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Topic: Oh those fishy men!
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LeoLys unregistered
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posted August 30, 2006 09:27 AM
I know a fish who is actually making his living on the open sea. I have known him for a loong time- like 20 years. Something I have never understood about him...HOW COME HE DOESN'T EXPRESS MISSING PEOPLE? I wonder if it's just a fishy, watery thing for him...he's Pisces Sun, Leo Moon and Gemini Asc...so there is a LOT of acting, I am sure. His reactions to sentiment are just never right. I mean, we're friends, right? So, when a friend says "it's good to hear your voice", don't you react and say "thanks" or "it's good to hear from you, too"? But no, he's like non-reaction man. Gotta wonder..is he shallow, is he stupid? is he hiding? who knows? i would just like some kind of reassurance that this is a Pisces thing. Or maybe it's a lifestyle thing? maybe it's just easier to not let your heart get attached to anyone. friends, family or otherwise. It's all very confusing for a Leo like me. I'll spill my guts even when you don't want me to! lol! I like to make people feel warm and appreciated. What's wrong with that? Furthermore, get him a little drunk, then he's spilling over with sentiment and deep thoughts. I worry about that, too. I have read things that say Pisces shouldnt drink. ------------------ Leo Sun Cappy Moon Cancer Asc. IP: Logged |
Lauren unregistered
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posted August 30, 2006 10:29 AM
hmm Venus Retrograde? just wondering.. IP: Logged |
LeoLys unregistered
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posted August 30, 2006 10:38 AM
I'm not real sure. him or me? what does that mean if you have venus retrograde?IP: Logged |
Mama Mia Knowflake Posts: 117 From: Registered: Feb 2010
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posted August 30, 2006 12:05 PM
A drunken mind speaks a sober heart...It could be so many things does not neccessarily have to be anything to do with astrology at all. What I have noticed is ppl's upbringing has alot to do with how they express their feeling toward ppl. He could have grown up in a house where emotions were not expressed well or something could have happen to him in his childhood that makes him this way. Who knows, why don't you ask him? And if he has been like this for 20 years and he is still your friend then let it be. No one stays friends with someone that long if they do not care about them. and after 20 years and you still have not figured it out I don't know.. Pisces here we can open up to ppl especially after knowing them 20 years.. IP: Logged |
LeoLys unregistered
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posted August 30, 2006 01:35 PM
MM,Yeah, you know how it is...deep down, you fish know stuff that we other, younger souls aren't sure exists without being TOLD so. I envy that. I KNOW this, yet practicing it is harder. And you know, we cats need constant reminding that someone cherishes us. even if it's on the friend level. And see, I just remembered, he was the first person to call and wish me happy birthday at like, 8am, from a foreign country, nonetheless. See, that is very cool. Why can't that be enough? ------------------ Leo Sun Cappy Moon Cancer Asc. IP: Logged |
Mama Mia Knowflake Posts: 117 From: Registered: Feb 2010
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posted August 30, 2006 01:47 PM
Well only you have the answer why its not enoough..And yes we do know things deep inside and some of Pisces ppl don't have to second guess it. Except where he is at with his emotions and the way of expressing them and things will be ok.. Hee,hee I think that you want him to express his undying love for you..LOL!!! Peace.. IP: Logged |
villy unregistered
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posted August 31, 2006 12:03 AM
"HOW COME HE DOESN'T EXPRESS MISSING PEOPLE?" Maybe he is very cool guy. I don’t miss people unless I have something more (like love/deep bond) for them. Even if I do, I may not express it unless it’s an open relation i.e both are aware and fine with having the relation. Other thing would be if I don’t know what other’s feelings are, I will hesitate coming out with mine unless it becomes absolutely necessary. Many times I am slow to respond back at the moment when something occurred. I might have something else in my mind or I may not be spontaneous (even for normal reply) that afterwards I would think about what someone said and what I should had replied back. Also many times I don’t say what I feel as there is an internal resistance – like though I may be attracted to someone, there are various other thoughts (due to whatever reason) which don’t want to go into the relation readily; & if I don’t resist myself, I feel that the relation might build up. That’s where I see the going with flow nature of Pisces. It might be sometimes like inner pull and push for me. “maybe it's just easier to not let your heart get attached to anyone” It might be other way round also, and for preventing this (getting attached to everyone) he might put more resistance. Yeah, once someone is a good friend I might open up. Again opening up would be of passive form, i.e. if you prod me to get something out of me, then only I would come out with it (provided I am comfortable). However there are lots of other private things in our mind that may never come out unless it’s an intimate relation. Pisces are shy, secretive of their feelings. I would never say that I care for someone unless its mutual love relationship, else its just internal. Coming out with that brings some kind of uneasy feeling. Like MM said, I too felt that you want him to express his love (not care) (Piscean romantic nature, would make me think in such a way even if you have just a normal friendship or something deep like love). ------------------ Pisces Sun, Ascendant-Sagi, Moon/Mercury/Venus in Aries, Mars - Cancer
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Lauren unregistered
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posted August 31, 2006 01:12 AM
Hi LeoLys, I meant him.. You can check whether it's retrograde or direct on astro.com.. quote: what does that mean if you have Venus retrograde?
