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DreamerGrl
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posted September 09, 2006 06:04 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I feel so drawn to this guy and get mixed signals from him. I'm not sure who would feel these placements and aspects more in this synastry but it seems to validate my strong feelings towards him. Am I the only one experiencing the pull?
All the orbs here are fairly tight. If anyone could give me some insight I'd appreciate it.

my sun (8th)(aries) in his 8th house - his sun (9th/10th cusp)(taurus) in my 9th house
my moon (9th)(taurus) in his 10th house - his moon (10th)(gemini) in my 10th house
my mercury (8th)(aries) in his 9th house - his mercury (9th)(aries) in my 8th house
my venus (6th)(pisces) in his 7th house - his venus (10th)(taurus) in my 9th house
my mars (5th)(capricorn) in his 5th house - his mars (7th)(aquarius) in my 6th house
my jupiter (3rd/4th cusp)(sag) in his 4th house - his jupiter (6th)(aquarius) in my 6th house
my saturn (9th)(taurus) in his 10th house - his saturn (10th/11th cusp)(gemini) in my 10th house
my uranus (2nd)(libra) in his 2nd/3rd cusp house - his uranus (3rd)(libra) in my 2nd house
my neptune (3rd)(sag) in his 4th house - his neptune (4th)(sag) in my 3rd/4th cusp house
my pluto (1st)(virgo) in his 2nd house - his pluto (2nd)(libra) in my 1st/2nd cusp house
my n node (6th)(aquarius) in his 7th house - his n node (5th)(capricorn) in my 5th house
my chiron (8th)(aries) in his 8th house - his chiron (9th)(aries) in my 8th house
my vertex (5th)(capricorn) in his 5th/6th cusp house - his vertex (5th)(sag) in my 4th house
my juno (10th)(gemini) in his 10th/11th cusp house - his juno (5th)(sag) in my 4th house
my eros (8th)(aries) in his 9th house - his eros (11th)(cancer) in my 10th house
my psyche (10th)(gemini) in his 10th/11th cusp house - his psyche (4th)(scorpio) in my 3rd house

my sun/moon midpoint(8th)(taurus) conjunct his mercury (9th)(aries)
my sun/moon midpoint(8th)(taurus) sextile[/b] his eros (11th)(cancer)
my moon (9th)(taurus) conjunct his sun/moon midpoint (10th)(taurus) - larger orb 04 37
my pluto (1st)(virgo) trine his sun/moon midpoint (10th)(taurus)
my venus (6th)(pisces) square his sun/moon midpoint (10th)(taurus)
my venus/mars midpoint(5th)(aquarius) sextile his neptune (4th)(sag)
my venus/mars midpoint(5th)(aquarius) trine his pluto (2nd)(libra)
my venus/mars midpoint(5th)(aquarius) conjunct his jupiter (6th)(aquarius) - larger orb 05 37
my sun/chiron (8th)(aries) conjunct his venus/mars midpoint (8th)(aries)
my mars (5th)(capricorn) square his venus/mars midpoint (8th)(aries)
my mc (gemini) sextile his venus/mars midpoint (8th)(aries)
my uranus (2nd)(libra) opposite his venus/mars midpoint (8th)(aries)
my jupiter (3rd)(sag) trine his venus/mars midpoint (8th)(aries)
my eros/psyche midpoint (9th)(taurus) conjunct his venus/mc (10th)(taurus)
my mars (5th)(capricorn) trine his eros/psyche midpoint (1st)(virgo)
my asc (virgo) conjunct his eros/psyche midpoint (1st)(virgo)

my moon (9th)(taurus) conjunct his venus (10th)(taurus)
my saturn (9th)(taurus) conjunct his venus (10th)/mc (taurus)
my saturn (9th)(taurus) conjunct his sun(9th) (taurus) - larger orb 05 57
my mc (gemini) conjunct his moon (10th)(gemini) (cross aspect)
my mars (5th)(capricorn) conjunct his n node (5th)(capricorn)
my venus (6th)(pisces) conjunct his mars (7th)(aquarius)
my n node (6th)(aquarius) conjunct his mars (7th)(aquarius)
my jupiter (3rd/4thcusp)/ic (sag) conjunct his neptune (4th)(sag)
my mercury/eros (8th)(aries) conjunct his mercury (9th)(aries)
my eros (8th)(aries) conjunct his chiron (9th)(aries) - larger orb 05 42
my psyche/juno (10th)(gemini) conjunct his saturn (10th)(gemini)

my jupiter (3rd/4thcusp)/ic (sag) opposite his moon (10th)(gemini)
my mc (gemini) opposite his neptune (4th)(sag)
my eros (8th)(aries) opposite his uranus (3rd)(libra)
my saturn (9th)(taurus) opposite his psyche (4th)(scorpio)
my psyche/juno (10th)(gemini) opposite his juno (5th)(sag)

my mars/vertex (5th)(capricorn) trine his sun(9th)/venus(10th)/mc (taurus)
my sun/chiron (8th)(aries) trine his neptune (4th)(sag)
my asc (virgo) trine his n node (5th)(capricorn)
my venus (6th)(pisces) trine his eros (11th)(cancer)
my psyche/juno (10th)(gemini) trine his uranus (3rd)(libra)

