I just feel like doing. And I would fight forit till the end of the earth, just because it's something that either means something to me, or something I want.


I have serious authority issues, (Mars-Moon opposition from 4th-10th). And my temper can be off the wall at times. I've been told that I can be far too aggressive in going after what I want. I'm just very willfull, and sometimes I do have to watch that and realize that blindly trampling along towards what I want won't always work.


In my life, (so far) I've really had to learn and adjust to compromising with other people (Thank god for my Libra Ascendant) because I'm usually so bent on getting my own way and doing my own thing that any kind of resistance no matter what can set me off like a nuclear bomb.

That's the one thing that gets to me, when no one else goes along/gives me what I want...and it sounds bad but like I said, I've become much better with it, and I'm glad I see it now.


Now, instead of trying to force everyone around me to go along with what I want, I just try and "gently push them along"

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ALeonine
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posted August 25, 2006 07:10 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am very short tempered!
Also if i dnt like a person from the first meeting nothing can make me change my perspective...

Also if i get angry I am like a Lion on rampage..
i think its becuz I am a Leo
also i have Mars Conjunct MC

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posted August 25, 2006 07:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Daydreamer

No, Aquarians are nice, most of my friends are Aquarian, I love my own sign But I would rather not annoy another Aquarian. As someone said, on their bad side they are "mad, bad and dangerous". I suppose that applies to me as well

*pokes finger continuously into ALeonine's arm*

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DayDreamer
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posted August 25, 2006 07:23 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi alanabelle86 and ALeonine


Alanabelle,

You've got alot of explosive aspects.

I think I might need some more Libra in my chart too.

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Now, instead of trying to force everyone around me to go along with what I want, I just try and "gently push them along"

Im still developing that art How did you get to that point?


ALeonine,

how much Leo do you have in your chart? Mars on IC would give you explosive emotions...how was your home growing up?


Do you guys ever feel selfish or guilty for being this way?

And do you think that something in the way we were brought up allowed us to develop this personality, or do you think we were just born this way?

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posted August 25, 2006 07:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was wondering if Sun-Uranus square would have an impact on fighting. I am sure I read about this recently. I have this in my chart too. I also have Saturn in Cancer - that might make me shrewd. But then I have pluto opposing both asc and Black Moon Lillith

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DayDreamer
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posted August 25, 2006 07:27 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi 23,

I usually get along well with my own sun sign.

In my experience, I dont think there's another sign that I can get away with having a fight with...and still come out as friends and as if nothing happened a minute after.

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posted August 25, 2006 07:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Daydreamer - thats true what you say. My partner's best friend is an Aquarian and he happened to be a friend of mine at university. We heap so much crap on each other and say quite vicious things to each other but he is the only person that I can say (apart from my family members) that I have forgiven for his actions and I'd say vice-versa for him!

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DayDreamer
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posted August 25, 2006 07:40 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know we tease, poke fun of each other and have said pretty mean things also.

One of my Aqua friends almost got us killed, twice, in two separate car accidents/incidents, and I was ready and willing to knock her out both times.

We have held grudges but they don't last long at all because we relate pretty well.

But if I thought an Aqua "friend" was only trouble or a bad influence, I wouldn't have troubles disassociating myself from him/her.

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posted August 25, 2006 07:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know, I have never really met a bad Aquarian, but I too would disassociate if they were trouble. But thats the thing, an Aquarian might be too much to handle for another but for me, I know how to deal with them because its like dealing with the reflection in a mirror - you know what they will do

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DayDreamer
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posted August 25, 2006 07:51 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh they're not all like "dealing with the reflection in a mirror" in my experience.

And I think when you're too similar, as Ive seen in a twin set of Aquarian friends of mine, you tend to (try to?) be as different as possible.

Its not that some are too much to handle...more like I dont really want to deal with some of em.

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mysticaldream
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posted August 25, 2006 07:57 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can definitely agree with cat; it takes a while to get me mad but when I do it can be explosive (I also have a hard time being disrespected and if I'm honest, even told what to do).