It actually means much more than I thought, before meeting someone with Venus retro.. and realising I actually knew someone else as well.. It definitely feels 'different'.. very shut out in some ways.. quote: This person is likely to withdraw from close involvement in favour of establishing relationship between the various parts of himself. While he may doubt his capacity to enjoy personal contacts with others, he tends to turn within for emotional fulfilment (valuing his own company more in most cases... suggesting need for seclusion and solitude). Outwardly, he therefore may appear stand-offish and somewhat reclusive in temperament.
-Martin Schulman (not sure what site, it's saved on my comp)IP: Logged |
BlueTopaz124 Knowflake Posts: 207 From: Portland, OR, USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 31, 2006 01:21 AM
Just ask him sometime about relationships, you've known him 20 years, so it should be easy.My first thought is that he could be a lot more sensitive than he lets on and getting attached could open the floodgates and perhaps he doesn't want to go there. Just a thought. IP: Logged |
Jan_A unregistered
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posted August 31, 2006 03:57 AM
LeoLys, I think, there is nothing wrong with you. Don't worry! IP: Logged |
LeoLys unregistered
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posted August 31, 2006 09:57 AM
Wow Villy! You are right on. Dead right on, I think, about this guys' Piscean nature. Lots of internal push/pull. If he were allowed to really need me in the sense of a partnership, he would be tempted to let the floodgates open...and that would scare the pants off of him. ha. for various reasons, there's not much hope in a relationship beyond what is...atleast for now, so i am sure he feels it's his job to be restrained. and all that restranint falls by the wayside when he gets a few drinks in him. MM--I guess I do want to hear a profession of love. Not lust, not "leave everything and run away with me"...but more like a 'i love your soul'. nothing committal, i just need to know its real. and wouldnt that fall in nicely for him? i mean, no committments, no emotional games, none of that, but just to know that somebody just loves his soul, too? Don't we all want to know that on some level. sometimes i'd rather hear that, than somebody loves me because they have to be with me every day forevermore. He's not my twin soul, or even so compatible with what i would want in a mate, becasue i need a lot of mental intimacy, but there has always been that deeper understanding or deeper...thing when we see each other. you know, some people, i never look at thier eyes. this guy, i always do, and it's like a conversation is going on when there isnt. I should just stop second guessing him and needing this re-affirmation. Give him a nice big pool to swim in and accept a love that doesnt desire to constrain, but a love that encourages the path of exploration in this lifetime. does that make sense? ------------------ Leo Sun Cappy Moon Cancer Asc. IP: Logged |
Mama Mia Knowflake Posts: 117 From: Registered: Feb 2010
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posted August 31, 2006 09:59 AM
No one said that it was anything wrong with her..Ll: We are just trying to help you seen things from our eyes. Outside looking in type thing. And being Pisces I can understand where he maybe coming from and what I see.. Again if he has been your friend this long he has some admiration/care/concern for you ect even if he has not expressed it the way that you want him too. We are alot like Aquarius ppl when it comes to our friends.. IP: Logged |
LeoLys unregistered
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posted August 31, 2006 10:27 AM
no, i was saying there must be something wrong with me, needing the constant reminders/attention. some nice poster just said they don't see anything wrong wit it. thanks for all your kind words. you fish folks are really intriguing....and dont even get me stared on the aquarius experience! IP: Logged |
OzMeg222 Newflake Posts: 0 From: victoria, australia Registered: Aug 2009
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posted September 02, 2006 05:39 AM
Thats so weird I'm pisces sun, leo moon, gemini asc too! Your right about the acting, I'm not even sure who I really am theres so many facets to my personality that different people bring out. IP: Logged |
LeoLys unregistered
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posted September 05, 2006 10:02 AM
Thanks guys. Finally, this morning. affirmation. not a mushy declaration, but affirmation. Sometimes I just have to push it. Which I hate to do to a poor fishy man.IP: Logged |
villy unregistered
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posted September 06, 2006 08:21 AM
Yeah, you have to push for it in subtle way. The more you take the lead, the more he would become comfortable/assertive. I won’t come out with my feelings unless I see similar feelings in the other person (or else it becomes unbearable keeping it inside me – probably my Sag Asc would make it come out quickly). I need to be sure that the other person also has feelings for me.Good luck IP: Logged | |