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Topic: Tragic Fate
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Peri
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posted September 29, 2006 06:43 AM
  
Here is the birth details of a woman who seems to permanently live in hell, all her family died and she wonders now of there’s any reason for her to live further…Larisa 4 June 1975 11:45 am St. Petersburg, Russia (now lives in Daugavpils, Latvia) dad died when she was 9 mom died when she was 18 husband: born 12 June 1965 died 27 August 1998 1 son: born 23 March 1996 died 5 February 2002 2 son: born 29 November 2001 died 15 September 2006 Now she is all alone. I haven’t looked into her chart attentively yet but what stood out to me first is Algol conjunct her natal MC (her relocation MC is 4 degrees apart from Algol and yet it still works!) I wonder what it takes to earn such a heavy karma…..  Courage and Light to her 
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mysticaldream
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posted September 29, 2006 08:47 AM
I'll take more time to look at it later (off to work), but I ran the chart and expected to see some anaretic degrees and was surprised not to. (NN is at 0 degrees, though).
I ran the asteroid Karma, also.......thinking that would tell something. Maybe we could post the chart and Tim or someone really knowledgeable could look at it.  IP: Logged |
OzMeg222
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posted September 29, 2006 08:58 AM
My heart breaks for that poor woman, she's only 3 years older than me. I think what got me the most was the deaths of her children. As a mother of 2 its my worst nightmare and just hearing about someone elses tragedy makes my stomach tight and my heart ache.Sending her mental love and strength. IP: Logged |
Scorpio3x
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posted September 29, 2006 11:41 AM
I know this will stir controversey, but I find it extremely odd that so many people died in her family. especially the children. Did they die all together or seperately, one by one? what did the children die of? what did the husband die of? Is it possible that she could actually be responsible in any way? How could so many people in one family die of natural causes at such early ages? I have seen a few true-crime documentaries on tv and in cases like this, the sole survivor had something to do with it.IP: Logged |
Mirandee
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posted September 29, 2006 11:51 AM
Being admittedly astologically illiterate I cannot address that part of your post, Peri but this is just so tragic and I can easily understand why this woman feels as she does. All I can do is send much healing and loving light her way and pray for her. So very, very sad. IP: Logged |
jenfullmoon
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Registered: Jun 2009
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posted September 29, 2006 02:22 PM
I haven't had quite that many disasters happen to me YET...but I always wonder if I was some kind of serial killer in a previous life to attract the amount of crap/bad things that I do. This chick reminds me of a book called "Nothing To Fall Back On," by Betsy Carter. Her husband was gay, she lost her job, she had horrible accidents, home destroyed...disaster after disaster happened to this chick. I actually made a list of her disasters to keep in my Palm to remind myself that "at least I'm not THAT bad yet!" I have Pluto in the 12th and a T-square with Saturn/Moon/Venus and have Algol conjunct Venus (note to self: NEVER DATE AGAIN, you are doomed), sun conjunct Chiron...whee. IP: Logged |
Kamilla
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posted September 29, 2006 03:19 PM
Oh, PeriThis is so sad  This poor girl. My heart goes out her. I can not even imagine how a person can survive all that Love and light to her Do you think may be Moon/Mars conjunction (very tight orb too) in 8th House in opposition to Pluto could indicate the loss of family? IP: Logged |
Shining Ray
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posted September 29, 2006 04:08 PM
In looking at her chart she has Jupiter, and a Moon/mars Conjunction in the 8th house Aries which opposes Pluto. The Moon/Mars also squares Saturn in Cancer/family. Jupiter in the 8th rules over the 4th house and is square to Saturn in Cancer.Harsh aspects which come back to cancer/4th house which represents the family. Also her relationship/Libra. These are the aspects I see which possibly could be involved in this poor Lady's tragedy. I send her my prayers this is a very sad story I would be devastated if this happened to me. Shining Ray IP: Logged |
Belage
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Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 29, 2006 11:25 PM
This is really tragic. In addition to the moon mars conjunction that's opposing Pluto in Libra and also squaring Saturn in Cancer/family, (that's already bad enough) as if this was not enough, she has Venus in Cancer squaring Uranus in Libra and squaring Chiron in Aries. That's a double square to Venus. So, loved ones leave in the most unexpected way. She has Jupiter in Aries squaring Saturn in Cancer. Always, always a difficult aspect to deal with. It's hard to keep faith when events seem to conspire against you. I think people have committed suicide for less. I am amazed at the resilience of this person. I will keep her in my prayers. IP: Logged |
Shining Ray
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posted September 30, 2006 12:53 AM