I have a stellium of Mars, Pluto, Juptier and Uranus in my tenth house. I think it's that Mars -- Pluto conjunction that is the problem. I have so much Libra (and Venus in the first house) at first people don't think I have a temper..........then they find out they are wrong! LOL

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DayDreamer
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posted August 25, 2006 08:00 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ive seen that Libra doesn't negate a temper.

My Libra brother and I used to fight regularly. And he had Saturn conjunct his sun too. But he also had a Leo asc and his Mars was square mine.

So how do you keep your cool once that temper flares up?

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ALeonine
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posted August 25, 2006 08:02 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey 23, even i have Sun sqr uranus!!
*Pokes backs at 23*

so now u shudnt be doing tht to me!!

DD, i think i was born with this! but now i must say tht i have improved a lot...i always think before i act...only thing is sometimes i am very sarcastic! and really know the other person'a Achilles Heel!

i also have a lot of Libra in my chart..maybe thts y...
my ASC is Libra
also
Sun Sextile Ascendant
Pluto Conjunction Ascendant
Venus, Jupiter and Pluto in Libra

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DayDreamer
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posted August 25, 2006 08:04 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I dont think I have an Achilles Heel anymore. They've all been used up. When Im really mad I go for the jugular (not literally of course!!)

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mysticaldream
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posted August 25, 2006 08:21 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well,
I used to be so quick to "mouth off" that it caused me problems, especially with people I care about. I would say things I didn't really mean and couldn't take back or I would be hateful just because I was frustrated at the moment and it had nothing to do with the person.
Soooo..... I have learned to watch for the signs that I am losing my patience and feeling frustrated and when I start to feel that way, I take a few minutes to be by myself and regain some peace. Then I don't react in ways I only end up regretting.
I also think channeling your passion and energy into something positive that you believe in helps.

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cat71
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posted August 25, 2006 09:45 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey DD - sorry been reading away in the astrology course
Sun, Mars and Saturn - grand trine (i think) - mars Aqua is trine saturn in gem trine Sun in Libra - should have made that clearer sorry

me + authority =

How have I learnt to deal with my expression of temper? ha ha it may sound naughty but I haven't and don't intend to! I figure if someone has got me to that point of exploding then they have benn REALLY mean or disrespectful in which case they deserve what they get (but I don't hold a grudge) once I've said my piece, I'm done with it and walk away, never to look back - sounds harsh doesn't it, but why suffer fools?!
The only people I am really careful and diplomatic with when I'm mad is my family, because I truly don't want there to be a time when someone passes over and I have to deal with having said something mean or nasty to them that I could never take back - family is everything to me - prob moon in cancer there

Oh I just thought of something else - I am a teacher, high school level - the only place I never show my temper, displeasure or disappointment yes, but not temper (it's just self control), if you let them see they've got to you, you may as well give up and do something else cos they'll ride it all year...

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The Virgin
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posted August 25, 2006 10:18 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My mars is Leo, singleton trines saturn square neptune sextile asc.

When I was younger I was like a couple of you who would look at someone and decide right then and there I didn't like them, then I would proceede to tell them. When someone irked me I'd tell them where to go and how to get there-ahh memories. I lost one job for telling a co worker to f-off for the upteenth time and having an attitude in general. After that I made a conscience effort to tone it down and actually went the complete opposite direction. It wasn't easy and took a lot of work and opened the door to experiences that helped me raise to a higher spiritual level than I had been previously.

That said, I do still have a temper and it was tested when I got with my son's father five years ago and did I ever backslide when my peace, love, joy, happiness, balance seemed to fail me. I go for the juggular also with words and he went for the juggular with actions-not pretty I'll tell you. I had to go through yet another transformation that brought me to a level of comfort within myself that I could live with but alas I am still not at the place I was before I met him. I get angry and have to stop myself whereas before the anger rarely even came about. But then again I never had to deal with a person I had no desire to deal with for any significant amount of time. Customers come and go, and anyone you work with is left when you go home, but my son's father is not going to go away. So, I have to deal. That's the thing about raising up-just when you think you've got it down your skills are tested at the next level. I suppose since my Saturn Aries is in the seventh house that is why all of my greatest challenges and victories have been with relationships.

Well, I think I went a bit off topic here and told you more than you wanted to know-sorry about that. Virgo, she is taking a rest and Pisces is stepping up.

Peace All

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