my mercury/eros (8th)(aries) sextile his mars (7th)(aquarius)
my neptune (3rd)(sag) sextile his pluto (2nd)(libra)
my psyche/juno (10th)(gemini) sextile his chiron (9th)(aries)
my psyche/juno (10th)(gemini) sextile his asc (leo)
my n node (6th)(aquarius) sextile his juno (5th)(sag)

my asc (libra) square his neptune (4th)(sag)
my asc (libra) square his moon (10th)(gemini)
my moon (9th)(taurus) square his asc (leo)
my sun/chiron (8th)(aries) square his n node (5th)(capricorn)
my uranus(2nd)(libra) square his n node (5th)(capricorn)
my pluto (1st)(virgo) square his vertex (5th)(sag)
my vertex (5th)(capricorn) square his chiron (9th)(aries)
my vertex (5th)(capricorn) square his uranus (3rd)(libra)
my pluto (1st)(virgo) square his eros (11th)(cancer) - larger orb 04 31

grand kite
my sun/chiron (8th)(aries) apex sextile his moon (10th)(gemini) and his jupiter (6th)(aquarius)
and opposite my uranus (2nd)(libra)
grand trines
(my s node (12th)(leo) trine my mercury/eros (8th)(aries)) trine his vertex (5th)(sag)
my n node (6th)(aquarius) trine (his saturn (10th)(gemini) trine his uranus (3rd)(libra))
my uranus (2nd)(libra) trine (his jupiter (6th)(aquarius) trine his moon (10th)(gemini))
t-squares
his venus (10th)(taurus) apex square (my s node (12th)(leo) opposite his mars (7th)(aquarius))
his venus (10th)(taurus) apex square (my n node (6th)(aquarius) opposite his asc (leo))
my moon/saturn (9th)(taurus) apex square (my n node (6th)(aquarius) opposite his asc (leo))
he completes my grand cross
(his s node opposite my mars/vertex) square (my sun/chiron opposite my uranus)

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jkxx
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posted September 09, 2006 06:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Looks like you're really into this guy. Can you provide the birth times for the two of you? (Or a synastry and a composite chart for people to look at)

From the text there's some 8th house planets in the synastry - that creates an intense pull, at least for the person whose 8th house is activated, if my understanding of synastry is correct.

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DreamerGrl
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posted September 09, 2006 06:43 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Synastry

Composite

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DreamerGrl
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posted September 10, 2006 02:20 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To add something more... me and this person have become very close. We have been spending alot of time together over the past few weeks. Both of us are going through big changes in our lives right now and help console each other. He just had a heartbreak and I'm starting into a divorce that had been emotionally nonexistent for 5 years. We get into deep conversations about our lives and as much as we both value our friendship I seem to be getting more and more drawn to him emotionally but think he is not feeling the same pull in that direction. I'm too afraid to loose the friendship if I push for something more but it does hurt to repress the emotions that come over me. I've tried analyzing the chart to get some insight as to why I am so drawn to him but being somewhat a novice it gets a bit confusing to interpret the aspects. Could someone please help me with understanding some of these aspects and positions between us?

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jkxx
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posted September 10, 2006 03:04 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The charts both look pretty good, you have some basic moon-venus, venus-mars, and sun-mars aspects. These are good for relating physically and emotionally.

There are a couple of warnings here though. There are moon-saturn and venus-saturn conjunctions cropping up in the synastry and composite. Saturn gives stability and encourages a relationship to go long-term, but it will shortcircuit anything that's meant to be lighter than that - and you'll have more trouble with these aspects being the fire sign.

There's also a Venus-Uranus opposition in the composite chart - I can't honestly say this is in any way good if you want your relationship to last more than a month after it takes off. The saturn aspects will help offset this one, but its still a wildcard. Take your time if you can and don't tell him too much just yet, until you get more clues from him.

Because there's plenty of personal planet interaspects in the synastry, he's surely feeling at least some of the same things that you are. Since he's a taurus he'll take a bit longer to open up than you'd like even if he's interested, so give him some time before you make up your mind.

Hope this helps,
-jk

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starflower
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posted September 10, 2006 04:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for starflower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi there!

I'm a novice too and just learning about synastry (didnt even start on composite yet!). I find this site really helpful in interpreting the personal planets:
http://www.astrology-numerology.com/synastryaspects.html

I would say that this relationship may have been given to you both in order for you to learn something deepere about yourselves (lots of Saturn - teaching lessons, keeping it real, gives longevity to a tie but can be a heavy and serious energy)

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DreamerGrl
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posted September 10, 2006 01:31 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for your responses.
I have always felt my moon-saturn conjunction. Some things make a little bit more sense now thinking about his own moon-saturn conjunction. Does his venus sitting on top of my moon-saturn help soften mine or does it create more tension on his side? Also you said fire sign? my moon/saturn and his venus are taurus and his moon/saturn are gemini along with composite. Do you think that we are also getting effected by the saturn/moon-mars square in the synastry even though the orb is 7 33 or possibly softened because of the saturn/moon-mars trine in composite? I've also wondered about the saturn/moon-neptune opposition in composite but thought the moon trine pluto/n node/mars and venus/neptune trine in composite may help support that.