Following on from the list and from what Belage has seen in her birth chart, I have written all the aspects down separately so we can see the aspects which could have contributed to this lady's tragedy.Moon In Aries 8th
Moon Conjunct Mars
Moon Square Saturn/Cancer
Moon Opposed Pluto/Libra Venus in Cancer Square Uranus/Libra
Uranus in Libra
Venus/Cancer square Chiron Mars in Aries 8th
Mars Square Saturn/Cancer
Mars opposed Pluto/Libra Jupiter in Aries 8th
Jupiter square Saturn/Cancer
Jupiter rules over 4th/7th Uranus Retrograde Libra Neptune Retrograde in the 4th/square Asc/ruler of 7th. Pluto Retrograde Libra I.C Scorpio P.S There might be more that I have missed but there are aleady a lot of heavy placements and aspects all at work here. I have also added factors which a lot of us have in our charts i.e Pluto Retrograde in Libra but in looking at her whole chart and her stellium in the 8th receiving heavy aspects adding these factors I think would contribute to her loss. Also have you seen the "EXACT" Square of her Jupiter in Aries 8th Square Saturn in Cancer/Family. Very strong energy. Shining Ray
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From: The Strand
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posted September 30, 2006 02:02 AM
What I find interesting is how her NN is conj with IC and in 4th house. So her IC is sco, which might indicate some sort of death and regeration issues with her family. Then her MC is (unfortunately) conj Algol as was put but Algol opposes her past. So maybe with MC Tau she can overcome this with "stubborness" to reach stability and overcome and harness Algol somehow. She must do this with creating a familial environment as her NN conj IC/4th house. SN indicates that she must come from a "disaster" with it conj widely with Algol. Maybe females will help her somehow - they will be compassionate, motherly and friendly - venus in cancer in 11th and conj NN. IP: Logged |
Shining Ray
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posted September 30, 2006 02:57 AM
I have Algol Conjunct my Taurus M.C and Neptune in the 4th with a Scorpio I.C. My NN/SN Squares Neptune. I lost my father when I was 18 yrs old. So I have a similar placement to this lady.I have Saturn Retrograde in the first opposes Sun in Pisces 7th which indicates the loss for me. But to lose my whole family would be unbearable. Shining Ray IP: Logged |
Shining Ray
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posted September 30, 2006 03:10 AM
When I have time later I will have a go at looking at her purpose/lessons this lifetime. Where she needs to move forward for the future. With Saturn being in Cancer there are Karmic issues around the family and receiving squares from Moon/Mars and Jupiter in the 8th all heavy squares. And the "exact" Jupiter in 8th/Saturn/Cancer aspect. Lots of Karma with family and 8th house issues.Her Sun in the 10th opposed Retrograde Neptune in the 4th/I.C Scorpio. Sun rules over the 12th house/critical illness/loss. This must represent the loss of her father. She has a very heavy Moon in Aries Conjunct Mars lots of angry feelings which are possibly blocked/denied or controlled with the square to Saturn, but very powerful emotions indeed with the opposition to Pluto. This Moon must also represent the loss of her Mother Moon in 8th square Saturn/opposed Pluto 'R'. The more you delve in to this chart the deeper it goes. Jupiter being in the 8th is multiplying everything it touches. Shining Ray
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lalalinda
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From: nevada
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 30, 2006 10:14 AM
poor lady I have a friend who something similar happened to all within a few years.
Both parents and her only son died.
Husband left in the middle of it all.
She has Venus Rx, heavy Pluto natal aspects and transits. I've often wondered what kind of karmic debts she has chosen to pay off in this lifetime.
She is a good person with strong morals. IP: Logged |
Kamilla
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posted September 30, 2006 10:24 AM
But what about mystic rectangle in her chart? You don't see it very often and from what I read it is a very positive sign. Makes for an easy energy flow and harmonious personality.On the other hand, may be it is something that holds her together still.......... IP: Logged |
thedividedsky
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posted September 30, 2006 11:56 AM
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posted September 30, 2006 06:07 PM
Re mystic triangle - I think normally I would consider the 7 deg between pluto and sun to large for a trine but maybe in this case it might be paid. I think that her ego (sun) is able to cope well from the regeneration, death etc (pluto). Maybe she was able to somehow cope with the death of her children (sun trine moon). The deaths (pluto) that obviously happened to her husband and mother probably caused the most upset (mars and moon in 8th opp pluto in 2nd - the regeneration of the physical field so to speak). If she is able to over come this with her strength and an ability to regenerate herself (sun trine pluto), then she should also be ok. However, she must overcome/understand (neptune sextile pluto) the confusion (neptune) how these deaths that have happened. Maybe there is confusion in particular about the children (nep opp sun) and maybe the way to unlock the issues there is to see what she can find about the situation concerning her husband and children (moon, mars trine nep). IP: Logged |
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