posted September 30, 2006 11:42 AM            

Its in my second house (3rd tho going by some charts) what does that mean? I know the second house is finances, yada yada, and I'm experiencing a few problems (or realisations rather) along those lines but nothing major.

I read somewhere that the saturn return is a nasty time, but does it just affect the house its in?

posted September 30, 2006 02:53 PM              

You'll need to look at the degree your Saturn is at. You will feel it the most when it's w/in about 4* or so of your natal Saturn (4* before and after your exact conjunction) but you will still feel it nevertheless when it is in the same decan that your degree of Saturn happens to be in.

You said: "Its in my second house (3rd tho going by some charts) what does that mean?"
This means that, like in my chart, your Saturn is at a certain degree and that your 3rd house starts closly after. But you still have Saturn in the 2nd house. When a planet so closly sits next to a house cusp some people believe that there is a dual focus of that planet (I.E. 2nd house finances/values & 3rd house thinking/speaking)

My Saturn return being at 14*Leo has technically passed. With it I've had a good time! It does not have to be nasty at all. Things are what You make of them! I have paid off almost all my credit debt but have also had a few unexpected things come up where i've needed more $, and that's been no problem. I also have found that things I used to put value into I no longer do. My values have changed! This is all 2nd house stuff.

They also say that when Saturn is transiting through one's 3rd house, and I think this can be true for us because of the dual focus Saturn return thing, that one needs to be mindful of one's thoughts or one may feel restricted and therefore depressed.

You said: "but does it just affect the house its in?" You need to look at what aspects your Saturn makes with other planets to see what other focuses (houses) are involved.

Saturn isn't so bad! On the negative side he Restricts, but on the positive he Restructures and Disiplines! Saturn can set up a great earthy foundation for awesome things to come. How do you want to use this energy?

posted September 30, 2006 07:25 PM            

My saturn conjuncts my moon with orb of 3 deg.

Not sure what that means.

posted October 01, 2006 07:06 AM            

So many of the things that I used to value very highly and put a lot of energy into that are completely unrelated to money have changed for me this year as well.

I think the Saturn Return gives you the "lesson" that is needed around the time when Saturn is passing your natal degree, but throughout the entire Saturn Return, I think you then have the opportunity to apply the things you have learned.

posted October 01, 2006 08:41 AM              

Saturn is about to enter my Second House and I have to say that its First House transit was hard at times but definitely constructive. For one thing, I got very comfortable with not trying to impress anyone. It's like - this is who I am, if you like it, great! If not - oh, well... So I think Saturn transit through Second House can be quite productive.

posted October 01, 2006 11:32 AM              

Generally--Saturn direct begins the process of re-definition. At the retrograde, we have doubts, may rethink the definition, etc. Then when it goes direct again, the re-definition becomes permanent...........until the next time transiting Saturn reaches this point, at which time the prcess repeats.

Saturn is all about maturation--about growing up, taking responsibility for our own lives. The only other responsibility, mandated by LIFE, is that we are responsible for our minor children until they are grown.

posted October 02, 2006 12:30 PM              

To love means to value. Do you value things because they really support and promote your life, or because someone told you that you should value, or should have, them?

posted October 02, 2006 02:31 PM              

Thank you for the great insight . My Natal Mars is in 24 degrees Leo which means I will go through TSaturn/NMars conjunction twice I can't recall this transit's effects from previous years but I'll never forget the way Saturn/Mars conjunction manifested in my synastry with my ex. During our divorce he turned incredibly mean and cruel although generally it's very much unlike him. I felt like "Who IS that person?"