Well that venus-uranus worried me a bit too but thought it may add some excitement since I seem to get bored soon after I start relationships. His clues are whats soo difficult... everytime he makes a step forward he suddenly makes 2 back, almost like he tries to confuse me. Where do you think I'm getting this unsettling draw towards him though? I'd really like to just keep it "friendly" because god knows we both could really benefit from the friendship right now but damn that inner stirring for more.

star-
i totally agree about we are to learn something deep out of this but I have since pulled myself back because of the fear of getting too emotionally involved. I know that I should find the strength to stick in there and learn what I'm supposed to be learning from this but it's all so overwhelming right now. I know he's left confused right now too because I just kinda cut it all off unexpectedly.

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wilsontc
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posted September 10, 2006 08:41 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
dreamer,

You said:

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He just had a heartbreak and I'm starting into a divorce that had been emotionally nonexistent for 5 years.

Looking at the energies between you, you have Sun and Moon in contact with each other, indicating there is a "connection" between you. As has been mentioned, there are some strong connections between the personal planets (Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, and Mars), indicating strong personal connections. There are 6 challenging connections and 4 easy connections. The challenging connections may be exciting for the short-term, but over the longer term these may become issues of some sort. The most challenging issue in "relating" may be that you have 3 personal connections to his Venus (relationships) and he has only one connection to your Venus. This may cause the sense of "mixed signals" that you get from him because you don't feel his relationship energy that strongly.

Looking at the other planets, your Saturn (duty, also restriction, structure) squares (energy needs to be combined with) his Mars (being, also action, anger), indicating you may stop his actions in some way, which may make him angry. Also, the only other connection you have to his Venus is your Saturn conjuncting his Venus, indicating he may see you as restricting the relationship in some way. Saturn is ALSO about structuring, so you might want to set a goal with him of using Saturn in a more "structuring" way somehow.

Your Mars (being), also each conjunct the other's North node (future goals), which could be the reason why you each feel you have something to gain from the other. Be careful your actions together do not turn into anger of some kind.

Finally, since you are BOTH coming out of VERY difficult circumstances, be careful about having a relationship "on the rebound". Take it slowly, work together to resolve difficulties, and wait for a time when you are BOTH emotionally "back on your feet". That way, no matter what happens, this will be a very rewarding experience for you both!

Nodally,

Tim

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DreamerGrl
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posted September 12, 2006 02:37 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Tim for your time and response.
That darn Saturn of mine seems to get in the way all the time especially hovering over my moon. I do agree, there is much for each of us to resolve in our own personal lives before embarking onto another journey. That's what I keep saying in my head over and over "keep it light". There is much to learn from this I'm sure. I know the "future goals" are very enticing to us both right now but like you say... "Take it slowly" is sure to be the best for us both.
Thank you again
dreamer

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jkxx
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posted September 12, 2006 02:52 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
DreamerGrl,

looks like Tim gave you the overall interp on the chart. Just wanted to add that if you're looking for something more lasting, Saturn can actually be your friend here, as long as neither person decides to just give up during a difficult moment. Either way,
good luck!

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DreamerGrl
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posted September 12, 2006 09:05 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
jkxx-
Funny you should say that... I had. But he didn't. After a talk seems like we're back on track where we should be now. Friends. Giving up always seems like the easy route... at first.
Thank you
dreamer

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Yang
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posted September 12, 2006 09:50 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome

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lotusheartone
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posted September 12, 2006 10:51 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Re-Member..we are here to overcome our charts..

G U R U

Mastership!

a chart is a map..with guidelines..follow your

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Inner depths
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posted September 12, 2006 02:35 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OMG ....somebody who born close to when I was born - April 3, 1971 here. I haven't looked at the charts in detail. I'll see what I can pick up looking at the charts cause our planets are very close to each other.

How do you find the venus square to jupiter and neptune? Do you find Saturn square to Aqua node to be a challenge?

ID

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DreamerGrl
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posted September 13, 2006 01:33 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ID-
I think that I definitely feel neptune more. I'm frequently let down because I tend to idealize people. It seems to take me awhile to see the big picture and then jupiter gets in the way with being hardheaded. I used to have a really hard time with sun square mars especially as a child. Being angry and defensive is never very attractive. Don't get me wrong... it's still always my knee jerk way of reaction but have since learned other ways to calm it down... most of the time.
Don't even get me started with my saturn. I often feel that I've got the worst timing and life will never be smooth sailing, but on the other hand I do enjoy challenges.
If yours is anything like mine you must have alot of challenges too. I only have, in close aspect, 3 each of sextiles and trines but 7 squares and 5 oppositions and out of the 3 conjunctions 2 are pretty challenging. But I am more aware everyday and always trying to grow.

dreamer

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